A comprehensive guide to the origin/roots of HipHop's elements (all verified facts w/ OG interviews)
- Thread starter IllmaticDelta
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In light of the r recent Fat Joe comments, again I’m confronted with so many people who actually believe that Hip Hop was started by Latinos in NYC and some who believe was started by Jamaicans.
As a hip hop site this should either be stickied in the booth if not the locker room, these are one of the few sites who are able to help with battling a well misplaced narrative, mods can sticky albums and all sorts of other shyt but none of that is as important as informative as this thread which actually breaks down the origin of the genre for why were all here posting in the first place, we can’t allow this type of thread to just die and not constantly be in the front page for even visitors who don’t post here to see, it’s important, even Wikipedia page doesn’t go into the detail this thread does.
As a hip hop site this should either be stickied in the booth if not the locker room, these are one of the few sites who are able to help with battling a well misplaced narrative, mods can sticky albums and all sorts of other shyt but none of that is as important as informative as this thread which actually breaks down the origin of the genre for why were all here posting in the first place, we can’t allow this type of thread to just die and not constantly be in the front page for even visitors who don’t post here to see, it’s important, even Wikipedia page doesn’t go into the detail this thread does.
IllmaticDelta
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One of Drake's Southern fam, with that slick talk in the 1960s
K.O.N.Y
Superstar
Read through the thread first
It's true though.. Both a young boy gameRead through the thread first
Not much difference between these two, our cultures all run in tandem, children of the diaspora, it's deep.
You might be white tho so my bad.
The Gentleman
Always a Gentleman!
The rapping portion of hip hop comes from toasting. Toasting was a part hustling culture aka the Sportin’ life from the early 20th century to about that hip hop began to form in the 70s. Some overlap could be there but it’s minimal.
Do ADOS over do it with the "everybody steals from us we invented everything in America "thing
He'll naw... we don't over do it. All them muthafukkas copy off of us... the Asians, Mexicans, them weird UK muthafukkas, Africans ect...
All them muthafukka hate us or look down at us but at the same time copy us and try to act, dress, dance, talk ect... like us.
He'll naw... we don't over do it. All them muthafukkas copy off of us... the Asians, Mexicans, them weird UK muthafukkas, Africans ect...
All them muthafukka hate us or look down at us but at the same time copy us and try to act, dress, dance, talk ect... like us.
K.O.N.Y
Superstar
I misread your post so my bad
edit- or maybe I didn’t
Are you saying Jamaican R&b runs deep?
K.O.N.Y
Superstar
We pushed for this
they had it stickied for like a week then dropped it
to be honest a lot of nikkas are scared of this thread
but yes it should have a permanent sticky
who are the mods that can make that happen
IllmaticDelta
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As I explained before, what would become Jamaican dancehall (as a musical movement evolved from Toasting) and Rap have the same origins: Black American Radio DJs from the 1940s and their slick talking that came from Jive-Talk that was also a basic part of everyday Southern-based, Afram musical culture via jazz and blues slang
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early hiphop and early dancehall culture diverge in non-musical aesthetics because HipHop represented the lives of urban-ghetto teens of NYC who would/cold be part of gangs, graffiti crews and bboys
dancehall as a culture came out of a more young adult atmosphere which was reflected in the "slackness" element
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K.O.N.Y
Superstar
K.O.N.Y
Superstar
yea he did that
its not just the rhyming
the beat is actually hip hop
IllmaticDelta
Veteran
yea he did that
its not just the rhyming
the beat is actually hip hop
how that connects rap and the deejay of dancehall back to jazz via scat vocals
all the way back to:
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IllmaticDelta
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I touched on the proto-hiphop roots and the official early years of hiphop out West in this post
A comprehensive guide to the origin/roots of HipHop's elements (all verified facts w/ OG interviews)