Aaliyah = Cieara
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@JustCKing yousa SUCKA MC.
i just researched it. "make it hot" is the only song timbaland ever produced for nicole wray.
youre full of chit and you know it. just wave the white flag mane.
says the mellow fellow in here talembout he had an epiphany.
ole "2 snaps with a twist" ass nugga.
i just researched it. "make it hot" is the only song timbaland ever produced for nicole wray.
youre full of chit and you know it. just wave the white flag mane.
says the mellow fellow in here talembout he had an epiphany.
ole "2 snaps with a twist" ass nugga.
tehparadox
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what is Wacky even talking about lel
Whitty Hutton
these posters are TRASH
"Cieara" 
who the hell are you?
get your alias ass outta here.
this simpleton came in here all confused, talembout "LEL".
put together a top 10 ciara playlist bruh...................
dog. are you slow?
my bad if you are but cmon now. we on page 13 and you still dont know what this thread is about?
every1 knows Ciara is a snob,hence why no1 really fukks wid her
what does this have to do with what i said?
this is just industry back-door chit.
lol @ you trying to put TLC in the same boat as aaliyah.
tlc are indeed '90s icons. and if we're talking black music, theyre bigger icons than mariah.
lol @ this kid chit. i call you out for moving goal-posts, so in turn you just randomly accuse me of doing it? are you a parrot? cuz i never moved a dam goal-post in here.
i dont diguise chit. i just tell it like it is.
and i didnt say her fans were soul-less. im saying that one lane that she had the advantage in was the soul-less crowd. get it right.
are you really gonna compare that to the promotion aaliyah was getting?
i didnt bring up sales. it was already in the conversation.
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Boris Reznikov
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who the hell are you?
get your alias ass outta here.
this simpleton came in here all confused, talembout "LEL".
dog. are you slow?
my bad if you are but cmon now. we on page 13 and you still dont know what this thread is about?
what does this have to do with what i said?
this is just industry back-door chit.
lol @ you trying to put TLC in the same boat as aaliyah.
tlc are indeed '90s icons. and if we're talking black music, theyre bigger icons than mariah.
lol @ this kid chit. i call you out for moving goal-posts, so in turn you just randomly accuse me of doing it? are you a parrot? cuz i never moved a dam goal-post in here.
i dont diguise chit. i just tell it like it is.
and i didnt say her fans were soul-less. im saying that one lane that she had the advantage in was the soul-less crowd. get it right.
are you really gonna compare that to the promotion aaliyah was getting?
i didnt bring up sales. it was already in the conversation.
People like you who like to downplay the significance of music they is overrated would make the same claims about TLC that you're making about Aaliyah. People have said that they couldn't sing. They were for a specific audience. They were only poppin' because of the production. The list goes on. With Mariah, you have someone that has an iconic voice co-signed by the likes of Patti LaBelle. She had iconic songs and albums in the 90's (not saying that TLC didn't). Even within Black music, Mariah Carey was to the 90's what Beyonce is to the 00's (except Mariah didn't dance).
Moving of goal posts and backhanded statements by Wacky D:
yea its a refined version of devante's production. basically a more family-friendly version, and a tad bit watered-down.
it did help reshape the landscape of urban music tho.....the production that is. not the album.
i also recall ginuwine's album being bigger than aalyiah's in real-time, despite having a much lesser push(different labels anyway).
^^^ Prime examples of your backhanded compliments. Nothing about this is keeping it real. It's you giving props and then dissing what you gave props to by downplaying the quality of it. If it re-shaped the landscape of Urban music, the rest of what you posted is only significant in regard to how you personally felt about it. You're throwing shade while simultaneously giving props, which is as fake as it gets.
Ginuwine's album being bigger than Aaliyah's in real time according to you with the added "despite having a much lesser push" is you moving goal posts. The Bachelor had six singles with "Pony" being the most successful. One In A Million had the same amount of singles.Outside of Ginuwine's "Pony", Aaliyah's singles were bigger than Ginuwine's other singles.
@JustCKing yousa SUCKA MC.
i just researched it. "make it hot" is the only song timbaland ever produced for nicole wray.
youre full of chit and you know it. just wave the white flag mane.
says the mellow fellow in here talembout he had an epiphany.
ole "2 snaps with a twist" ass nugga.
