A Blown Knee & Flat Tires-Another NY Pothole Year: 17-18 Knicks Season Thread
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That's a lot of road gamesJanuary is going to be brutal
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Heading into a soft five game stretch that ended tonight, I said the Knicks needed to make space for the awful road/home ratio to follow. But with THJ down and then KP out for the last game and a half, it was hard to envision the Knicks making some room for error. Fortune favors the bold however, and Michael Beasley is far from shy. OKC came in after a triple OT, nightmare travel schedule and a full season of "whose ISO is it anyway?" that left the door open for another Knicks W. Beasley was the offensive propellant, backed by Courtney Lee, Doug McDermott and surprise of the night Ron Baker. OKC's focus on isolations made it easy for the Knicks to dig in and even when they slept on back door cuts, it was just Roberson getting the ball in the paint...you've got like a 75/25 ratio of that working out for you anyway. We're approaching the sink or swim portion of the schedule now, where we'll find out if the Knicks are truly prepared for a playoff run or not. But the Knicks have given themselves a necessary cushion, with or without their stars. Ragnarok is approaching, but the Knicks have lined themselves up with a chance to hold off the onslaught of road games and tough teams in between. They'll likely need KP, but at least they showed for a night that they can give the kid a break and still show up to play.
SupercoolBeas: Michael Beasley ate his Wheaties last night, threw on the Black Thought freestyle with Funk Flex and proceeded to drop 30 pts on 11/18 shooting, 5 boards, 4 asts to 2 TO's and even added 2 blks in 38 minutes. He started the game locked in, knocking down threes then proceeded to score with a multi-faceted attack that even included passing. If Kanter's passing has been eye opening, Beasley last night was the machine from a Clockwork Orange. Defensively, there was less off ball action to confuse the guy and a lot more isolation that let him just defend. Were there dumb fouls? Of course there were. But he only had 3 fouls total in almost 4 times the minutes it took him to foul out a couple of games ago. He had his best game of the season right when we needed it.
Lee: Against wings like George and Roberson you can expect a dropoff in efficiency from your guys. Courtney Lee still managed 20 pts on 12 attempts to go with 5 boards, a pair of assists and a pair of steals. He did so by knocking down multiple three's and making his way to the free throw line. The captain was aggressive, even pulling an off the dribble three from well behind the three point line with Melo on him. It was that type of night for dude. He only tallied 12 FGA's but his play out there was the type of calculated attack that we've come to love from the guy this year. There wasn't a moment out there that he was guarding a tough assignment on the other end, but he held his own on virtually every play (besides the Russell Westbrook crossover to highlight reel dunk where he had no help at the rim).
Jack: With Frank Ntilikina in foul trouble most of the night, the Knicks leaned on Jarrett Jack for 35 minutes of output and he responded really well. Jack had 12 pts, 8 boards, 7 asts, 3 stls and 3 TO's in his time out there. Roberson's presence meant Jack always had a place to hide on defense as well. He didn't stand out from other guys that were shining, but he had more efficacy than most Knicks out there. This was a big performance right as Frank needed a pick me up.
Kanter: With Knicks Forwards going off and the Thunder down a center, Kanter only saw 23 total minutes out there. He added 10 pts, 5 boards and a pair of assists in that span. It wasn't the kind of game where he could put his fingerprints all over the place. He did alright.
Lance: Lance had the task of guarding Melo or PG3 on virtually every possession. Neither player had a good game. 6 pts, 2 boards, 1 ast for the co-captain in 25 minutes. His stat-lines never tell the whole story, but a couple more rebounds would certainly be nice.
Frank: Let's just pull the band-aid off on a pretty bad performance from Frank. He only got out there for 13 minutes and never got into much rhythm as he kept picking up needless, costly fouls. 1 board and 1 steal from Frank is all we got. I was really excited to see him lock horns with Russ for a while but it never manifested. There was a switch onto Paul George in which Frank showed no ill effects guarding a bigger, athletic forward but that was the one bright spot in an otherwise off night.
Baker: Is Ron Baker finding his jumper? 4/5 shooting including 3/4 from three point land to add 11 points on a night that the Knicks needed scoring wherever they could get it. He also added 2 asts, 2 stls and a rebound with 2 TO's but the real revelations were at the three point line. These weren't just corner trey's either. On defense, Ron had success even in periods where he switched to Paul George. On a night where the defense got the job done, you're bound to hear this kid get mentioned for his involvement. He's on the rise right now, hopefully he can keep it up.
