Afram DOS is the goat musically

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If you are going to discuss Delta Blues then Memphis Minnie has to be considered one of the best of all time. Even some of the bluesmen considered her the best. Listen to the guitar work in this song. This is from almost 100 years ago.



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don't forget rosetta tharpe

Sister Rosetta Tharpe (March 20, 1915 – October 9, 1973) was an American singer, songwriter, guitarist, and recording artist. She attained popularity in the 1930s and 1940s with her gospel recordings, characterized by a unique mixture of spiritual lyrics and rhythmic accompaniment that was a precursor of rock and roll. She was the first great recording star of gospel music and among the first gospel musicians to appeal to rhythm-and-blues and rock-and-roll audiences, later being referred to as "the original soul sister" and "the Godmother of rock and roll".[1][3][4][5][6] She influenced early rock-and-roll musicians, including Little Richard, Johnny Cash, Carl Perkins, Chuck Berry, Elvis Presley and Jerry Lee Lewis.[7][8][9]

Musically, Tharpe's unique guitar style blended melody-driven urban blues with traditional folk arrangements and incorporated a pulsating swing sound that is one of the first clear precursors of rock and roll.[2][41]

Little Richard referred to the stomping, shouting, gospel music performer as his favorite singer when he was a child. In 1947, she heard Richard sing before her concert at the Macon City Auditorium and later invited him on stage to sing with her; it was Richard's first public performance outside of the church. Following the show, she paid him for his performance, which inspired him to become a performer.[42] When Johnny Cash gave his induction speech at the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame, he referred to Tharpe as his favorite singer when he was a child. His daughter Rosanne Cash stated in an interview with Larry King that Tharpe was her father's favorite singer. Tharpe began recording with electric guitar in the 1940s, with "That's All", which has been cited as an influence on Chuck Berry and Elvis Presley.[2] Other musicians, including Aretha Franklin, Jerry Lee Lewis,[8] and Isaac Hayes, have identified her singing, guitar playing, and showmanship as an important influence on them. She was held in particularly high esteem by UK jazz/blues singer George Melly. Tina Turner credits Tharpe, along with Mahalia Jackson, as an early musical influence. Such diverse performers as Meat Loaf, Neil Sedaka and Karen Carpenter have attested to the influence of Tharpe in the rhythmic energy she emanated in her performances (Carpenter's drum fills are especially reminiscent of Tharpe's "Chorlton Chug").[43] Later artists, such as Sean Michel, have credited her influence with the performance of gospel songs in more secular venues.







 

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The guitar is OUR instrument

the first guitar hero in american music, pre-electric guitar

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Johnson's early recordings are the first guitar recordings that display a single-note soloing style with string bending and vibrato. Johnson pioneered this style of guitar playing on records, and his influence is obvious in the playing of Django Reinhardt, T-Bone Walker and virtually all electric blues guitarists.

One of Elvis Presley's earliest recordings was a version of Johnson's blues ballad "Tomorrow Night", written by Sam Coslow and Will Grosz. Presley's vocal phrasing mimics Johnson's, and many of Presley's signature vibrato and baritone sounds can be heard in development. "Tomorrow Night" was also recorded by LaVern Baker and (in 1957) by Jerry Lee Lewis.

In the liner notes for the album Biograph, Bob Dylan described his encounters with Johnson in New York City. "I was lucky to meet Lonnie Johnson at the same club I was working and I must say he greatly influenced me. You can hear it in that first record. I mean Corrina, Corrina...that's pretty much Lonnie Johnson. I used to watch him every chance I got and sometimes he'd let me play with him. I think he and Tampa Red and of course Scrapper Blackwell, that's my favorite style of guitar playing."[23] In his autobiography, Chronicles, Vol. 1, Dylan wrote about the performing method he learned from Robert Johnson and remarked that Robert Johnson had learned a lot from Lonnie Johnson. Some of Robert Johnson's songs are seen as new versions of songs recorded by Lonnie Johnson.

docu on him in the works

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say brehs, I made a playlist for work the other day and I basically had a lot of 70s soul and r&b like Stevie, Bill Withers, Earth Wind and Fire etc and I also had a lot of neo soul on there(Jill, Erykah, D'angelo..) and I gotta say that the neo soul stuff really pales in comparison to that stuff from the 70s. it's like nowhere near as good, not even in the same universe. looking back on a lot of the neo soul movement I think it resonated so much because of the state of contemporary r&b at the time. but if you wanna compare the arrangements and songwriting and all that it really doesn't hold a candle to the OGs. anybody else feel that way or is it just me? :patrice:

Who is Jill Scott holds up pretty good tho :manny:


1970's is the best era for R&B because it was the culmination of the soul and funk that came before it and Neo Soul was largely based on 70's R&B (mixed with jazz, hiphop and electronica/deep house) of the stevie wonder/donny hathaway/marvin gaye, variety. IMO, what peak, Neo Soul had even over most 70's R&B was that HardBop/Coltraine type Jazz influence. Gil Scot Heron was like the only popular R&B act in the 70's with that feel. The Neo Soul cats picked up heavily on that Gil Scott Heron sound that I dig. Also, many of the Neo Soul acts had vocals stylings that were Jazz + Soul whereas most singers of the 70's didn't have that Jazzy vocal sound (phyllis hyman is a perfect example of jazz stylings) in the mix.

so overall, I would say, peak Neo Soul was just as good and sometimes better than peak 70's R&B



 

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I’m surprised that went over some of these nikkas’ heads. You got some Africans claiming African American when they know precisely what country and specific ethnic group they hail from whereas African Americans have an African ancestry that’s mixed with more than 20 different ethnic groups who hailed from different civilizations in West, Central, and Southeastern Africa. You could run into an African American who’s African ancestry was a mix of Igbo and Bambara or Fulani mixed with Kongo or Yoruba mixed with Asante as a result of American slavery for example.

