A Discussion on The Left & The Working Class

Which 3 policies to win back the working class


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I mean, I gotta read the whole thread but any clown in here pointing fingers at progressives or Bernie Sanders is saying
their real feelings.

As in they don't take issue with ANYTHING and don't give a fukk about ANYONE'S GRIEVANCES.

That's the unspoken part, they think everything is "Fine" and we just need to "Get with the program" and "Listen to the adults in the room".

IF we can START THERE with THAT level of honesty then sincere discussions can be had, however you can't talk to the guy who high key feels
some people deserve a boot on their neck simply for trying to vote their way out of their adverse material conditions because the one "left" (Center
right) party won't even try to pay lip service to anything about $$$ or the working class.
 

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I mean, I gotta read the whole thread but any clown in here pointing fingers at progressives or Bernie Sanders is saying
their real feelings.

As in they don't take issue with ANYTHING and don't give a fukk about ANYONE'S GRIEVANCES.

That's the unspoken part, they think everything is "Fine" and we just need to "Get with the program" and "Listen to the adults in the room".

IF we can START THERE with THAT level of honesty then sincere discussions can be had, however you can't talk to the guy who high key feels
some people deserve a boot on their neck simply for trying to vote their way out of their adverse material conditions because the one "left" (Center
right) party won't even try to pay lip service to anything about $$$ or the working class.
“Listen to the idiots"

Got it.
 

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I see that you're saying, but Dems, liberals, progressives, Leftists have a major problem.

The "working class" doesn't have class consciousness.

Moreover, much like Latinos*, that aspect of their identity doesn't dominate their thoughts, much less their political thoughts.

*Unlike 85% of Black people, who are reminded of and kept down because of Blackness constantly and consistently, world wide.

LBJ/FDR type Democrats lost to Nixon/Reagan etc because "workers" have other "concerns". The New Deal and the Great Society, and those types of programs.

In the 80s, it was Communism. Then it was abortion. Now "wokeism". But honestly it's still a lot of anti Black racism.

Things that are good for workers, don't win elections.

Under Biden, wages went up ...

That’s not completely accurate, Nixon wins due to the death of RFK. RFK was running on a left wing anti-war populist agenda and he was primed to win the dem nomination and ultimately the presidency. Even with that win Nixon was experimenting with UBI, he created the epa, created title ix, those are all things those on the left support and defend. What kills LBJ was the Vietnam war. If he doesn’t double down on it he easily wins re-election in 68. A lot of those programs are defending by the working class regardless of race, go talk to an old white person about cutting social security and watch how quickly they turn into FDR.

You are right wages went up under Biden but did not outpace inflation so no one felt they made any headway. There is a class consciousness in the working class race just supersedes it nine times out of ten but it does exist.
 

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