A Blown Knee & Flat Tires-Another NY Pothole Year: 17-18 Knicks Season Thread

[Liquid]

 

[seemorecizzy]

And, where is the OTHER talent that LeBron will want to play with come from? He didn't have time to wait on Andrew Wiggins, do you think he's going to wait on a 19 year old french PG, and whatever player you take in the 2018 draft?


Ok, you have Doug McDermott starting right now, and you could have Kevin Knox starting there next year, signing LeBron for a team like the Knicks makes absolutely no sense. It's honestly like you learned nothing from the Knicks over the last 10 years and how teams should be built.

im convinced some of you guys dont even want to win lol
you just wanna be right
any team in the league would take lebron in a heart beat
the point of rebuiliding is to be in a position to get players like lebron
which is why the lakers have a young team but have enough room for 2 max players this year
dont sit here and tell me u want some random draft pick that is looking like its gonna be outside of the top 10 over lebron fukking james man
yall dudes are too over the top

outside of kp and to a lesser note frank, everyone on this team is up for grabs

 

[Liquid]

With all due respect,

Unless you know something we don't know, you're literally making some very liberal assumptions.

You're talking in a way that would suggest you've literally b talked to Phil himself.

You're perspective is just hard to believe, Breh.

Phil was dropping hints and literally said it’s best for Melo to be on another team. That relationship soured the moment Melo resigned and it was clearly a bad move by BOTH parties.

 

[JMurder]

Cause he was actively trying to buy Melo out. From a business standpoint I agree, you gotta fire him for that. But just on some basketball shyt I gotta respect what he was trying to do.

So you think it was just that? You don't think the bad roster moves, the losing, the backlash from fans about Porzingis being potentially traded, and the insistence on using the triangle had anything to do with it?

 

[seemorecizzy]

He wasn't though. He has own way of getting in players heads. The really great ones use it as motivation and take their games to new levels, Jordan, Kobe, Shaq, and now seemingly KP....the ones not cut out for greatness can't hack it and get flustered....ie; Melo...who got ejected before OKC came back from a 17 point deficit after he left the game. Sound familiar?

KP was letting Melo's diva act influence him....Phil had to test his mettle real quick. You think you great enough to skip exit meetings? you not there yet, matta-fact lemme put you on the block real quick

Now KP come back looking like he ready to take over the damn league.

You dudes need to dig deeper.

son, he was trying to trade him lol
he made it known

 

[GetInTheTruck]

With all due respect,

Unless you know something we don't know, you're literally making some very liberal assumptions.

You're talking in a way that would suggest you've literally b talked to Phil himself.

You're perspective is just hard to believe, Breh.

You right, I don't know for sure, but I'm trying to think logically, independent of the media narrative....the same media that shytted on KP and Frank....the same media that hated Melo till Phil Jackson came along to play the role of villain. I'm taking everything into consideration and painting a picture based on that.

Before that Rosen article, I had speculated that Phil and Melo had some type of agreement before the resigning and the NTC, and that the perception from Phil's side was that Melo reneged on his side of the deal which laid the foundation for all the ugliness that came after....and it turned out that I wasn't far off.

Why is it hard to believe though? I know we loved to clown Phil for shyt like falling asleep during workouts, but do we really think that WE as fans had a better idea of KP's potential than Phil Jackson did? Are we seriously that deluded?

 

[GetInTheTruck]

So you think it was just that? You don't think the bad roster moves, the losing, the backlash from fans about Porzingis being potentially traded, and the insistence on using the triangle had anything to do with it?

Nah, cause Dolan is a businessman, he don't give a fukk about basketball. In his eyes Phil was asking too much after making an already bad financial decision. Dolan don't give a fukk about a triangle or circle offense. He cares about money.

 

[neph27]

I don't even want to play Bron ball. It would be fun but look what KP is doing. Let's see where we get with him as the franchise.

 

[Malta]

im convinced some of you guys dont even want to win lol
you just wanna be right
any team in the league would take lebron in a heart beat
the point of rebuiliding is to be in a position to get players like lebron
which is why the lakers have a young team but have enough room for 2 max players this year
dont sit here and tell me u want some random draft pick that is looking like its gonna be outside of the top 10 over lebron fukking james man
yall dudes are too over the top

outside of kp and to a lesser note frank, everyone on this team is up for grabs

No, people like you have absolutely no understanding of how things work, you probably thought using the Allan Houston amnesty on Billups to sign Chandler was a good idea

The Knicks are not in the same position as the Lakers, they are capped out until 2020. The Lakers have gotten the number 2 pick three times, the number 7 pick once, and would be in line for another lottery pick this year if they still had the rights to it, that's in addition to potentially having two max players added. The Knicks and their rebuild just started and have two lottery picks to show for it, so don't bring the Lakers and their 5 top 10 picks up, never mind the fact they had to give one of them up to get caproom.

