Aaron Hernandez questioned by police in homicide probe (Update: Found guilty of first degree murder)

[NYC Rebel]

no the records could still be sealed from the public but still seen by certain people....

you would wanna try to attempt to get it "expunged"

ask your sister to check to see if she has any history on InstantCheckmate.com if her arrest is on there

i agree tho that the BS charges are a pain in the ass..especially when you gotta pay $270 fines(my case) for some bullshyt "misdemeanor crimes" because cops wanna sacrifice you as a guinea pig to fit their bullshyt "quotas"

Even when they're expunged, interaction of any kind with the law can be unearthed.

I got my issue expunged as well.

 

[Lakers Offseason]

 

[Mr210]

Too many ignorant people I will be staying out of this thread until more info is released

 

[blackzeus]

CAN YOU EXPLAIN crime of passion to me please.

Wikipedia Crime of Passion

A crime of passion refers to a criminal act in which the perpetrator commits a crime, especially murder or assault, against someone because of sudden strong impulse such as sudden rage rather than as a premeditated crime.[2] A typical crime of passion might involve an aggressive pub-goer who assaults another guest following an argument or a husband who discovers his wife has made him a cuckold and proceeds to brutally batter or even kill his wife and the man with whom she was involved.

A good lawyer could argue this is a crime of passion. The main thing is to make sure the 2012 case doesn't stick. But it is not out of the realm of possibility for a good lawyer to get this done.

Yes okay the lawyer going to make everyone forget that he rented the car, called his friends for backup, destroyed his cellphone and erased surveillance footage all because he committed a crime of passion

A good lawyer can do anything. R Kelly was on camera my dude. I've seen people get away with crazy sh*t based on technicalities. More than anything, the type of conversation they had. He was "hurt". "Betrayed", these our key words. If he had killed him for drugs, or for money (like a hitman on a contract), it would be a different story. One could argue that he couldn't have planned it to come out that way, because if he did, he most likely would have left the body somewhere much farther away. A good lawyer can get the premeditated tag removed. There's no way he can avoid jail time. But if they can avoid it being murder one,

Massachusetts Manslaughter Definition

Massachusetts statutory law does not define voluntary manslaughter. Rather, Massachusetts common law, as announced by the courts, provides a definition for manslaughter:
The unlawful killing of another, intentionally caused from a sudden transport of passion or heat of blood:
(1) upon a reasonable provocation and without malice or upon sudden combat; or
(2) from the excessive use of force in self-defense.

Massachusetts doesn't have a definition for 3rd degree murder so I used manslaughter, which states exactly what I've been trying to say. Whose to say Hernandez didn't carry a weapon because he didn't know what Odin might do? They argued, and in the heat of the moment, he shot him. He was so shocked, he ditched the body and went back home. If he was so professional, he would have cleaned the car. Sh*t, he could have returned the car in New Hampshire or some sh*t after taking it to the cleaners. But he didn't. All I'm saying that a good lawyer can get it done.

 

[NSSVO]

When I get Airin like Hernandez I'll leave nikkas slumped next to the crib

 

[gho3st]

Brehs, over/under 20,000 posts in this thread by the time trial ends??

 

[King Crimson]

When I get Airin like Hernandez I'll leave nikkas slumped next to the crib

 

[The ADD]

Brehs, over/under 20,000 posts in this thread by the time trial ends??

Under

 

[Shogun]

no joe budden references yet?

 

[Ayo]

Wikipedia Crime of Passion



A good lawyer could argue this is a crime of passion. The main thing is to make sure the 2012 case doesn't stick. But it is not out of the realm of possibility for a good lawyer to get this done.



A good lawyer can do anything. R Kelly was on camera my dude. I've seen people get away with crazy sh*t based on technicalities. More than anything, the type of conversation they had. He was "hurt". "Betrayed", these our key words. If he had killed him for drugs, or for money (like a hitman on a contract), it would be a different story. One could argue that he couldn't have planned it to come out that way, because if he did, he most likely would have left the body somewhere much farther away. A good lawyer can get the premeditated tag removed. There's no way he can avoid jail time. But if they can avoid it being murder one,

Massachusetts Manslaughter Definition



Massachusetts doesn't have a definition for 3rd degree murder so I used manslaughter, which states exactly what I've been trying to say. Whose to say Hernandez didn't carry a weapon because he didn't know what Odin might do? They argued, and in the heat of the moment, he shot him. He was so shocked, he ditched the body and went back home. If he was so professional, he would have cleaned the car. Sh*t, he could have returned the car in New Hampshire or some sh*t after taking it to the cleaners. But he didn't. All I'm saying that a good lawyer can get it done.

There's a multitude of reasons that this won't happen....

1) The defense would have to decide that their best route is to admit Hernandez was the trigger man. They would have to present evidence of this theory. This won't happen for obvious reasons. There's no gun and the prosecution can't prove that he actually pulled the trigger. Just that he had the most motive. Their best case is to cast doubt on the prosecutions evidence. Not to present evidence that actually implicates their client. Plus, in order to present this theory they would need 1 of the 3 potential shooters to take the stand. That's NEVER going to happen.

2) You don't bring someone out to a gravel field to have a talk. Most of Hernandez's actions prior to the shooting show intent. That's why the prosecutions timeline starts around 9pm. That's where the 1st degree murder charges come from. The thing that separates 1st/2nd degree murder from Manslaughter is premeditation/aforethought.

