Aaliyah = Cieara

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:mindblown: nicca u did directly refer to it tho....fukk outta here callin nikkas a doofus



nope. i tacked on 'Are You That Somebody' to my initial disinterest in the third Aaliyah album as a caveat to her being done imo post 'One In a Million'. Whatever silliness you brought to the convo is all yours. Are you gay?
 

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nope. i tacked on 'Are You That Somebody' to my initial disinterest in the third Aaliyah album as a caveat to her being done imo post 'One In a Million'. Whatever silliness you brought to the convo is all yours. Are you gay?
Eat a dikk nicca. nikka u gay nikka :pacspit:
 

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point is der personality makes people connect with der music more....ciara has none hence why its hard for her to pop off again.....

same goes for kiesha cole,Charlemagne said it best,its all about transparency

and again....Aaliyahs vibe>>>>>Ciara's

:usure: about that?

hate to break it to yall but:
ciara's influence, impact & popularity amongst girls/teens/young women in the '00s >>>>>>>>>>> aalyiah's in the '90s.

yall basing yall whole perspective on '90s boyhood nostalgia, which is a faulty perspective & has absolutely no bearing.:laugh:


The boy is mine is better than the joints off one in a million?

I loathe this late 9@'s r&greeze lane but Aaliyah was cuter and had an album unfortunate ratchets clung too, I dare anyone say I wasn't there.

thanks for exposing your faulty logic.

but theres no need for you to do that. we already know you have a thing for petite light-skinned women.

@Maddmike I don't even know what never say never is. I'll deduce it's either a brandy or Monica album. I'm 100% from area code 10304. Take from that what you will.

thanks for coming.

youve just officially eliminated yourself from this debate.

Real r&b cats barely paid attention to the third Aaliyah album. I hate "are you that somebody" too.

I'm an actual soul man. Y'all cannot fukk with me on any level.


and extra special thanks for this comment, which i dapped you for.

i knew that before your 5th post, you would have already agreed with the opposing side and killed off your own comrades in a botched attempt of friendly-fire.

you str8 chased that one cat out of here before i could even respond to him.:myman:
 
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:patrice:so....a 20 track cd is about to be released of past material from both artists,who has the better cd?
put it this way,ciara sold more albums yet her songs cant stand up to aaliyahs,

:scusthov:

i see that the premise of this thread went WAY OVER your head.

timbo put it down breh, dont een :comeon:

and if you wanna play the numbers game, like some ppl :stopitslime:, that was a hot grammy nominated track (from a soundtrack of a corny ass movie) it wasnt on her 3rd album.

youre killing your own argument with that "timbo put it down" chit.

and i dont know why youre calling out dr dolittle as being corny, cuz "are you that somebody" was just as corn. it fit the soundtrack perfectly. i mean, i liked the song too but cmon dun.

ciara doesn't have an image....

she jus had a baby, no1 cared lol,when shes on stage thats when she comes alive

aaliyah had an image,whether it was wearing boxers,dark shades,sweat pants, she had that tomboy image

:why:

man thats not aaliyah's image. that was just aaliyah hoppin on the bandwagon of what everybody else was already wearing.

the only thing she had going that was original was when she started rockin the tall leather jackets. str8 looking like the female sidekick of a late '90s era sting.

in fact right now,rihanna is eating off of Aaliyahs style...........:sas2:

:comeon:

youre just making stuff up on the fly, and you seem to be proud of it.


Aaliyah by a mile.....
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ciara is yet to have a better video than rock the boat....

LOL @ rock the boat.

