Aaron Hernandez questioned by police in homicide probe (Update: Found guilty of first degree murder)

[Mr210]

If the defense gets him off these lawyers should be put up there with cochrane

 

[mr. smoke weed]

LOL. this is the most delusional post i've seen in a while. Since when did niccas only do 7 years for first degree murder?? And even if he did, who wants a 30 year old convicted murderer TE on their roster??

this shyt got me rolling
aint homocide hernandez got two other cases to beat if he beats this first degree murder wrap?

 

[Rocket Scientist]

What secrets about Hernandez they keep saying!? Only secrets there can be is either the crime or he was DL or something.It must be something on Hernandez which isnt coming out.

 

[Buckeye Fever]

Dont severe your gang ties when you become a millionaire, brehs

 

[Earnings]

What secrets about Hernandez they keep saying!? Only secrets there can be is either the crime or he was DL or something.It must be something on Hernandez which isnt coming out.

Im thinkin powder usage too

 

[god shamgod]

Hernandez went from being young and rich living in a 4 story mansion wit his girl and baby to lights out at 9pm and being in a cell all day.This story is crazy and it's amazing how this dude completely ruined his life

 

[Stack Money]

mike vick killed people now???

He killed dogs so he technically a killer.

Ray Lewis' situation is way different. People who compare this shyt to Ray Lewis are stupid. :really:

Ray Lewis was initially charged wit TWO counts of murder, muhfukkas forget they had way more evidence against him than they do Hernandez. Thats why nikkas say he snitched cause no way you get out of all that shyt wit simple obstruction of justice.

And that is exactly why these "gangstas" like @StackMoney are absolute dumbasses. Murder should never be defended.

The fact we have "I feel for the dude(Aaron Hernandez)" type of people in here instead of the actual VICTIM is an embarrassment

fukk that SNITCHIN should never be defended, that snitch ass nikka got what he deserved.

If you wasn't such a bytchmade fakkit you'd know the victim is the dude that got snitched on, hell yeah I feel sorry for Hernandez cause there are some situations where murder is necessary but there ain't no excuse for snitchin.

they were "analyzing" his tattoos to see if they are gang-related which could cause an issue in GP.

Sounds like maybe that's the case.

He a gang member a celebrity and is charged wit a high profile murder, each one of those things automatically gets you sent to GP. All this talk about his safety is dumb tho cause he a Blood, there's plenty Bloods all thru jail and prison so he gon have protection wherever he goes.

If the defense gets him off these lawyers should be put up there with cochrane

Errbody hyped off the media coverage but it ain't nowhere near a open and shut case, everythin they got on Hernandez is on some circumstantial shyt they ain't got the murder weapon established a real motive or have eye witnesses sayin he was the triggerman. Most they would be able to prove right now is he was involved in the murder not that he actually did it hisself.

 

[A.J.Soprano]

Police have a theory as to why they think former New England Patriots star Aaron Hernandez killed Odin Lloyd -- he knew secrets that could have destroyed Aaron's relationship with his fiancée and the team.

Law enforcement sources tell TMZ ... there are several operating theories, but a prevailing one based on evidence they have already unearthed is that Lloyd "mouthed off" to Hernandez about "secrets" Hernandez had told him in the past.

As for what the nature of the secrets -- we're told they involve 2 issues: Aaron's involvement in drugs and Aaron's involvement in several violent incidents.

Our law enforcement sources tell TMZ ... they do not believe Lloyd tried to extort Hernandez -- in other words, ask for money in return for secrecy. The theory is that Hernandez went ballistic after Lloyd started throwing damaging information in Hernandez's face -- information Hernandez thought would end his relationship with his fiancée and his football career.

then I understand why he did it then, it probably had something to do with those 2 murders last year






u can't be threatening n1ggas like that breh, thats why I mind my own damn business and I'm not a nosey person, getting in other peoples biz can get u bodied.

 

[jadillac]

then I understand why he did it then, it probably had something to do with those 2 murders last year

u can't be threatening n1ggas like that breh, thats why I mind my own damn business and I'm not a nosey person, getting in other peoples biz can get u bodied.

My theory.....

Hernandez trusted Lloyd over the time they knew each other and explicitly told him his dealings, or didn't care to hide whatever he was doing around Lloyd b/c he felt comfortable around him, even more especially given that each were dating the others sister.

Hernandez may be an annoying/bossy person in general given his ego from being a star, probably was rude/disrespectful to Lloyd 1 too many times, and one day Lloyd popped off back to him, "....I could ruin your relationship/football career if I told all of the sh*t you do" or something to that effect.