McBuckets: Doug's 13 points last night felt like they came at the right times. 13, 1 and 1 in 32 minutes for Doug where it seemed like each of his 3 pointers electrified the crowd and helped bury the Thunder. OKC had stuck around and Russ slammed a dunk down only to have Doug reverse the momentum with a pair of long balls that put the game out of reach. It's been that kind of run for the guy. He's making some clutch plays, playing respectable defense and while his stat-lines don't blow you away his impact has been positive.
Kylo: Kyle O'Quinn from the beginning of the season has been back for three or so games in a row. Let's hope he can keep this up. 9 pts, 7 boards, 2 asts and 3 TO's. He's picking up for TO's as he plays more physically, especially setting screens. It can be frustrating, but an offensive foul usually means he'll be beating guys up on the glass all night. I did think he took a couple of minutes to get into the flow of things in this one but his impact got bigger and bigger with time. Dude had a Metta World Peace moment off a rebound, picking up a bad flagrant foul and he habitually tries to block shots with a swing that gets called for a foul...but that tough nose behavior sets a tone that leaves players acting a bit differently when he's nearby.
Hornacek: I don't like Beasley starting in general because of the strain it puts on the defense, but that was the right call on this one. As a matter of fact, it's pretty hard to complain about the Knicks coaching decisions when they outplayed OKC pretty much wire to wire. The guys that got minutes were productive, the guys that didn't play as much had good reason to see the bench. There weren't any tough decisions, but that's because Hornacek kept making the right decisions before a tough choice would ever be necessitated.
SupercoolBeas: Michael Beasley ate his Wheaties last night, threw on the Black Thought freestyle with Funk Flex and proceeded to drop 30 pts on 11/18 shooting, 5 boards, 4 asts to 2 TO's and even added 2 blks in 38 minutes. He started the game locked in, knocking down threes then proceeded to score with a multi-faceted attack that even included passing. If Kanter's passing has been eye opening, Beasley last night was the machine from a Clockwork Orange. Defensively, there was less off ball action to confuse the guy and a lot more isolation that let him just defend. Were there dumb fouls? Of course there were. But he only had 3 fouls total in almost 4 times the minutes it took him to foul out a couple of games ago. He had his best game of the season right when we needed it.
Lee: Against wings like George and Roberson you can expect a dropoff in efficiency from your guys. Courtney Lee still managed 20 pts on 12 attempts to go with 5 boards, a pair of assists and a pair of steals. He did so by knocking down multiple three's and making his way to the free throw line. The captain was aggressive, even pulling an off the dribble three from well behind the three point line with Melo on him. It was that type of night for dude. He only tallied 12 FGA's but his play out there was the type of calculated attack that we've come to love from the guy this year. There wasn't a moment out there that he was guarding a tough assignment on the other end, but he held his own on virtually every play (besides the Russell Westbrook crossover to highlight reel dunk where he had no help at the rim).
Jack: With Frank Ntilikina in foul trouble most of the night, the Knicks leaned on Jarrett Jack for 35 minutes of output and he responded really well. Jack had 12 pts, 8 boards, 7 asts, 3 stls and 3 TO's in his time out there. Roberson's presence meant Jack always had a place to hide on defense as well. He didn't stand out from other guys that were shining, but he had more efficacy than most Knicks out there. This was a big performance right as Frank needed a pick me up.
Kanter: With Knicks Forwards going off and the Thunder down a center, Kanter only saw 23 total minutes out there. He added 10 pts, 5 boards and a pair of assists in that span. It wasn't the kind of game where he could put his fingerprints all over the place. He did alright.
Lance: Lance had the task of guarding Melo or PG3 on virtually every possession. Neither player had a good game. 6 pts, 2 boards, 1 ast for the co-captain in 25 minutes. His stat-lines never tell the whole story, but a couple more rebounds would certainly be nice.
Frank: Let's just pull the band-aid off on a pretty bad performance from Frank. He only got out there for 13 minutes and never got into much rhythm as he kept picking up needless, costly fouls. 1 board and 1 steal from Frank is all we got. I was really excited to see him lock horns with Russ for a while but it never manifested. There was a switch onto Paul George in which Frank showed no ill effects guarding a bigger, athletic forward but that was the one bright spot in an otherwise off night.