Some research. If you'd done your research, you would've discovered "Bangin" feat. Prodigy which was the first single for her never released sophomore album, Electric Blue. It's not an unreleased song. It was an official single.
man shut the f*ck up and stop putting words in my mouth. you pissin me off now with that chit.
im not downplaying chit. youre just embellishing. and it has nothing to do with who i think is overrated. hell, i dont even think TLC is the best female group of the '90s, but they certainly were the biggest. and wouldnt you care to know that i liked aaliyah more than brandy? i didnt even like brandy half the time. but this revisionist push to pretend that aaliyah wasnt the 3rd wheel of the female teen lane is some clown chit. and this push to dress it up and pretend that she had more impact & influence is even more silly.
lol. you obviously dont know what "moving the goal-posts" means because none of those are examples of such.and like i said, i dont do back-handed compliments. i dont have to disguise chit. i tell it like it is str8 up. if you cant handle it because youre weak at heart, then thats a personal problem.
here you go again with the dumb chit, trying to move goal-posts on the slick. thats all you do whenever you cant respond to something. you try to stretch it into something else, and even worst, you try to act like i made a different statement. i said ginuwine's album was bigger, and he was a bigger act. i didnt say anything about the singles. ginuwine didnt even get the same kind of push, and they were on 2 different labels.......aaliyah being signed to her uncle barry.
as for mariah, there were at least a handful of female r&b acts that were more iconic WITHIN black music in the '90s. you have no sense of cultural impact. i peeped that long before this thread tho. and so what if she got cosigned by legends? you do know that if you apply that argument across the board, it completely annihilates your attempts to boost aaliyah over monica & brandy, right?
sitdown.who the f*ck cares? im not gonna go back-n-forth over that chit.
the point is, you were up here trying to act like nicole wray was backed by timbaland beats, in hopes of saving face for aaliyah. that chit is corny.
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man shut the f*ck up and stop putting words in my mouth. you pissin me off now with that chit.
im not downplaying chit. youre just embellishing. and it has nothing to do with who i think is overrated. hell, i dont even think TLC is the best female group of the '90s, but they certainly were the biggest. and wouldnt you care to know that i liked aaliyah more than brandy? i didnt even like brandy half the time. but this revisionist push to pretend that aaliyah wasnt the 3rd wheel of the female teen lane is some clown chit. and this push to dress it up and pretend that she had more impact & influence is even more silly.
and like i said, i dont do back-handed compliments. i dont have to disguise chit. i tell it like it is str8 up. if you cant handle it because youre weak at heart, then thats a personal problem.
here you go again with the dumb chit, trying to move goal-posts on the slick. thats all you do whenever you cant respond to something. you try to stretch it into something else, and even worst, you try to act like i made a different statement. i said ginuwine's album was bigger, and he was a bigger act. i didnt say anything about the singles. ginuwine didnt even get the same kind of push, and they were on 2 different labels.......aaliyah being signed to her uncle barry.
as for mariah, there were at least a handful of female r&b acts that were more iconic WITHIN black music in the '90s. you have no sense of cultural impact. i peeped that long before this thread tho. and so what if she got cosigned by legends? you do know that if you apply that argument across the board, it completely annihilates your attempts to boost aaliyah over monica & brandy, right?
who the f*ck cares? im not gonna go back-n-forth over that chit.
the point is, you were up here trying to act like nicole wray was backed by timbaland beats, in hopes of saving face for aaliyah. that chit is corny.
Those are YOUR words though.
You stay downplaying artists you don't like. You don't tell it straight up. A lot of your statements are backhanded compliments.
How am I moving goal posts? How was Ginuwine's album bigger? He got the same push. Who cares if Aaliyah was signed by Barry Hankerson or Barry White?
By 90's, I'm talking artists who debuted in the 90's. I know what cultural impact is and it goes beyond what you and I THINK. You seem to have this warped sense of reality that your opinions themselves equate to cultural impact. Her being co-signed by legends wasn't the end-all, be-all of my argument though. Act like Mariah's music didn't have cultural impact.
Nicole Wray didn't have a Timbaland-helmed album, but she was backed by his production.