9/30/2023: SHO PPV - Canelo vs Charlo (Undisputed Super Middleweight Championship)

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klutch2381

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He has 90 days to jump 3 weight classes to be on the same weight level.

Steroids, growth hormone, all these things help, they helped Pacquiao jump up and still knock guys out, they helped Canelo go up and develop trunk volume and velocity strength.

But all of the above were with the help of both PED’s AND time.

Mel will have the former in some form, but not the latter.

Anybody that has boxed for years, and understands weight transfer, walk around weight, bullying weight etc gets this.

A lot of these dudes have been watching the sports for years and still really don't get the sport. :wow:

If you think Charlo is going to be a power puncher at 168... you really don't get the sport fundamentally. His best bet is going to be to try to circle to the right and jab all night on some Lara shyt, but in terms of power, he's not going to have anything for Canelo. Conversely, Canelo will be the biggest puncher Charlo has faced in a sanctioned bout by far. People do this weird thing with power now that you either have Wilder, Julian Jackson one-punch destructive power, or you don't have power. "I mean, he's a volume guy. He's not really a one-punch KO guy like that. Ryder took his power, so I think his power is a bit overstated." Look, Canelo clearly punches hard af. As you start moving up in weight you're fighting naturally bigger men that absorb punishment better and that are more durable. Once you get to 160, in my opinion, you start getting to the weight classes where some guys are legit world championship contenders just because of their sheer size/toughness in the division. Yeah, there are outliers below, like Jarret Hurd, but you will see more of those kinda guys at 160 and above. For example, JCC Jr. does not have one world-class boxing skill, but off sheer size and toughness, he was a championship-level fighter. Canelo has been hurting these dudes and stopping a lot of them. He clearly punches very hard at 168.

This is diabolical matchmaking because Charlo is a name. It's a scalp, but it's a very low-risk fight for Canelo and he knows that. Some people will try to convince you that David is an easy fight for Canelo, but Canelo does not even believe that. He can seemingly mention everyone else's name as a potential opponent but David's. shyt is funny. I'd much rather see Charlo fight Tszyu, but I am happy Charlo will get a bag for his troubles.
 

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A lot of these dudes have been watching the sports for years and still really don't get the sport. :wow:

If you think Charlo is going to be a power puncher at 168... you really don't get the sport fundamentally. His best bet is going to be to try to circle to the right and jab all night on some Lara shyt, but in terms of power, he's not going to have anything for Canelo. Conversely, Canelo will be the biggest puncher Charlo has faced in a sanctioned bout by far. People do this weird thing with power now that you either have Wilder, Julian Jackson one-punch destructive power, or you don't have power. "I mean, he's a volume guy. He's not really a one-punch KO guy like that. Ryder took his power, so I think his power is a bit overstated." Look, Canelo clearly punches hard af. As you start moving up in weight you're fighting naturally bigger men that absorb punishment better and that are more durable. Once you get to 160, in my opinion, you start getting to the weight classes where some guys are legit world championship contenders just because of their sheer size/toughness in the division. Yeah, there are outliers below, like Jarret Hurd, but you will see more of those kinda guys at 160 and above. For example, JCC Jr. does not have one world-class boxing skill, but off sheer size and toughness, he was a championship-level fighter. Canelo has been hurting these dudes and stopping a lot of them. He clearly punches very hard at 168.

This is diabolical matchmaking because Charlo is a name. It's a scalp, but it's a very low-risk fight for Canelo and he knows that. Some people will try to convince you that David is an easy fight for Canelo, but Canelo does not even believe that. He can seemingly mention everyone else's name as a potential opponent but David's. shyt is funny. I'd much rather see Charlo fight Tszyu, but I am happy Charlo will get a bag for his troubles.
Well done, articulated and explained in a proper manner.

The part about Canelo taking the fight is what people aren't understanding. This is low risk for any boxer that is that much bigger, from a duration at a higher weight perspective.

You don't just go up to 168/175 from 154 and then bang, all done, you've acclimated to the new weight class and there's nothing else to worry about. The body doesn't work like that, power doesn't work like that. There's power from velocity and strength, and then there's power from mass. You don't just become a new weight instantaneously and off you go. Canelo has been at 168/175 for what? 6 years? He's developed into the weight (with the obvious special ingredients to help him get there.) But he still can't match the big, big weight guys at 175/168. But fight a guy who has campaigned at 147/154 his entire career? Ofcourse he's going to take that fight.
 

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i don’t even like Canelo but nikkas turn into straight up boxing retards when his Name comes up.

Also,it doesn’t matter where Canelo started at he’s been slowly adding weight(muscle ),fighting bigger men and taking their best shots for years ..You don’t just gain 15 pounds in a summer and be physically ready to fight two divisions higher .That’s moron talk.
 
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Seriously, what are these personal and mental issues Jermall had been dealing with these past 2 years causing a big layoff?? Its like everybody quotes this but no one actually knows what these issues are :patrice: :jbhmm:
 

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Damn I didnt know it was this bad




Get married, brehs :wow:


She was right though.

This nygga Jermall was so obsessed with the Canelo fight, that he stayed on the sidelines HOPING Canelo would pick him as an opponent. Meanwhile, due to his expensive spending habits, he’s unable to maintain his lifestyle.

How are you gonna have a wife, 4 kids, and not fight hoping another man will give you a chance? Nah I can’t side with Jermall on this and I’m always hard on these hoes
 

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legit question why is canelo hated so much, this nikka barley even talks.

I usually only lurk boxing forums and never post because of how passionate boxing fans are.
 
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