3) A "reasonable person" would not kill someone under these conditions. A thug would though. So crime of passion most certainly does not apply here. Want a good example of a crime of passion? You get home early at your house and hear noises, you grab your gun. You walk into your bedroom and your wife is fukking the mailman. You shoot and kill both of them in a fit of rage. THAT's a crime of passion.

Texting your boys to come up from CT, bringing a guy you can't trust out to a gravel pit with 2 of your boys, and shooting him multiple times does not count as a crime of passion....regardless of the situation.

Remember, a jury of reasonable people like me and you are going to sit in those chairs. They are just as likely to see through this bullshyt as you and I are. The defense's best option is to poke holes in the prosecutions case and call up character witnesses of their own.

 

[Mr.Grinch]

There's a multitude of reasons that this won't happen....

1) The defense would have to decide that their best route is to admit Hernandez was the trigger man. They would have to present evidence of this theory. This won't happen for obvious reasons. There's no gun and the prosecution can't prove that he actually pulled the trigger. Just that he had the most motive. Their best case is to cast doubt on the prosecutions evidence. Not to present evidence that actually implicates their client. Plus, in order to present this theory they would need 1 of the 3 potential shooters to take the stand. That's NEVER going to happen.

2) You don't bring someone out to a gravel field to have a talk. Most of Hernandez's actions prior to the shooting show intent. That's why the prosecutions timeline starts around 9pm. That's where the 1st degree murder charges come from. The thing that separates 1st/2nd degree murder from Manslaughter is premeditation/aforethought.

3) A "reasonable person" would not kill someone under these conditions. A thug would though. So crime of passion most certainly does not apply here. Want a good example of a crime of passion? You get home early at your house and hear noises, you grab your gun. You walk into your bedroom and your wife is fukking the mailman. You shoot and kill both of them in a fit of rage. THAT's a crime of passion.

Texting your boys to come up from CT, bringing a guy you can't trust out to a gravel pit with 2 of your boys, and shooting him multiple times does not count as a crime of passion....regardless of the situation.

Remember, a jury of reasonable people like me and you are going to sit in those chairs. They are just as likely to see through this bullshyt as you and I are. The defense's best option is to cast doubt that Hernandez pulled the trigger.

 

[deep]

There's a multitude of reasons that this won't happen....

1) The defense would have to decide that their best route is to admit Hernandez was the trigger man. They would have to present evidence of this theory. This won't happen for obvious reasons. There's no gun and the prosecution can't prove that he actually pulled the trigger. Just that he had the most motive. Their best case is to cast doubt on the prosecutions evidence. Not to present evidence that actually implicates their client. Plus, in order to present this theory they would need 1 of the 3 potential shooters to take the stand. That's NEVER going to happen.

2) You don't bring someone out to a gravel field to have a talk. Most of Hernandez's actions prior to the shooting show intent. That's why the prosecutions timeline starts around 9pm. That's where the 1st degree murder charges come from. The thing that separates 1st/2nd degree murder from Manslaughter is premeditation/aforethought.

3) A "reasonable person" would not kill someone under these conditions. A thug would though. So crime of passion most certainly does not apply here. Want a good example of a crime of passion? You get home early at your house and hear noises, you grab your gun. You walk into your bedroom and your wife is fukking the mailman. You shoot and kill both of them in a fit of rage. THAT's a crime of passion.

Texting your boys to come up from CT, bringing a guy you can't trust out to a gravel pit with 2 of your boys, and shooting him multiple times does not count as a crime of passion....regardless of the situation.

Remember, a jury of reasonable people like me and you are going to sit in those chairs. They are just as likely to see through this bullshyt as you and I are. The defense's best option is to poke holes in the prosecutions case and call up character witnesses of their own.

damn I can't refute this........lol

 

[jadillac]

https://twitter.com/TMZ/status/351765099108765696


clown ass nikka :unclecharles: :clubber:

they were "analyzing" his tattoos to see if they are gang-related which could cause an issue in GP.

Sounds like maybe that's the case.

 

[jadillac]

Police have a theory as to why they think former New England Patriots star Aaron Hernandez killed Odin Lloyd -- he knew secrets that could have destroyed Aaron's relationship with his fiancée and the team.

Law enforcement sources tell TMZ ... there are several operating theories, but a prevailing one based on evidence they have already unearthed is that Lloyd "mouthed off" to Hernandez about "secrets" Hernandez had told him in the past.

As for what the nature of the secrets -- we're told they involve 2 issues: Aaron's involvement in drugs and Aaron's involvement in several violent incidents.

Our law enforcement sources tell TMZ ... they do not believe Lloyd tried to extort Hernandez -- in other words, ask for money in return for secrecy. The theory is that Hernandez went ballistic after Lloyd started throwing damaging information in Hernandez's face -- information Hernandez thought would end his relationship with his fiancée and his football career.

 

[re'up]

The defense may try to paint a case that they planned it to scare, intimidate, or coerce Lloyd, and things got out of hand, but multiple gunshot wounds and defensive wounds on the victim, won't look good. The defense will admit to the action, but not the circumstances.

As for motive, I can buy the above, that Lloyd made references to secrets he may have know, like he was holding it over Hernandez head, tension may have boiled over that night at the club, more about a conversation Lloyd and AH had, not necessarily with anyone else.