A Wiseman Told Me Never Argue With Fools: Official 2021 Warriors Season Thread

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They're in a tough spot because they know the Lakers can only bring back Dwight or DMC and they're trying to poach the one who can hurt the Lakers the most but also help their own team. Problem is he'd cost the MLE most likely which you'd prefer to use on a veteran wing:francis:
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These dumbass trainers stay messing with these kids shots smh
 

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They're in a tough spot because they know the Lakers can only bring back Dwight or DMC and they're trying to poach the one who can hurt the Lakers the most but also help their own team. Problem is he'd cost the MLE most likely which you'd prefer to use on a veteran wing:francis:


Again, I want Wiseman, but this is interesting:




Mid-Level huh :ohhh:
 

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They're in a tough spot because they know the Lakers can only bring back Dwight or DMC and they're trying to poach the one who can hurt the Lakers the most but also help their own team. Problem is he'd cost the MLE most likely which you'd prefer to use on a veteran wing:francis:
I guess the trade exemption gives them some flexibility if they use it
 

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I guess the trade exemption gives them some flexibility if they use it
Yeah that's the thing tho, I don't believe they wanna use it. If they do they def won't use all of it and there aren't alot of cheap-ish wings they can get without being in luxury tax hell next season.
 

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Yeah that's the thing tho, I don't believe they wanna use it. If they do they def won't use all of it and there aren't alot of cheap-ish wings they can get without being in luxury tax hell next season.
We have to wait on that though, I believe there will be luxury tax relief next season
 
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The Warriors entire system is based on pace and space.
:dwillhuh:

Wait, what?

How the fukk are you coming out and saying this, after I've been reiterating this very point to you as to why Wiseman on this squad makes the least amount of sense?
The idea that Embiid who is constantly injured or out of shape is suddenly gonna come to the Warriors and correct those things is asinine.
The idea is that since Embiid has dealt with a severe, crippling workload of carrying a squad where a lack of spacing and an overreliance on creating his own offense, as if he were in a strait-jacket on every offensive possession, because his co-star's existence is quite literally ignored when he's outside the paint, is that with space that would expand past the Milky Way, would lead to not only less wear and tear on his body (allowing him to play more games and distribute his energy more evenly), not only to being infinitely more efficient and consistent, but it would make the Warriors offense unstoppable.

Embiid on this squad would be a literal nightmare for the league.



Imagine defenses worrying about Steph and Klay bombing way from behind the arc, and Embiid capitalizing on this just as Durant did. It would be unfair.
How you comfortable committing 30+ million to a big man whose ball dominant and that would require giving up your starting SF and at least 2 lottery picks to get him instead of keeping those picks, Wiggins, and giving the 19 yr old 10 million a year to be a 5th option?
Because here's the thing: this core, as is, has a finite, dwindling window, whose expiration will be within the next 2-3 seasons, and that's being generous. A relevance that would span an entire decade, which would have only been replicated by the Spurs with Duncan/Parker/Manu, in the modern era. It is why it's with the utmost importance that the Warriors make these least few seasons count, and they push all their chips in. Taking a gamble on a generational player like Embiid that would give this squad an unparalleled advantage, is worth whatever they'd need to give up in order to fulfill that.

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Odds are that the Warriors will round out their center rotation in free agency. If Anthony Edwards is unavailable at No. 2, I think Golden State will try to trade back to the 5-8 range and take Devin Vassell, Deni Avdija or Tyrese Haliburton.

Should the Warriors not get an enticing trade offer, I could see them staying at No. 2 and selecting Avdija. League sources believe Golden State loves his upside as a point-forward type. Vassell and Haliburton would also get serious consideration, though. Contrary to popular opinion, the Warriors almost certainly won’t take James Wiseman or LaMelo Ball at No. 2.

Later on, he includes:

I still believe that, if Minnesota decides to pass on Edwards at No. 1, the Warriors will probably take him No. 2. The concerns about his efficiency and effort are legitimate, but he’s a world-class athlete who has a chance to be a perennial All-Star.
Hopefully, we can move on from this Wiseman shyt now.

:unimpressed:

Edwards has some red flags (that would be mitigated being on this squad), but I don't mind the prospect of him on this team, considering he would fit right in with the Warriors' identity and is the ideal size for today's climate.

A small-ball lineup of:

Steph
Edwards
Klay
Wiggins
Dray

:wow:
 

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:dwillhuh:

Wait, what?

How the fukk are you coming out and saying this, after I've been reiterating this very point to you as to why Wiseman on this squad makes the least amount of sense?

The idea is that since Embiid has dealt with a severe, crippling workload of carrying a squad where a lack of spacing and an overreliance on creating his own offense, as if he were in a strait-jacket on every offensive possession, because his co-star's existence is quite literally ignored when he's outside the paint, is that with space that would expand past the Milky Way, would lead to not only less wear and tear on his body (allowing him to play more games and distribute his energy more evenly), not only to being infinitely more efficient and consistent, but it would make the Warriors offense unstoppable.

Embiid on this squad would be a literal nightmare for the league.



Imagine defenses worrying about Steph and Klay bombing way from behind the arc, and Embiid capitalizing on this just as Durant did. It would be unfair.

Because here's the thing: this core, as is, has a finite, dwindling window, whose expiration will be within the next 2-3 seasons, and that's being generous. A relevance that would span an entire decade, which would have only been replicated by the Spurs with Duncan/Parker/Manu, in the modern era. It is why it's with the utmost importance that the Warriors make these least few seasons count, and they push all their chips in. Taking a gamble on a generational player like Embiid that would give this squad an unparalleled advantage, is worth whatever they'd need to give up in order to fulfill that.

:hubie:


Agreed. Embiid with Steph and Klay as his shooters would be crazy.

they can’t double Embiid and leave Steph and Klay open because they’d hit 3 after 3 and if they double either Steph or Klay they can just dump it to Embiid for the easy bucket inside

Embiid was deadly when Philly had shooters so imagine him with generational shooters:whew:
 

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Hopefully, we can move on from this Wiseman shyt now.

:unimpressed:

Edwards has some red flags (that would be mitigated being on this squad), but I don't mind the prospect of him on this team, considering he would fit right in with the Warriors' identity and is the ideal size for today's climate.

A small-ball lineup of:

Steph
Edwards
Klay
Wiggins
Dray

:wow:


Small ball won’t beat the Lakers. We saw that 3 times this year. They need a big. Steal Dwight Howard or get Embiid
 
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Small ball won’t beat the Lakers. We saw that 3 times this year. They need a big. Steal Dwight Howard or get Embiid
Well, considering that Dwight was unplayable for the majority of the playoffs due to opposition small-ball lineups, it looks like Embiid is the only alternative.

:mjgrin:

And I got to say, I don't like this mentality of having to mirror other teams; fukk what the Lakers are doing. Warriors made their mark and will continue to do so operating on their own terms. The league has tried to copycat what the Warriors are/were doing, now it's up to the Warriors to come up with some new shyt to get ahead again.

Getting someone like Embiid would break the game, again, and force every other squad to play catch-up.

Light-years and all that.

:manny:
 
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