ProlificLurker
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Agree with all of this. The young guards need all the help they can get
A Blown Knee & Flat Tires-Another NY Pothole Year: 17-18 Knicks Season Thread
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Agree with all of this. The young guards need all the help they can get
Daniel.
BK to NJ, but always a New York Knicka
In the context that he's older and at this point is either -
Eating up time that could be used for off the ball time for Frank.
Development time for Dotson.
Playing the 3.
Backing up at the 3.
Yes, I'd say it is.
GetInTheTruck
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Jeff Hornacek’s incompetence really can’t be stressed enough.
So Mudiay and Frank played 28 minutes together against the Pacers and looked good together. Everyone’s buzzing and excited and wants to see more of the duo. It made sense to just start both of them (why not?) and/or maximize the amount of time the two are on the court together.
Instead he stars Lance for no reason whatsoeverand brings Courtney Lee off the bench for the first time this season.
This just adds another SG to the bench rotation. So Mudiay comes in at the 6 min mark of the first and Frank comes in a minute later. They play the final 5 minutes of the 1st quarter together, the only minutes they shared the court together.
The team is on a 7 game losing streak and is 6-22 over the last 28 games and he STILL is refusing to play the young players. He lost Willy. Dotson is still warming the bench. Kornet got a double double in his first NBA game and he barely is off he bench the next 2 games. Frank’s minutes are constantly messed around with like Hornacek is intentionally trying to sabotaging any momentum he has.
Lance has a worse PER than Frank yet he has started 22 games this year.
Not only is he a shytty coach but he’s destroying the development of the youngsters, which is even worse. He needs to be fired before he does any more damage.
he started lance to match up better with simmons....which is ok but we trying to lose games, not win, lol.
seemorecizzy
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u guys really want frank or mudiay playing the 2
what a pathetic team
what a pathetic team
Daniel.
BK to NJ, but always a New York Knicka
u guys really want frank or mudiay playing the 2
what a pathetic team
To see if he can excel? Sure.
The benefit of having these two is experimentation. This isn't an offensively inept Marbury/Francis situation, this is just to see where they fall and can they perform. In this positionless league it's not farfetched.
storyteller
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u guys really want frank or mudiay playing the 2
what a pathetic team
You do realize that the Knicks most successful season in the past decade was with a two PG set right?
JMurder
SOHH Member since 01...
None of that has to do with his contract....
No one values a contract based on any of the things you mentioned
seemorecizzy
Superstar
bro mudiay is a bottom of the barrell pg
frank is a unknown
neither of them should be playing the 2
seemorecizzy
Superstar
completely different team, completely different time manno other team in the nba is starting 2 point guards in their backcourt (and dont even say houston because harden is a sg naturally)
especially 2 point guards that cant shoot for shyt
its a dumb idea
and just a way to try and solve a self-inflicted log jam at pg
storyteller
Superstar
no other team in the nba is starting 2 point guards in their backcourt (and dont even say houston because harden is a sg naturally)
especially 2 point guards that cant shoot for shyt
its a dumb idea
and just a way to try and solve a self-inflicted log jam at pg
It's a tank, get the young guys minutes and don't sweat the scores at the end of games. Anyway, it's not like Frank can't work as a combo guard. He's shooting 39.6% on catch and shoot three's and played offball in Europe quite a bit. Easy to go HAM after they looked awful last night, but they showed flashes of real potential literally one night earlier and I don't see how anyone could deny that.
seemorecizzy
Superstar
getting the young guys minutes is not enough
you have to put that in a position to succeed
frank was out there for 21 minutes yesterday and did not get a point or a assist
those are meaningless minutes
knicks drafted frank to be a point guard. let him start at point guard for the rest of the season
have mudiay be his back up point guard, he is not a shooting guard
its real simple shyt here
u guys really want frank or mudiay playing the 2
what a pathetic team
Knicks will trade Frank by 2020
seemorecizzy
Superstar
I wouldnt be shocked
Daniel.
BK to NJ, but always a New York Knicka
You asked someone if they thought the contract is bad.
I interjected and said yes and stated the reasons why I thought it was bad.
Your response is to say that my criteria for what is bad is not shared by others.
What exactly are you asking then, bruh?
I think a contract is bad within the context it exists. If youre paying someone 12 mill a year to operate out of position at the 3, I think that's bad value on the contract.
If you're paying someone 12 mil a year to play a position that they're best at, but in doing so, they're eating away at time that could be spent on cheaper prospects with potential when you're in the middle of a tank and have no realistic playoff aspirations I think that's bad value on the contract, within that context.
If you're asking if the contract is bad within the context of the league, no, it's not bad within the context of the league, but that doesn't mean shyt to me within the scope of the team becausethe rest ofthe leagueis not strungup ona contract for a guy not in our future. The Knicks are.
If you're asking if the contract is objectively bad, well, that's a deep ass conversation on a metaphysical level that I wasn't prepared to come across, let alone interject my 2 cents on.
So again, I ask - what exactly were you asking?
LinusCaldwell
From The Eastside with Love
Smell like L in this thread