LOL.


its always fake against-the-grain-ass-niccas who throw shade :comeon:
lets be reality, yeah ciara had a no.1 but she had no type of longevity whatsoever. she was hot in a 2 year span :heh: 2 years flies by real fast in the music industry, breh.
aaliyah was bout getting hollywood bread too, 2 feature films and was gonna take off. Brandy wasnt (dont come @ me with that Moesha BS. heaux like miley and selena gomez got shows, aint no thang), monica wasnt, half of DC wasn't even relevant during their run.


so according to you, the OP is going against the grain because hes not a brainless sheep that swallows whatever bullchit the media tells him to think? WOW.

what longevity did aaliyah have over ciara? they were both hot for 2 albums. the only difference is that aaliyah went on hiatuses between albums, as opposed to ciara who dropped her joints in a more timely fashion.

and not that it matters(since we're supposed to be talking music) but lol @ you trying to hype up aaliyah's movies, then having the audacity to downplay brandy's acting career in the next sentence.:facepalm:

Her leading in that one lane is what separates her. Her leading in that lane isn't the end-all, be-all to her success, because those weren't her only fans. You're downplaying as usual. A lot of your posts always come with some kind of backhanded statement.
Missy's big break as a writer was Aaliyah. Missy will tell you that, but I'm quite sure you'd tell Missy that she doesn't know her own career.
In regard to "Pony" and One In A Million, Amazon has "Pony" listed with 8/20/1996 release date. Aaliyah's One In A Million dropped 8/27/1996.
I didn't start any confusion. You were confused because you simply misread what I posted.
If it takes exposure to blow up, why are you saying Nicole Wray came out of nowhere. I know you never heard of Virginia Williams. Why do you think I posted the link? I mentioned Virginia because she's a better vocalist who had Timbaland producing and Missy writing. You claimed anyone would've blown with that combo. She didn't.
Nicole Wray had a single that went to #5 on the Hot 100 in the 90's. She had good promo. She had a follow-up single that went nowhere in the Fall of '98.
Aaliyah had two double platinum albums before she died. You're bringing up sales, yet you said you're a culture guy.


man im done with you. thats why i put my response to you at the bottom. cuz this is some bottom of the barrell chit.

youre just continuing to talk in circles, casually ignore chit and move goal-posts.

her leading in that one lane doesnt seperate chit. all it shows is that her music(mainly the beats) appealed to soul-less cats who just dip & dab in r&b. thats really not a positive on her resume at all.

of course my posts come with backhanded statements. i keep it 100. im the realest poster on this board by far. not to sound cliche, but its the truth.

sounds like missy is just proppin up her girl. she had bigger records out at the time.........records that she dropped verses for, on top of that.

who cares when aaliyah's album was released? you were talking about the song. not the album. the song didnt make an impact until later on in the year. stop trying to move the goal-posts on the slick. im too smart for that. show me some respect.

nicole wray did not get good promotion. stop it. and this virginia williams chick never even put anything out. man are you that desperate?

when did i bring up sales? what are you even talking about?
 
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:usure: about that?

hate to break it to yall but:
ciara's influence, impact & popularity amongst girls/teens/young women in the '00s >>>>>>>>>>> aalyiah's in the '90s.

yall basing yall whole perspective on '90s boyhood nostalgia, which is a faulty perspective & has absolutely no bearing.:laugh:




thanks for exposing your faulty logic.

but theres no need for you to do that. we already know you have a thing for petite light-skinned women.



thanks for coming.

youve just officially eliminated yourself from this debate.




and extra special thanks for this comment, which i dapped you for.

i knew that before your 5th post, you would have already agreed with the opposing side and killed off your own comrades in a botched attempt of friendly-fire.

you str8 chased that one cat out of here before i could even respond to him.:myman:


:russ: I thought that nikka was a junkie or someshyt? This ain't the first time he done that?
 

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:russ: I thought that nikka was a junkie or someshyt? This ain't the first time he done that?


lol.

thats why i fux with mel, cuz he keeps it real, even if he ruins his own argument.

dude been around the block too many times and knows too much. i knew it wouldnt be long until he started arguing against his fellow aaliyah supporters.

he is somewhat of a headcase tho. and hes kinda out of his jurisdiction on this topic too.:laugh: but its all good.
 