That now plants a seed of paranoia in Hernandez mind, meanwhile Lloyd is talking to too many people Hernandez dislikes(at the club and maybe elsewhere), and Hernandez is noid as to what he's talking to them about, and replaying a scenario in his mind of what would happen if this info got out..... now feels he "can't trust him anymore", but makes no big deal about it to Lloyd that night....next night text buddies to come up, he goes to pick up Lloyd the next night like they may normally do, after that....you know the rest.

 

[blackzeus]

The theory is that Hernandez went ballistic after Lloyd started throwing damaging information in Hernandez's face -- information Hernandez thought would end his relationship with his fiancée and his football career.

Wikipedia Crime of Passion

A crime of passion refers to a criminal act in which the perpetrator commits a crime, especially murder or assault, against someone because of sudden strong impulse such as sudden rage rather than as a premeditated crime.[2] A typical crime of passion might involve an aggressive pub-goer who assaults another guest following an argument or a husband who discovers his wife has made him a cuckold and proceeds to brutally batter or even kill his wife and the man with whom she was involved.

 

[A.J.Soprano]

My theory.....

Hernandez trusted Lloyd over the time they knew each other and explicitly told him his dealings, or didn't care to hide whatever he was doing around Lloyd b/c he felt comfortable around him, even more especially given that each were dating the others sister.

Hernandez may be an annoying/bossy person in general given his ego from being a star, probably was rude/disrespectful to Lloyd 1 too many times, and one day Lloyd popped off back to him, "....I could ruin your relationship/football career if I told all of the sh*t you do" or something to that effect.

That now plants a seed of paranoia in Hernandez mind, meanwhile Lloyd is talking to too many people Hernandez dislikes(at the club and maybe elsewhere), and Hernandez is noid as to what he's talking to them about, and replaying a scenario in his mind of what would happen if this info got out..... now feels he "can't trust him anymore", but makes no big deal about it to Lloyd that night....next night text buddies to come up, he goes to pick up Lloyd the next night like they may normally do, after that....you know the rest.

what type of man would do the bolded tho?



like, if that was my mans, I wouldn't want to fuk him up but since Hernandez was a millioniare he could afford some boxing gloves and equipment so I'd ask him to set up a match so we could throw down and get this sh1t off our chest, box for a couple rounds to see who the real man is, and then squash it without ending our friendship or causing any real injury.



I'm betting it was extortion, Lloyd was broke and working landscaping jobs and he saw this n1gga making all this money simply by just playing ball and got a lil jealous. It happens.



Murder is wack but if Lloyd did say some sh1t like that then I kinda understand, I just woulda fukked him up instead of killing him tho, no n1gga worth throwing away my life over

 

[jadillac]

Wikipedia Crime of Passion

no way that would stick.

He pretty much had 24hrs or maybe longer to plan/plot this out, texted his friends to come up, rental car, etc.

Also, whatever information Lloyd knew that caused AH to fly off the handle, might be illegal info.

A crime of passion would be better argued in an OJ scenario..even though that could be argued he plotted that out too. The idea of him seeing another man coming over could've "sent him over the edge"

 

[blackzeus]

There's a multitude of reasons that this won't happen....

1) The defense would have to decide that their best route is to admit Hernandez was the trigger man. They would have to present evidence of this theory. This won't happen for obvious reasons. There's no gun and the prosecution can't prove that he actually pulled the trigger. Just that he had the most motive. Their best case is to cast doubt on the prosecutions evidence. Not to present evidence that actually implicates their client. Plus, in order to present this theory they would need 1 of the 3 potential shooters to take the stand. That's NEVER going to happen.

2) You don't bring someone out to a gravel field to have a talk. Most of Hernandez's actions prior to the shooting show intent. That's why the prosecutions timeline starts around 9pm. That's where the 1st degree murder charges come from. The thing that separates 1st/2nd degree murder from Manslaughter is premeditation/aforethought.

3) A "reasonable person" would not kill someone under these conditions. A thug would though. So crime of passion most certainly does not apply here. Want a good example of a crime of passion? You get home early at your house and hear noises, you grab your gun. You walk into your bedroom and your wife is fukking the mailman. You shoot and kill both of them in a fit of rage. THAT's a crime of passion.

Texting your boys to come up from CT, bringing a guy you can't trust out to a gravel pit with 2 of your boys, and shooting him multiple times does not count as a crime of passion....regardless of the situation.

Remember, a jury of reasonable people like me and you are going to sit in those chairs. They are just as likely to see through this bullshyt as you and I are. The defense's best option is to poke holes in the prosecutions case and call up character witnesses of their own.