Baker: Is Ron Baker finding his jumper? 4/5 shooting including 3/4 from three point land to add 11 points on a night that the Knicks needed scoring wherever they could get it. He also added 2 asts, 2 stls and a rebound with 2 TO's but the real revelations were at the three point line. These weren't just corner trey's either. On defense, Ron had success even in periods where he switched to Paul George. On a night where the defense got the job done, you're bound to hear this kid get mentioned for his involvement. He's on the rise right now, hopefully he can keep it up.
McBuckets: Doug's 13 points last night felt like they came at the right times. 13, 1 and 1 in 32 minutes for Doug where it seemed like each of his 3 pointers electrified the crowd and helped bury the Thunder. OKC had stuck around and Russ slammed a dunk down only to have Doug reverse the momentum with a pair of long balls that put the game out of reach. It's been that kind of run for the guy. He's making some clutch plays, playing respectable defense and while his stat-lines don't blow you away his impact has been positive.
Kylo: Kyle O'Quinn from the beginning of the season has been back for three or so games in a row. Let's hope he can keep this up. 9 pts, 7 boards, 2 asts and 3 TO's. He's picking up for TO's as he plays more physically, especially setting screens. It can be frustrating, but an offensive foul usually means he'll be beating guys up on the glass all night. I did think he took a couple of minutes to get into the flow of things in this one but his impact got bigger and bigger with time. Dude had a Metta World Peace moment off a rebound, picking up a bad flagrant foul and he habitually tries to block shots with a swing that gets called for a foul...but that tough nose behavior sets a tone that leaves players acting a bit differently when he's nearby.
Hornacek: I don't like Beasley starting in general because of the strain it puts on the defense, but that was the right call on this one. As a matter of fact, it's pretty hard to complain about the Knicks coaching decisions when they outplayed OKC pretty much wire to wire. The guys that got minutes were productive, the guys that didn't play as much had good reason to see the bench. There weren't any tough decisions, but that's because Hornacek kept making the right decisions before a tough choice would ever be necessitated.
Good analysis as always.
What do you think we should do with Hernangomez? We got a gem rotting on the bench
storyteller
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Good analysis as always.
What do you think we should do with Hernangomez? We got a gem rotting on the bench
I hate to give a lame answer but, I think we still wait. I'm still skeptical that we make it to late January with optimism because of the road to home game ratio coming up along with injuries. So they may still make room for Willy in the rotation (KOQ's opting out, it makes sense to move him if we're falling out of the playoff picture). That said, even if Willy has to ride the bench this whole season I'd keep him. Two seasons from now he'll be making 1.5 million dollars and at the very least. So dude can be the cheap off-setting contract to the albatross of Joakim Noah's deal. It sucks that he can't get burn now, but next season he probably will and we've got plenty of time to move dude. I'd hate to see us make a rush decision while his value is low too.
Wargames
One Of The Last Real Ones To Do It
Do we pay to keep Kanter brehs?
Futuristic Eskimo
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mbewane
Knicks: 93 til infinity
My Mom just said "Poor Melo, still losing at MSG."
im pissed i missed this game
That was me after the Lakers game
Do we pay to keep Kanter brehs?
I'd hate to see him go, obviously we all see what he brings to the table, he's still young and I like the combination with KP. Also, he has that energy and commitment to the team, hard to put value on that...
Anyways really good win, I kept waiting for the moment where we would have a series of
plays that would cost us the game but we kept at it 
No KP, no THJr, no problem 
GO NY GO NY GO
YepDo we pay to keep Kanter brehs?
He's only 25, pairs real well with KP, is a vocal leader that we need, gives his all every game, and told the team he'd pay the fines if they fight dudes.
He's earned it
Columbo
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Lets get one thing straight, im the alpha nikka round hereyou negged a post that was a direct shot at that "other bytch nykka" yet you don't wanna be confused with him ?
you initiated this conversation with "hold this neg fakkit" with that emotional ass neg you gave me yet you don't wanna be called a fakkit ?
shut the fukk up you confused ass melo lovin fakkit
What i say doesnt have to make sense, im a boss. Get your middle man petty crime ass up out of here before i get the duct tape and the broomstick
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Carolina Slim
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Do we pay to keep Kanter brehs?
He had me when he stepped to Bron and rude for our French son. Plus he's a niigga that you can get buckets from in the post when necessary, and he grabs boards.
