9/28 PBC on FOX PPV: Errol Spence vs Shawn Porter (WBC/IBF Welterweight Title unification)

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Not fraud tho bro ...
Yall go too far left and right...
Hes gooa
Hes still getting better... if he was to lose... hopefully he figures out how he can get better
Spence called out Thurman before he was injured...called out Manny, Danny Garcia...Porter IS JUST NOW stepping up after he was closed in when Manny ducked Spence to fight Thurman and Mikey looked more brave. He had no choice.
 

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Only people who really know boxing can see this....
I dnt know what else to tell people...

You can tell he hasn't boxed all his life like alot of the good fighters...
Very robotic... not fluid.
That awkward ass nikka porter, might muddy the fight up real good.. and itll make a guy like spence, who isnt really crafty, look confused and bad
Spends looks very skinny in his most recent video after cutting all that weight, and from the fight with Brook we can see he gets hit in the face a lot. That makes me think he'll get knocked out.

Same thing that happened with mayweather and augustus. If augustus had any power behind his punches mayweather would have gotten knocked out in the 5th round.

I don't know about boxing, i'm just spectating. But to me it seems like a skinny guy, who gets hit in the head and on the chin a lot, will lose to a bigger guy, who throws power shots. The fight is 12 rounds, and all Porter had to do is catch him in one of those rounds and lay him out, and it seems like Spence gets caught a lot. Spence does not seem very fast either, like Mayweather was with Augustus or with a power puncher like Canelo. He leaves his jabs out for a long time and leaves his chin exposed and he does not have good hand speed like Khan. Floyd beat Canelo because he was fast enough to dodge punches and stayed in his shell. Spence doesn't have a shell and doesn't doge punches

I'm going to put $100 on Porter and see what happens. :yeshrug:
 

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You're bugging out... GGG might not be the most complete boxer in the history of the sport, but he's basically been the most feared man at 160 for years now. Golovkin is the best W anyone can get at 160. How can you say he's trash?

On Spence, you're going to have to explain what this "fluid boxer" is. Because I don't see many other fighters capable of ripping combinations like Spence. He's a predominantly come forward fighter, that's his game, and he's fluid in it.

Porter is not a better inside fighter than Spence.

Triple g is not super skilled.
He punches hard... that's it.

Mayweather, pac, gervonte davis, broner...
These are fighters that look fluid.
There slickness, movement... ring general ship..
They have it.
Doesnt mean they are gonna beat everybody but u can tell they've spent alot of time In the ring and have alot of experience.

Spence is very mechanical.... jab, jab, straight left.

I'll actually compare him to an early pacman.
When he didnt have alot of tools in his toolbox.
Just speed a power in the left hand.

Being a southpaw already makes u difficult, then the power adds more difficulties for opponents.
But once u start fighting better opponents, they'll expose ur one dimensional nature.
U gotta add more to ur arsenal
 

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He knocked out the same man who came to America and took Porter's 0 and belt.:russ:


At this point, the only real blemish on Spence's record is that he didn't stop Mikey. Yet, he still threw over 1000 punches and dominated every minute of every round. That's a tough fighter to beat, and in the moment, only Pacquiao and Crawford are seen as having a shot against Spence @ 47.

Bro... none of these dudes he fought are anybody...
Kell brooks is probly the best person hes fought..
When kell brooks is the best person uve fought... and he was kinda giving u some work in that fight... that's a problem

Run down canelos opponents bro
 

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Bro do you know how many fighters are hyped to no end and have worse or comparable resumes than Spence? Lomachenko is considered p4p #1 and he has fought a bunch of past their prime fighters or guys who had to move up 2 weight classes to fight him. Crawford's career best win is against Victor fukking Postol bro. Tyson Fury beat an old ass Klitschko and couldn't beat Wilder's non boxing ass. The only fighter GGG beat that was even worth mentioning was Danny Jacobs and even then Jacobs sits in the hall of good to very good but not elite or even great.

None of those fighters have a Kell Brook(except GGG but he was supposed to win that) or Mikey Garcia, or after Saturday, a Shawn Porter on their resume. I get it, you want him to prove himself before you crown him and that's fine I can definitely see the argument there and won't argue against it, but saying who has he fought when a lot of guys on the top 10 p4p list have fought a bunch of bums is just moving the goalpost bro.

I'll even say this as a Spence fan, there are only 2 fighters on the top 10 p4p list who have an unquestionable resume and that is Pacman and Canelo. That is it, everyone else(including Spence) needs to improve they shyt.

We are saying the same thing brother....
I watch all the fighters cause I like boxing...
But none of them get on mu radar til they start fighting real dudes...
Kell brooks is a start, porter is good too..
And u gotta keep going from there.

I never hype these dudes up... I let their resumes do the talking
 

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You're bugging out... GGG might not be the most complete boxer in the history of the sport, but he's basically been the most feared man at 160 for years now. Golovkin is the best W anyone can get at 160. How can you say he's trash?

