A Wiseman Told Me Never Argue With Fools: Official 2021 Warriors Season Thread

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Going small with bron and ad on the court still isn’t going small in my opinion
Bron is 6'9 and basically a power forward. AD is 6'10 and can play center and defend the perimeter. The only person who gives AD issues is Joel Embiid cause he's physical with him. KAT a little too.

Embiid: 7'0, 7-6 wingspan, 280 pounds
KAT: 6'11, 7-4 wingspan, 250 pounds
Wiseman: 7'1. 7-6 wingspan, 240 pounds

We gonna pick Deni tho:mjlol:
 

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Bron is 6'9 and basically a power forward. AD is 6'10 and can play center and defend the perimeter. The only person who gives AD issues is Joel Embiid cause he's physical with him. KAT a little too.

Embiid: 7'0, 7-6 wingspan, 280 pounds
KAT: 6'11, 7-4 wingspan, 250 pounds
Wiseman: 7'1. 7-6 wingspan, 240 pounds

We gonna pick Deni tho:mjlol:
 

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Wiggins averaged a little more than 19 ppg on just about 16 shots when he joined the Warriors. Had 17 blocks and 16 steals in 12 games. In the 18 games before that he had 8 blocks and 11 steals.

He's gonna be a beast playing next to Steph and Klay:wow:

He's a worse shooting Paul George who knows his role
 
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Bron is 6'9 and basically a power forward. AD is 6'10 and can play center and defend the perimeter. The only person who gives AD issues is Joel Embiid cause he's physical with him. KAT a little too.

Embiid: 7'0, 7-6 wingspan, 280 pounds
KAT: 6'11, 7-4 wingspan, 250 pounds
Wiseman: 7'1. 7-6 wingspan, 240 pounds

We gonna pick Deni tho:mjlol:
It's all fine and well listing Wiseman's physical measurements, but at the end of the day, he'll be a 19-year-old project who has a raw skillset, questionable motor and defensive IQ. Expecting him to not only play significant minutes in the playoffs, but also being able to contain AD in his first couple of years is unrealistic.
Dunleavy and Kerr wanna load up on switchable wings tho....:mjlol:

We gonna be weak in the middle and get beat up come playoff time:francis:
Hoping for Wiseman to be the answer to this come next postseason is operating on a wing and a prayer. No good looking at the draft to fix the potential size issues in the frontcourt; Draymond and established bigs will be the formula to solving that. Not to mention, Draymond will probably end up playing the 5 in pivotal lineups in the postseason too, regardless of who they draft/sign.

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It's all fine and well listing Wiseman's physical measurements, but at the end of the day, he'll be a 19-year-old project who has a raw skillset, questionable motor and defensive IQ. Expecting him to not only play significant minutes in the playoffs, but also being able to contain AD in his first couple of years is unrealistic.

Hoping for Wiseman to be the answer to this come next postseason is operating on a wing and a prayer. No good looking at the draft to fix the potential size issues in the frontcourt; Draymond and established bigs will be the formula to solving that. Not to mention, Draymond will probably end up playing the 5 in pivotal lineups in the postseason too, regardless of who they draft/sign.

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Any who are these hypothetical big men your talking about? We already know they need a another big preferably a vet even if they draft wiseman
 
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Going small with bron and ad on the court still isn’t going small in my opinion
It is when you take into account that Dwight and McGee aren't in the lineups.

Bron/Rondo/Caruso
Danny/KCP
KCP/Bron/Danny/Morris
Morris/Bron/Kuzma
AD

AD just gives them the luxury of still being able to keep a size advantage. Unless the Warriors manage to trade/sign for a stretch 5, it's pointless trying to match that size because it'll only come at a detriment to both ends of the floor. They'll have to counter it by other means.
 

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It is when you take into account that Dwight and McGee aren't in the lineups.

