Aaron Hernandez questioned by police in homicide probe (Update: Found guilty of first degree murder)

[Tony D'Amato]

N1ggaz rwally thinkin he gonna walk from this?

N1ggaz need to try and get one of his jerseys, sh1t gonna be worth something when he gets that sentence handed down

 

[Exit9NJturnpike]

It makes the most sense that it was over the two murders from last year.

 

[jwinfield]

It's not a crime of passion.

 

[Tony D'Amato]

It's not a crime of passion.

Him calling his homies for backup is proof of that. Pre meditated. I'll be shocked if someone doesnt sn1tch.

 

[Ayo]

1. Yes, AH should admit he's guilty. Not only will it save him BIG money. It will show remorse, and show that he knew he did wrong after he came to his senses. I know it's innocent until proven guilty, but , we all know he did it. Do the time

2. You didn't read the facts. The police stated the body was DUMPED there. That Odin was clearly shot before that. He didn't execute him in the gravel field. Why the f*ck do would there be shell casings in the car if he executed him outdoors? These internet nikkaz

3. What is a "reasonable" person? That's very circumstantial. What is a fact is that AH found out his long time homey was ratting him out, lost it, confronted him, and went over the edge and killed him. Whether the jury decides he's a cold hardened killer, or a misguided young Hispanic male with no father figure who fell into the wrong crowd, had a daughter and tried to leave it all behind, only to have his longtime friend and damn near brother-in-law bring him back into the bullsh*t. Shooting him multiple times is even more so an act of passion than say one bullet in the back of the head. You are more likely to keep pulling a trigger after someone's dead because you're so enraged.

AH trying to prove he didn't kill Odin will not only empty his bank account, but surely get him 25-to-life. Plead guilty, throw yourself at the feet of jury, and apologize for the crime to everybody involved. If I were the lawyer, I would tell him to stop with the grill. Let him talk, let him appeal to the human side of the court. Try to get a bunch of soccer moms on the jury. It's his only realistic shot.

1. Hernandez could claim that he brought Lloyd there to scare him or rough him up and things got out of hand. Plea deal down to 2nd degree murder gives him life with the hope of parole, best case scenario plea to voluntary manslaughter and do 10-20 years. But everything about the police timeline tells me that this is a murder 1 case and nothing else. The DA will not plea down this case. The perp walk was further proof that they have no intention of playing nice with Hernandez.

2. Lloyd was not dumped there. You are going off of early misinformation. Lloyd was shot there on the spot. Several witnesses who work near/at the gravel pits heard the gunshots ring out.

3. I used the term "reasonable person" because it's actually a legal term. Though there isn't one definition. You and I are most likely reasonable people (though your arguments above might have me reconsider.) Would you shoot your boy in cold blood like that? If you were really mad? Is a soccer mom or local small business owner going to be able to relate to this "crime of passion/rage"? I bet they wouldn't. That defense works with cheating spouses but not friends who snitch on you for past crimes.

Also, the crime of passion/heat of the moment angle would require the defense to submit evidence to support it. Which could only be testimony from someone who was present in the car and at the gravel pit. Putting Hernandez or one of his boys on the stand. Directly implicating AH in not only this death, but also past crimes, basically admitting that all of the prosecutions evidence is factual up until the point of the shooting. Hernandez starts looking a lot less sympathetic to a jury at this point. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

Sound like you're arguing just for the sake of argument.

 

[Ayo]

Since I'm almost 100% certain that
1) Hernandez's ego/pride is too large for a plea deal and
2) the prosecution has no interest in one

I think Hernandez's defense's best shot is to
1) put holes in the police's timeline and expert/ eye witness testimony
2) reenforce the fact that the prosecution has found no gun, no fingerprints, and has no clue who pulled the trigger or if all parties involved were in agreement with the murder
3) put a character witness or two on the stand along with 1 or 2 techs experts of their own that will cast doubt on the cell phone triangulation evidence.