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I disagree with that, but even then I never said she wasn't a legend. When I said hot I mean popular not necessarily a flash in the plan or a novelty.

Aaliyah was very popular, Just not an icon or a defining artist of her time/era, just like ciara.

Example

TLC=90's Icons
Aaliyah=Popular/Hot artist during the 90's

Beyonce=00's Icon
Ciara=Popular/Hot Artist during the 00's

Get it?

TLC would kind of all into the same mold as Aaliyah, just more popular. A 90's icon would be Mariah Carey especially if you're going to use the Beyonce as an 00's icon.

Ciara was only on for like 2-4 years out of last decade to even register on the same playing field as Aaliyah. Aaliyah was active nearly the entire seven years of her career. 5-6 of those years were in the 90's.
 

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:scusthov:

i see that the premise of this thread went WAY OVER your head.



youre killing your own argument with that "timbo put it down" chit.

and i dont know why youre calling out dr dolittle as being corny, cuz "are you that somebody" was just as corn. it fit the soundtrack perfectly. i mean, i liked the song too but cmon dun.



:why:

man thats not aaliyah's image. that was just aaliyah hoppin on the bandwagon of what everybody else was already wearing.

the only thing she had going that was original was when she started rockin the tall leather jackets. str8 looking like the female sidekick of a late '90s era sting.



:comeon:

youre just making stuff up on the fly, and you seem to be proud of it.




LOL @ rock the boat.

LOL.





so according to you, the OP is going against the grain because hes not a brainless sheep that swallows whatever bullchit the media tells him to think? WOW.

what longevity did aaliyah have over ciara? they were both hot for 2 albums. the only difference is that aaliyah went on hiatuses between albums, as opposed to ciara who dropped her joints in a more timely fashion.

and not that it matters(since we're supposed to be talking music) but lol @ you trying to hype up aaliyah's movies, then having the audacity to downplay brandy's acting career in the next sentence.:facepalm:




man im done with you. thats why i put my response to you at the bottom. cuz this is some bottom of the barrell chit.

youre just continuing to talk in circles, casually ignore chit and move goal-posts.

her leading in that one lane doesnt seperate chit. all it shows is that her music(mainly the beats) appealed to soul-less cats who just dip & dab in r&b. thats really not a positive on her resume at all.

of course my posts come with backhanded statements. i keep it 100. im the realest poster on this board by far. not to sound cliche, but its the truth.

sounds like missy is just proppin up her girl. she had bigger records out at the time.........records that she dropped verses for, on top of that.

who cares when aaliyah's album was released? you were talking about the song. not the album. the song didnt make an impact until later on in the year. stop trying to move the goal-posts on the slick. im too smart for that. show me some respect.

nicole wray did not get good promotion. stop it. and this virginia williams chick never even put anything out. man are you that desperate?

when did i bring up sales? what are you even talking about?

You're the one moving goal posts. You're going out of your way to downplay Aaliyah. Who are you to say here fans are soul-less?

Backhanded statements isn't keeping it real. It's when a person disguises what's supposed to be a compliment with hate or dislike. It's basically hiding what you really mean.

Nicole Wray got good promo. Her album had three singles accompanied with videos. "Make It Hot", "I Can't See", and "Eyes Better Not Wander" were all singles. I also remember her appearing on The Wayans Bros. as a part of Elektra's promo of them putting several of their artists on popular primetime WB shows.

When did you bring up sales? You said "as opposed to aalliyah who ive seen get non-stop, over-the-top promotion for a year with only a 1x platinum plaque to show for it".
 

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lol.

thats why i fux with mel, cuz he keeps it real, even if he ruins his own argument.

dude been around the block too many times and knows too much. i knew it wouldnt be long until he started arguing against his fellow aaliyah supporters.

he is somewhat of a headcase tho. and hes kinda out of his jurisdiction on this topic too.:laugh: but its all good.

put together a top 10 ciara playlist bruh...................:comeon:
 
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