AFRICAN-AMERICAN CONSUMERS ARE MORE RELEVANT THAN EVER

[bigDeeOT]

blacks will work just as hard as a foreigner just to cop a belt or some stupid shyt like that.

No they you won't. Work hard in what sense? Working hard to me means holding down a steady job or going through years and years of education. You can't say any of that applies to black people.

 

[bigDeeOT]

thing about group economics is blacks were tricked into believing they could be perceived as true american citizens.

Why in god's name would ANYONE look at the state of black america and perceive blacks as true american citizens? Tell me exactly what are blacks even TRYING to do to represent themselves as a true american?

See the problem is blacks already have this mentality that they're not wanted in this country, so they tear down their communities and say screw the world. And that in turn, makes people look down on blacks so it reiterates what the black man thought in the first place.

 

[bigDeeOT]

it's not laziness that has us all fukked up, it's a complete lack of structure.

It absolutely is laziness and you can't tell me it isn't when you look at what black people value in this culture today. Blacks are anti-intellectual. And its not just the blacks in the ghetto. Many black people on here are very afraid to debate me because they are afraid of engaging in an intelligent discussion. Instead they will use the kind of tactics anyone would use when they have lost an argument; ad-hominen attacks, try to slander my name, say I'm not really black, etc.

The whole philosophy of blaming everything on whitey is the absolute epitome of laziness.

The only thing I can agree with is that blacks don't stick together, but only in the sense of the family. The fact that the black family is torn in pieces is pretty much one of the root causes of everything wrong with the black community. Its hard for boys to grow up learning the value of having a good work ethic when they don't have a father figure around to teach it to em.

 

[marcuz]

Why in god's name would ANYONE look at the state of black america and perceive blacks as true american citizens? Tell me exactly what are blacks even TRYING to do to represent themselves as a true american?

See the problem is blacks already have this mentality that they're not wanted in this country, so they tear down their communities and say screw the world. And that in turn, makes people look down on blacks so it reiterates what the black man thought in the first place.

okay, i'll agree with you, but if thats the case, why do we kill each other and do our best to assimilate within their culture and communities?

as for your question, we join their wars, we move into their neighborhoods, we procreate with their women, we BELIEVE we are american; instead of treating ourselves as if we're foreigners on hostile land.

 

[marcuz]

It absolutely is laziness and you can't tell me it isn't when you look at what black people value in this culture today.

so the slaves and true hard workers of this nation just inherently became lazy all of a sudden?

i'll respond to the rest later

 

[bigDeeOT]

so the slaves and true hard workers of this nation just inherently became lazy all of a sudden?

i'll respond to the rest later

I've always heard that the slaves would actually work slow just to spite the master. But I don't want to debate that point.

The point is, if you've got a gun to your head, of course you're going to work.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

Let me tell you what I disagree with.

I just don't think we should focus our priorities on circulating money in the black community. That may be a good thing, but I think doing so at the moment would hinder us from focusing on what should be our number one priority. We should be focusing on building a culture that appreciates the value in having a good work ethic. Right now, black culture places no emphasis whatsoever in working hard, getting an education, or really anything of value. When I think of what values we have within the black community, I can't think of a single thing. If anyone disagrees with me please provide an example of what values we have.

I do like how he points out how we don't own anything in this country. But I don't like the fact that he essentially says the reason why we don't own anything is strictly due to other races playing group economics. Supposedly the reason why blacks are poor is because everyone else is smart enough to keep their money within their own community but blacks give it all away to others outside the community.

I think group economics does help other races, like Vietnamese or jews or w/e. So I'm not gonna argue against that since I do respect that fact. But what Claude Anderson does not understand is that group economics is NOT the primary cause of why other races are so successful.

Asians and Indians are successful because of their work ethic. But Claude Anderson doesn't want to admit that that's the primary reason for their success. And you know why? Because blaming the shortcomings of black america on "group economics" alleviates the burden of accountability for our degenerate culture. He doesn't want to admit black people are the problem. He blames black people only in the sense that we should have been practicing group economics like everyone else. But that's just a roundabout way of blaming it on whitey. Because if it wasn't for whitey and other races playing group economics, we'd be rich too, according to him.

Degenerate culture? Races that are on top of the world dont have degenerate culture? I agree on needing work ethic By work ethic i mean a group having the desire to master various skills to a point they can be offered to the community for a good price with high quality.

Group economics has helped every group of people on the planet that is flourishing even when the culture has been completely Degenerate. The people that came to this nation were criminals, friend. Degenerates, that made the nation into an empire. Without group economics, fewer millionares are made within the community which keeps businesses in the community from expanding their operation into buying more means of production. Europeans for example have a 500 year head start on us so the fruits of their labor and keeping their money within their group has paid off. The resources for production are in their hands *wood, steel, gold, etc* Other groups that want to own things like shipyards/manufacturing plants, have to have backing from a foreign nation and many immigrants that come into America have exactly that.so its not the rags to riches story you make it seem like..

