A Blown Knee & Flat Tires-Another NY Pothole Year: 17-18 Knicks Season Thread

[DPresidential]

F*ck these bum ass Knicks...

But yo, when's the last time there was a Knicks meet up? We should link up in midtown for one of the Boston games. There's one next Wednesday and another one Saturday 2/24. Or a Friday night game could work

I'd be down for that.

It would be weird, I'd want to post something after every play but brehs would be right there. Lol

 

[storyteller]

https://nypost.com/2018/01/28/rest-of-nba-thinks-its-time-for-knicks-to-start-selling/

REST OF NBA THINKS IT'S TIME FOR KNICKS TO START SELLING - by Fred Kerber

The NBA trade deadline arrives one week from Thursday, so there remains roughly a week and a half for rumor mongers to enjoy the most wonderful time of their year.

So for a week and a half, teams must decide to either buy, sell or stand pat in what could be an active trade session. Entering Sunday, there were 14 teams — eight in the East, six in the West — with, as one exec put it, “20-something wins and 20-something losses within 8 ¹/₂ games of each other.” So there are many teams who are close to being playoff teams — or think they are.

Enter the Knicks. Should they buy or sell?

In a survey of a group of opposing executives and scouts, most felt the Knicks should continue building and sell at the deadline while collecting assets.

“They exceeded expectations based on a home-heavy schedule to start the season and did a nice job, but I never thought they were a playoff team,” one opposing exec said. “Is the goal to try to create cap space for this summer or are you trying to get a draft pick back also? That’s hard because there’s not many teams willing to trade picks.”

Still sell, right?

Not necessarily.

“Depending on the cost, I would try to make the playoffs,” said another opposing team official. “Obviously keep the core assets [Kristaps Porzingis, Tim Hardaway Jr. and Frank Ntilikina] together and make a move to get in the playoffs. But I would not under any circumstance trade the first-round pick.”

Almost to a man, the executives and scouts voiced one sentiment: Start and play Ntilikina.

“I’d play the rookie. Jarrett Jack would get about eight minutes,” one exec said.

“I thought this year was all about trying to get to see if the rookie [Ntilikina] could be a starting-quality point guard down the road. … They should [play him 30 minutes], at least post All-Star,” an Eastern exec said. “If you’re not going to make the playoffs, yeah that should be the direction.”

Most stressed the sudden emergence of Trey Burke should not impact the process.

“Burke’s doing well for them, but to me that’s New York anointing him early. Early exuberance. Can’t we wait for a better sample than like two games?” one exec said, offering Burke’s 6-foot-1 size as the biggest drawback.

So what should the Knicks do on the trade front?

“There are two guys on their team that are available that people would want: Jack and [Kyle] O’Quinn,” one veteran scout said. “If they deal O’Quinn that gives [Willy] Hernangomez an opportunity. If they deal Jack, you’ve still got Frank and Trey, two young guys, to play the point.”

Another tempting name is Courtney Lee.

“Courtney Lee has had a helluva year, a terrific year. But is he the future? By the time the Knicks are good, he’s not going to be anything for them,” one opposing official said.

As for possible returns, the answers varied. But most felt the Knicks could get picks, even when picks are being hoarded.

For Jack, one said “maybe a second-rounder,” while another doubted he could be traded. A third said a team looking for veteran point guard depth, like Washington, or Cleveland eyeing a cheaper alternative to George Hill, might give a second-rounder.

For O’Quinn, who has a $4.25 million player option next year, most saw the return from a team needing size (like Milwaukee) as a second-round pick, although one executive suggested “you might get a decent rotation player” for him.

Lee, most agreed, could fetch as much as a late, protected, first-rounder. The Thunder, in the wake of Andre Roberson’s injury could fit, although OKC is not likely to part with a pick.

All were virtually unanimous in the assessment that a deal for Joakim Noah is unlikely.

“Offer him a buyout. You’ve got to pay him, so see if you can pay him less,” one exec said. “There’s not a team in the league that’s going to take on that contract [more than two years left on a four-year, $72M deal] with his health issues and where he is in his career. To take on his contract, you’d have to give the No. 1 pick every other year for three years.”

 

[Cory MBA]

We're a G-League team brehs.

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

Y’all heard about porzingis pawg jen selter getting kicked off a plane?

 

[Illified infinitely]

Y’all heard about porzingis pawg jen selter getting kicked off a plane?

 

[Kitsch]

 

[No Homo]

Yall bout to get yall wish

 

[Cory MBA]

Yall bout to get yall wish

 

[Cory MBA]

His opinion is feather-weight at this point.

 

[Miles Davis]

Noah ain’t going nowhere, no one taking that contract without some crazy ass incentives.

 

[DPresidential]

We can't fault a competitive athlete for having this state of mind.

Leave that for purely X's and O's analytics fans and higher level executives.

Coaches, players, and entertainment fans shouldn't be faulted for wanting that.

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I'm so happy that is looks like Trey Burke is getting comfortable on our team. I've always been a fan of his and I like how he plays hungry.

I've become a big fan of Beasley, Burke, Kanter & McDermott - when the dust settles, I'd hope Beasley & Burke are still Knicks and Kanter & Lee are sent to teams that are competing for the playoffs.

If trades fall through, I'm excited for whatever the rest of the year looks like regardless.

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Now that housekeeping is handled,

Apparently, 24 year old Trey Burke is a potential target for a bench role PG/SG hybrid.

New York Knicks need to consider signing Trey Burke



What do you guys think of a reunion of fellow Michigan Alums Trey and Hardaway?

Keep in mind we have Frank, Sessions & Baker.

 

[Derek Lee]

fukk Phil Jackson

 

[Cory MBA]

We can't fault a competitive athlete for having this state of mind.

Leave that for purely X's and O's analytics fans and higher level executives.

Coaches, players, and entertainment fans shouldn't be faulted for wanting that.

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I'm so happy that is looks like Trey Burke is getting comfortable on our team. I've always been a fan of his and I like how he plays hungry.

I've become a big fan of Beasley, Burke, Kanter & McDermott - when the dust settles, I'd hope Beasley & Burke are still Knicks and Kanter & Lee are sent to teams that are competing for the playoffs.

If trades fall through, I'm excited for whatever the rest of the year looks like regardless.

True, organizations tank, players don't.

Management has to think long-term. If Kristaps can will his way into the playoffs, they can take orders. The situation is lacking in a major way at the moment.

 

[Kang Deezy]

Noah ain’t going nowhere, no one taking that contract without some crazy ass incentives.

Best thing they can do is just stretch him at this point

 

[RubioTheCruel]

Best thing they can do is just stretch him at this point

That's a horrible idea... he'd be on their cap till like 2024 then. Just bite the bullet and inactivate him the next 2 years.