 

[El Jefe]

if i was him id b sayin its mistaken identity

it was Cuban Link who did dis shyt not AH ..

 

[re'up]

I think you're wrong saying the body was dumped there, they established he was killed getting out of the car, or thats where the first shots came from, then he maybe turned around pleading, and they finished him. If they shot him in the car, blood stains would be very likely, and shooting someone multiple times close range in the back of a car? Nah. Was executed at the industrial park.

 

[aqualung]

...Their best case is to cast doubt on the prosecutions evidence. Not to present evidence that actually implicates their client. Plus, in order to present this theory they would need 1 of the 3 potential shooters to take the stand. That's NEVER going to happen.
...
Texting your boys to come up from CT, bringing a guy you can't trust out to a gravel pit with 2 of your boys, and shooting him multiple times does not count as a crime of passion...
The defense's best option is to poke holes in the prosecutions case and call up character witnesses of their own.

You make good points. *nodding*

Of course AH can STILL be convicted of murder1 even if there's uncertainty about whose finger pulled the trigger that shot the 4th bullet. All the texts show AH orchestrating the encounter, whether his underlings shot bullet 1 for AH or AH fired it himself.

AH is fukked for character witnesses. He hangs out with thugs, Patriots are distancing selves, that Ohio coach predicted NFL stardom or a state pen, and AH's own mama admitted publicly that he flipped his shyt after the death his dad.
--Display AH's daughter b4 the jury to get sympathy?
--Put his tattoo artist on the stand to testify that AH paid promptly and in full?
--AH's big bro and fiance could deny his gang affiliations, but the jury can tell by looking at his tatted skin. A suit and tie will NEITHER COVER NOR DIGNIFY THESE HAND TATTS at trial.

--> aq out <--

 

[Jax]

So, Zimmerman gonna walk and AH can't think he'll walk?

 

[The ADD]

So, Zimmerman gonna walk and AH can't think he'll walk?

Two different cases entirely.

 

[Jax]

Two different cases entirely.

"self defense"

 

[deep]

1. how do we explain Lloyd having the rental car keys in his pocket?

2. and if Lloyd was shot outside, how in the hell was a single shell casing in the car?

 

[The ADD]

"self defense"

Zimmerman is more likely to walk because what he was charged with and the difficulty proving that.

 

[Francis White]

1. Hernandez could claim that he brought Lloyd there to scare him or rough him up and things got out of hand. Plea deal down to 2nd degree murder gives him life with the hope of parole, best case scenario plea to voluntary manslaughter and do 10-20 years. But everything about the police timeline tells me that this is a murder 1 case and nothing else. The DA will not plea down this case. The perp walk was further proof that they have no intention of playing nice with Hernandez.

2. Lloyd was not dumped there. You are going off of early misinformation. Lloyd was shot there on the spot. Several witnesses who work near/at the gravel pits heard the gunshots ring out.

3. I used the term "reasonable person" because it's actually a legal term. Though there isn't one definition. You and I are most likely reasonable people (though your arguments above might have me reconsider.) Would you shoot your boy in cold blood like that? If you were really mad? Is a soccer mom or local small business owner going to be able to relate to this "crime of passion/rage"? I bet they wouldn't. That defense works with cheating spouses but not friends who snitch on you for past crimes.

Also, the crime of passion/heat of the moment angle would require the defense to submit evidence to support it. Which could only be testimony from someone who was present in the car and at the gravel pit. Putting Hernandez or one of his boys on the stand. Directly implicating AH in not only this death, but also past crimes, basically admitting that all of the prosecutions evidence is factual up until the point of the shooting. Hernandez starts looking a lot less sympathetic to a jury at this point. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

Sound like you're arguing just for the sake of argument.

Without a doubt the smartest post on here, i mean guys saying self defense, like he didn't have 2 of his boys with him? I mean cases like this really bring out the morons on this site.