Africans had endured colonization while African Americans had to endure being stripped from our original homelands in Africa and undergone perpetual enslavement and tramatic institutionalization in a completely new alien culture, environment, and continent. As far as I’m concerned, the term African American or African American Descendant of Slaves should remain EXCLUSIVELY defined as not only being a clearly visible ethnic group with its own rich and unique culture and sense of identity but also as part of the specific history our Ancestors had to endure during the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade, Slavery in the American Colonies and Republic, and Jim Crow, as well as the psychological inflictions slavery has brought upon us (PTSD or Post-Traumatic Slave Disease or Disorder).




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It's easy. You keep calling MikeWayne TV a cac channel....everything is "cracka (cac) this and cracka that"...another Afram word derived from a slur toward whites...I ain't, they ain't, we ain't.
Everything is "c00n this, c00n that"
A slur created by US Cacs to describe AAs.
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Where do you even fit in this convo?
YOU DON'T. Y'all are a short sentence in our multi-volume encyclopedia. That's why you gotta be so loud.
All the fake conscious smokescreen talk doesn't move me and Garvey fukked with US over Y'ALL.
I see why now. Ain't nobody worshipping the US flag, either. You're hurt and jealous .You could be in Jamaica right now listening to some Mento on an AM radio in front of a fruit cart, but you ain't. You in here mad and entitled like a cac, proejecting, and having a breakdown.

Here’s a rep back breh for educating that dumb ass agent :myman:
 

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Someone in here said DOS = Descendants Of Slaves. I'm not sure i like the term AADOS. My main complaint is that our ancestors were people that were enslaved. They werent flat out slaves but i get what you saying.
But it's your ethnicity so do you. :manny:
 

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Someone in here said DOS = Descendants Of Slaves. I'm not sure i like the term AADOS. My main complaint is that our ancestors were people that were enslaved. They werent flat out slaves but i get what you saying.
But it's your ethnicity so do you. :manny:

An African American is a Black person whose ancestors were brought to the USA as slaves. That term was coined back in the 1960s as a descriptor to give Negro or Black Americans a place of descent, because they could not pinpoint one specific place in Africa that their ancestors were from. The first attempt at the descriptor was Afro-American and then it morphed into African American.

Bennett, What's In a Name? Negro vs. Afro-American vs. Black (1967)

Fwiw, why would a person from Nigeria claim to be an African American, when they can clearly point to Nigeria as the place that their ancestors are from? They in fact would be a Nigerian-American and they would have very little if any DNA from other parts of Africa. Whereas a typical African Americans legitimately has DNA from 3 separate regions in Africa, namely West, Central and Southeast Africa. A person from Haiti is a Haitian American. A person from Jamaica is a Jamaican-American. They have a specific country that they are from, which is why I dispute Kamala Harris claim to being an African American.
 

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An African American is a Black person whose ancestors were brought to the USA as slaves. That term was coined back in the 1960s as a descriptor to give Negro or Black Americans a place of descent, because they could not pinpoint one specific place in Africa that their ancestors were from. The first attempt at the descriptor was Afro-American and then it morphed into African American.

Bennett, What's In a Name? Negro vs. Afro-American vs. Black (1967)

Fwiw, why would a person from Nigeria claim to be an African American, when they can clearly point to Nigeria as the place that their ancestors are from? They in fact would be a Nigerian-American and they would have very little if any DNA from other parts of Africa. Whereas a typical African Americans legitimately has DNA from 3 separate regions in Africa, namely West, Central and Southeast Africa. A person from Haiti is a Haitian American. A person from Jamaica is a Jamaican-American. They have a specific country that they are from, which is why I dispute Kamala Harris claim to being an African American.
I dont disagree with anything you said. My question was with the DOS part. But again, Do you.

What about Kamala Harris? WHere is her family from? Is her situation similar to Obama's? Come to think of it Obama wouldnt qualify as African-American with your description.

Also, Haitian ,Jamaicans, and other blacks enslaved in the new world cant pinpoint to where in Africa they are from either so its not like it's a situation thats unique to AAs
 
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I dont disagree with anything you said. My question was with the DOS part. But again, Do you.

What about Kamala Harris? WHere is her family from? Is her situation similar to Obama's? Come to think of it Obama wouldnt qualify as African-American with your description.

Also, Haitian and Jamaicans cant pinpoint to where in Africa they are from either so its not like it's a situation unique to AAs

Barack Obama is allegedly descended from John Punch on his mother's side of the family. Punch was one of the first documented slaves in British North America. So Obama would literally be an African American if the story is true. No only that, but Obama's mother was an American going back generations. So she was an American.
Obama’s Mother Had African Forebear, Study Suggests

Both of Harris' parents were immigrants having no roots in the USA. So how is her story similar to Obama's? She is literally a carpetbagger who is surfing her way into high public office on the lie that she is an African American. Haitians and Jamaicans have countries that they come from, namely Haiti and Jamaica, which makes them Haitian Americans and Jamaican Americans. So why would they claim to be African Americans? That would be as silly as an African American claiming to be Haitian or Jamaican.

So there is no need for the DOS nonsense, because an African American is literally one that is descended from slaves that were brought to the USA. No other person is an African American, except ones that is descended from people brought to the USA as slaves.
 
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