Going to school and working hard for people outside of your community is not enough. Alot of people with businesses are uneducated, especially in asian/indian communities. Giving your money to your local business allows them to hire more people and better talent which allows the to open more stores and together we are able to pool money into healing wounds in our neighborhoods and turn them into communities, friend.

 

[marcuz]

I've always heard that the slaves would actually work slow just to spite the master. But I don't want to debate that point.

The point is, if you've got a gun to your head, of course you're going to work.

so now we were always lazy blacks who made for shytty slaves what are you saying?

 

[bigDeeOT]

okay, i'll agree with you, but if thats the case, why do we kill each other and do our best to assimilate within their culture and communities?.

I'm not sure what you mean exactly but black people certainly don't try to assimilate within other communities.

as for your question, we join their wars, we move into their neighborhoods, we procreate with their women, we BELIEVE we are american; instead of treating ourselves as if we're foreigners on hostile land.

I don't buy it. Of course blacks procreate with thick white women because blacks are over sexualized and we glorify it with all the videos and reality shows of women twerking their ass.
We move into their neighborhoods only when its cheap.

To me, being an american means working your ass off to achieve success. That's the story of all the foreigners that come here. And america is full of foreigners.

 

[marcuz]

It absolutely is laziness and you can't tell me it isn't when you look at what black people value in this culture today. Blacks are anti-intellectual. And its not just the blacks in the ghetto. Many black people on here are very afraid to debate me because they are afraid of engaging in an intelligent discussion. Instead they will use the kind of tactics anyone would use when they have lost an argument; ad-hominen attacks, try to slander my name, say I'm not really black, etc.

The whole philosophy of blaming everything on whitey is the absolute epitome of laziness.

The only thing I can agree with is that blacks don't stick together, but only in the sense of the family. The fact that the black family is torn in pieces is pretty much one of the root causes of everything wrong with the black community. Its hard for boys to grow up learning the value of having a good work ethic when they don't have a father figure around to teach it to em.

you didn't bring up one thing that's the cause of black americans themselves. i challenge you to a intelligent debate to where you can somehow place 100% blame on black americans.

 

[bigDeeOT]

so now we were always lazy blacks who made for shytty slaves what are you saying?

I don't think either one of us can testify to the quality or efficacy of the slaves back then. It sounds like you're trying to say black slaves back then were really good workers and weren't lazy. How do you know this?

 

[Mr. Somebody]

Racism also has a bigger impact on these issues then people want to admit. Why are black immigration numbers so low?

 

[bigDeeOT]

you didn't bring up one thing that's the cause of black americans themselves. i challenge you to a intelligent debate to where you can somehow place 100% blame on black americans.

First off I never said its 100% on black americans, thats silly. I think the state of black america is like 80% black people fault, 20% institutionalized racism and legacy of slavery/jim crow. The problem is black people want to focus on that 20% and ignore the other 80%. And the ironic thing is, if blacks improved on bettering themselves then a lot of that institutionalized racism would decrease in magnitude.

 

[marcuz]

I'm not sure what you mean exactly but black people certainly don't try to assimilate within other communities.

to the black people that can afford it, they don't choose to live around other blacks.

I don't buy it. Of course blacks procreate with thick white women because blacks are over sexualized and we glorify it with all the videos and reality shows of women twerking their ass.
We move into their neighborhoods only when its cheap.

breh what world are you living in. blacks have shrived to move into white communities since the civil rights movement. show me where all these middle class blacks have settled within the black community.

To me, being an american means working your ass off to achieve success. That's the story of all the foreigners that come here. And america is full of foreigners.

kumbuya nonsense. if you can't come to terms with black men being vilified in america, i cant entertain the convo.

 

[bigDeeOT]

Degenerate culture? Races that are on top of the world dont have degenerate culture?

Black people try and downplay problems within the black community by saying these are the same problems you see in any community.

That's wrong for a couple of reasons.

1. The magnitude of the degenerate culture within the black community is much higher than in any other community and its not even close. No other community has 70% out of wedlock births, and no other community accounts for 50% of all murder victims in the country.
2. Lets say if this degenerate culture only applies to like 10-20% of the black community. It actually applies to more like 95% of the black community and you know why? Because NO black person will EVER denounce the actions of these thugs and this degenerate culture. I can't think not one single black leader who can criticize the black community without coming across as a racist, sell out, or "uncle tom."

So whenever asian people look at blacks and make stereotypes about them, you CANNOT blame them. You can't say "oh well that only applies to 5% of blacks, we're not all like that." No, you can't say a damn thing if you don't ever publicly denounce the actions of these thugs. You are essentially supporting black degenerate culture by your acquiescence. Actually this goes beyond acquiescence. Black people go out of their way to let others know what it means to be black with all this bafoonery you see in hip hop music videos and reality tv shows.