1. Yes, AH should admit he's guilty. Not only will it save him BIG money. It will show remorse, and show that he knew he did wrong after he came to his senses. I know it's innocent until proven guilty, but , we all know he did it. Do the time

2. You didn't read the facts. The police stated the body was DUMPED there. That Odin was clearly shot before that. He didn't execute him in the gravel field. Why the f*ck do would there be shell casings in the car if he executed him outdoors? These internet nikkaz

3. What is a "reasonable" person? That's very circumstantial. What is a fact is that AH found out his long time homey was ratting him out, lost it, confronted him, and went over the edge and killed him. Whether the jury decides he's a cold hardened killer, or a misguided young Hispanic male with no father figure who fell into the wrong crowd, had a daughter and tried to leave it all behind, only to have his longtime friend and damn near brother-in-law bring him back into the bullsh*t. Shooting him multiple times is even more so an act of passion than say one bullet in the back of the head. You are more likely to keep pulling a trigger after someone's dead because you're so enraged.

AH trying to prove he didn't kill Odin will not only empty his bank account, but surely get him 25-to-life. Plead guilty, throw yourself at the feet of jury, and apologize for the crime to everybody involved. If I were the lawyer, I would tell him to stop with the grill. Let him talk, let him appeal to the human side of the court. Try to get a bunch of soccer moms on the jury. It's his only realistic shot.

 

[cook]

1. Yes, AH should admit he's guilty. Not only will it save him BIG money. It will show remorse, and show that he knew he did wrong after he came to his senses. I know it's innocent until proven guilty, but , we all know he did it. Do the time

2. You didn't read the facts. The police stated the body was DUMPED there. That Odin was clearly shot before that. He didn't execute him in the gravel field. Why the f*ck do would there be shell casings in the car if he executed him outdoors? These internet nikkaz

3. What is a "reasonable" person? That's very circumstantial. What is a fact is that AH found out his long time homey was ratting him out, lost it, confronted him, and went over the edge and killed him. Whether the jury decides he's a cold hardened killer, or a misguided young Hispanic male with no father figure who fell into the wrong crowd, had a daughter and tried to leave it all behind, only to have his longtime friend and damn near brother-in-law bring him back into the bullsh*t. Shooting him multiple times is even more so an act of passion than say one bullet in the back of the head. You are more likely to keep pulling a trigger after someone's dead because you're so enraged.

AH trying to prove he didn't kill Odin will not only empty his bank account, but surely get him 25-to-life. Plead guilty, throw yourself at the feet of jury, and apologize for the crime to everybody involved. If I were the lawyer, I would tell him to stop with the grill. Let him talk, let him appeal to the human side of the court. Try to get a bunch of soccer moms on the jury. It's his only realistic shot.

theres no pleaing down a murder 1 in MA. him admitting it will still get him life.

the police stated the body was NOT dumped there and the location of the body was where he was murdered. they found bullets in the ground beneath the body, meaning the killer stood over lloyd who was laying on the ground and fired straight down, killing him.

 

[jadillac]

1. Yes, AH should admit he's guilty. Not only will it save him BIG money. It will show remorse, and show that he knew he did wrong after he came to his senses. I know it's innocent until proven guilty, but , we all know he did it. Do the time

2. You didn't read the facts. The police stated the body was DUMPED there. That Odin was clearly shot before that. He didn't execute him in the gravel field. Why the f*ck do would there be shell casings in the car if he executed him outdoors? These internet nikkaz

3. What is a "reasonable" person? That's very circumstantial. What is a fact is that AH found out his long time homey was ratting him out, lost it, confronted him, and went over the edge and killed him. Whether the jury decides he's a cold hardened killer, or a misguided young Hispanic male with no father figure who fell into the wrong crowd, had a daughter and tried to leave it all behind, only to have his longtime friend and damn near brother-in-law bring him back into the bullsh*t. Shooting him multiple times is even more so an act of passion than say one bullet in the back of the head. You are more likely to keep pulling a trigger after someone's dead because you're so enraged.

AH trying to prove he didn't kill Odin will not only empty his bank account, but surely get him 25-to-life. Plead guilty, throw yourself at the feet of jury, and apologize for the crime to everybody involved. If I were the lawyer, I would tell him to stop with the grill. Let him talk, let him appeal to the human side of the court. Try to get a bunch of soccer moms on the jury. It's his only realistic shot.

1. Perhaps he probably did do it. And if he was driving the car, and the shell casings are under the front drivers seat, then yes he did it for sure.

2. To way I gather it is from the cops, he was shot initially as he was getting out of the car. Then shot again as he was on the ground, then left there for dead.

3. This is partly true, that a crime of passion would possibly have more gunshots, more stab wounds, etc., and in some aspect that's probably what it was, but to a VERY SMALL DEGREE. Again, this dude was not his immediate family, was not his long-time best friend, etc.

If ur Aaron Hernandez, you're gonna shoot this guy as many times as possible to make sure he's dead b/c if not, he's gonna definitely snitch then if was wasn't before.