The Knicks have just started their rebuild, they have two lottery picks to the Lakers 5, and you in here seriously talking about signing LeBron, which you don't seem to realize would mean they'd have to package away other Knick players to get back the talent LeBron would want around him since the Knicks are capped out. The only Knick players of great value are KP, Frank and Hernangomez, so please tell me where all this supporting talent would come from? A 29 year old LeBron didn't wait on Wiggins, but a 34 year old LeBron will wait on Frank? He and Willy would be on the first plane outta NY for CP3 and you'd be saying how great a move it is, meanwhile you've just used up all the free caproom the Knicks would have when a 26 year old Giannis is a FA.

 

[JMurder]

Nah, cause Dolan is a businessman, he don't give a fukk about basketball. In his eyes Phil was asking too much after making an already bad financial decision. Dolan don't give a fukk about a triangle or circle offense. He cares about money.

Phil buying out money was never gonna hit Dolan pockets as much as fans turning on this franchise if KP got traded....so...

 

[seemorecizzy]

No, people like you have absolutely no understanding of how things work, you probably thought using the Allan Houston amnesty on Billups to sign Chandler was a good idea

The Knicks are not in the same position as the Lakers, they are capped out until 2020. The Lakers have gotten the number 2 pick three times, the number 6 pick once, and would be in line for another lottery pick this year if they still had the rights to it, that's in addition to potentially having two max players added. The Knicks and their rebuild just started and have two lottery picks to show for it, so don't bring the Lakers and their 5 top 10 picks up, never mind the fact they had to give one of them up to get caproom.

The Knicks have just started their rebuild, they have two lottery picks to the Lakers 5, and you in here seriously talking about signing LeBron, which you don't seem to realize would mean they'd have to package away other Knick players to get back the talent LeBron would want around him since the Knicks are capped out. The only Knick players of great value are KP, Frank and Hernangomez, so please tell me where all this supporting talent would come from? A 29 year old LeBron didn't wait on Wiggins, but a 34 year old LeBron will wait on Frank? He and Willy would be on the first plane outta NY for CP3 and you'd be saying how great a move it is, meanwhile you've just used up all the free caproom the Knicks would have when a 26 year old Giannis is a FA.

knicks are capped out
which is why originally, someone said lets make trades to clear cap and go after lebron lol
no one said anyhing about trades except u
u said yes, u said u wanted some unknown rookie to play sf instead of lebron james lol

lakers already traded away their number 2 draft pick after 2 years lol
you guys put so much faith in draft picks
the team, is essentially trash which is why magic wants some superstars

the key is to draft solid picks during your down time and then have cap space open to improve in free agency if possible

if lebron were to come here,he'd want to play with kp and frank so i dont understand what you are talking about


willy doesn't even play homie, havent you been watching

hes definitely tradeable

and no, i wanted to use the amensty on amare and pick up chris paul

 

[Raw Lyrics]

I had the game on the entire night. It wasn't looking good in the first half, especially when Tim Hardaway kept jacking up 3 point shots.

With that being said, that 4th quarter defense was incredible. I haven't seen anything like that since Ewing, Oakley and Co. were locking down opposing offenses.

Props to KP, Kanter, Frank and the rest of the squad for erasing that 19 point deficit tho. It's fun just to watch the Knicks give themselves a chance.

I still can't believe a 7'3 giant has such a soft touch, most of his shots hit the bottom of the net

 

[ogc163]

knicks are capped out
which is why originally, someone said lets make trades to clear cap and go after lebron lol
no one said anyhing about trades except u
u said yes, u said u wanted some unknown rookie to play sf instead of lebron james lol

lakers already traded away their number 2 draft pick after 2 years lol
you guys put so much faith in draft picks
the team, is essentially trash which is why magic wants some superstars

the key is to draft solid picks during your down time and then have cap space open to improve in free agency if possible

if lebron were to come here,he'd want to play with kp and frank so i dont understand what you are talking about


willy doesn't even play homie, havent you been watching

hes definitely tradeable

and no, i wanted to use the amensty on amare and pick up chris paul

Damn you are one of the shyttiest posters in this thread.

 

[Miles Davis]

KP delivers!

fukk man we really need to get this dude a reliable 2nd option.

Don’t seem like it’s gonna be through the draft

KP good enough to bring to the 8th seed at least with the trash ass east this year. I swear if this shyt come back and bite us in the ass in the future

 

[GetInTheTruck]

Phil buying out money was never gonna hit Dolan pockets as much as fans turning on this franchise if KP got traded....so...

Breh, a business man is always about his dollar, no matter how small or how big, money is money. They know the value of a penny, that's why they have billions. Dolan was loyal to Isiah throughout all the madness, that's cause he never fukked up the bread. The sexual harassment shyt is what got him canned. Phil did fukk with the bread, So off GP I'm saying firing him was the right thing to do...but for us as Knicks fans, Phil was a blessing.

Everybody who hated Phil and wanted him gone and got caught up in all the nonsense, like that stupid picture of all these New York celebrities wearing timbs with the pitchforks out, clowning Phil for drafting Frank because "triangle blah blah blah"....all those people looking funny in the light. None of them deserve to enjoy whats happening now and what will hopefully carry on towards the future.