Bron/Rondo/Caruso
Danny/KCP
KCP/Bron/Danny/Morris
Morris/Bron/Kuzma
AD

AD just gives them the luxury of still being able to keep a size advantage. Unless the Warriors manage to trade/sign for a stretch 5, it's pointless trying to match that size because it'll only come at a detriment to both ends of the floor. They'll have to counter it by other means.
I mean loney and Chris?
 
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Any who are these hypothetical big men your talking about? We already know they need a another big preferably a vet even if they draft wiseman
They've already got Looney and Chriss, and adding someone like Baynes would round out the frontcourt nicely.
I mean loney and Chris?
All dependent on Looney developing an outside shot and/or Draymond finding his shot again. I don't think you can run a small-ball lineup with Draymond/Looney unless at least one of them can make teams pay from behind the arc.
 

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It's all fine and well listing Wiseman's physical measurements, but at the end of the day, he'll be a 19-year-old project who has a raw skillset, questionable motor and defensive IQ. Expecting him to not only play significant minutes in the playoffs, but also being able to contain AD in his first couple of years is unrealistic.

Hoping for Wiseman to be the answer to this come next postseason is operating on a wing and a prayer. No good looking at the draft to fix the potential size issues in the frontcourt; Draymond and established bigs will be the formula to solving that. Not to mention, Draymond will probably end up playing the 5 in pivotal lineups in the postseason too, regardless of who they draft/sign.

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DeAndre Ayton averaged 16 and 10 as a rookie. Is it beyond the realm of reality to think Wiseman could do the same?
 
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DeAndre Ayton averaged 16 and 10 as a rookie. Is it beyond the realm of reality to think Wiseman could do the same?
For all of Ayton's offensive prowess (he's significantly more polished on offense than Wiseman is at the same age), he was legitimately one of the worst defensive bigs in his rookie season. The Suns were going through a rebuilding period that season too, so he had a longer leash, one that won't be afforded to someone like Wiseman.

Even if the Warriors do draft Wiseman, it's hard to see any scenario where he ends up playing a pivotal role with the spacing restrictions that Draymond and he will have in lineups. It's partly the reason why they're targetting versatile wings because they can't afford to have redundancy on the court with two players (Draymond + x-big man) who aren't reliable shooters. EDIT: And it's why I like the potential fit of someone like Deni, because he's 6-10 and has shown the potential and work ethic to shoot lights out. That's the type of player the Warriors need to make the most of their current window.
 
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It's all fine and well listing Wiseman's physical measurements, but at the end of the day, he'll be a 19-year-old project who has a raw skillset, questionable motor and defensive IQ. Expecting him to not only play significant minutes in the playoffs, but also being able to contain AD in his first couple of years is unrealistic.

Hoping for Wiseman to be the answer to this come next postseason is operating on a wing and a prayer. No good looking at the draft to fix the potential size issues in the frontcourt; Draymond and established bigs will be the formula to solving that. Not to mention, Draymond will probably end up playing the 5 in pivotal lineups in the postseason too, regardless of who they draft/sign.

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It's not at all. You need 20-25 minutes of an athletic, physical big who can guard the paint. Even in the playoffs that's not asking too much. He's the best talent available in this draft that also fills a need. Your other options are Hassan Whiteside, Nerlens Noel, and maybe Dwight Howard. 2 of those players might cost you the MLE. You tryna use that on one of those guys are a wing who can play the 3-4 in the 4th so Dray can play the 5?

In crunch time Dray or Looney will be at the 5 and they'll be enough to bother AD a little. They need a guy who can something on the offensive end early and also just matchup physically.

Draymond is not a 82 game player anymore. He's barely a 60 game player. You can't count on Looney being healthy, Chriss is nice but undersized. You need a player who can become a rim protector early and give you a physically presence to matchup against other bigs in the league.

Also AD was thought of as Marcus Camby-lite when he came into the league. Just a defensive player basically. 2nd year in the league he was 20/10. Same thing with Dwight Howard. There's nothing stopping Wiseman from doing the same.
 
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