GGG has an all time great chin and great power. He lacks speed, head and foot movement, no semblance of defense(probably cause with his chin he never needed it), and honestly he lacks a lot of skills period bro. He is well liked because he is entertaining. I understand why people like GGG so much, he will literally on purpose let you try your best to beat his ass and when you can't do it he will just knock you out like he was playing with you the whole time. He is an entertaining fighter, he isn't a pretty fighter but he is very entertaining.
 
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Spends looks very skinny in his most recent video after cutting all that weight, and from the fight with Brook we can see he gets hit in the face a lot. That makes me think he'll get knocked out.

Same thing that happened with mayweather and augustus. If augustus had any power behind his punches mayweather would have gotten knocked out in the 5th round.

I don't know about boxing, i'm just spectating. But to me it seems like a skinny guy, who gets hit in the head and on the chin a lot, will lose to a bigger guy, who throws power shots. The fight is 12 rounds, and all Porter had to do is catch him in one of those rounds and lay him out, and it seems like Spence gets caught a lot. Spence does not seem very fast either, like Mayweather was with Augustus or with a power puncher like Canelo. He leaves his jabs out for a long time and leaves his chin exposed and he does not have good hand speed like Khan. Floyd beat Canelo because he was fast enough to dodge punches and stayed in his shell. Spence doesn't have a shell and doesn't doge punches

I'm going to put $100 on Porter and see what happens. :yeshrug:


:salute: u got a good eye bro
 

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Bro... none of these dudes he fought are anybody...
Kell brooks is probly the best person hes fought..
When kell brooks is the best person uve fought... and he was kinda giving u some work in that fight... that's a problem

Run down canelos opponents bro

Kell Brook was a good crafty boxer though bro, before the eye injuries he would of been a problem for any of the fighters today at 147. He was a big quick welterweight with good to great boxing ability, people act like he was chopped liver or something, he was the champ of course he was gonna hit Spence and he hung in there... Before Spence proceeded to beat that ass and stop him from rounds 6-11. And even then Spence still won at least 2 of the first 5 rounds that he was supposedly having trouble in. People really act like Spence was getting beat up when Brook was head hunting and Spence literally broke him down from his body up to his damn eye socket. Go rewatch that fight, Spence took some leather but he didn't respect Brooks power(which to date he aint respected anyones power which is what I've said you're gonna have to do to beat him) so he beat that mans body to shyt in the first 5 rounds, which set up rounds 6-11.
 

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Kell Brook was a good crafty boxer though bro, before the eye injuries he would of been a problem for any of the fighters today at 147. He was a big quick welterweight with good to great boxing ability, people act like he was chopped liver or something, he was the champ of course he was gonna hit Spence and he hung in there... Before Spence proceeded to beat that ass and stop him from rounds 6-11. And even then Spence still won at least 2 of the first 5 rounds that he was supposedly having trouble in. People really act like Spence was getting beat up when Brook was head hunting and Spence literally broke him down from his body up to his damn eye socket. Go rewatch that fight, Spence took some leather but he didn't respect Brooks power(which to date he aint respected anyones power which is what I've said you're gonna have to do to beat him) so he beat that mans body to shyt in the first 5 rounds, which set up rounds 6-11.
Nah... no doubt..
He put on his big boy pants and beat brooks...
But maybe yall think everybody is real good.
But I dnt see shyt special in brooks..
Hes an experienced, smart fighter.... but nothing special.
Spence beat him. That was a good stepping stone. Doesnt make him great.

I guess there needs to be some gate keepers left In the division.
Maybe a Mosley's or a cotto.
U beat those kinda guys. Then ur saying something
 

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Excited for Saturday. Spence is going to put a beating on Porter. Y'all think Spence looks skinny, wait till Porter has to cut his hair just to try and make weight... Again.

Porter has shown time and time again that he can not only be timed when he rushes in, but that he also struggles to implement his roughhousing against fighters who are natural welterweights like Thurman or Brook. All that talk about "it's not pretty but it's effective" doesn't mean shyt if Porter continues to lose decisions in fights that actually matter, which I believe will be the case this Saturday.

If the discussion is just going to devolve into "Spence is good.. but he's beatable" then I ain't tryna hear it because everyone is fukkin beatable.:francis:

Anyways, at 47 I only see Pac and Crawford as legitimate threats to Spence, and I don't even know if I'd have Spence as the underdog.
 
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GGG has an all time great chin and great power. He lacks speed, head and foot movement, no semblance of defense(probably cause with his chin he never needed it), and honestly he lacks a lot of skills period bro. He is well liked because he is entertaining. I understand why people like GGG so much, he will literally on purpose let you try your best to beat his ass and when you can't do it he will just knock you out like he was playing with you the whole time. He is an entertaining fighter, he isn't a pretty fighter but he is very entertaining.

Here's the thing though, when we look back at the middleweight division, Golovkin isn't going to be compared to fukkin David Lemieux or Curtis Stevens. If Golovkin was this incredibly flawed fighter, he would've been embarrassed like BJS embarrassed Lemieux, or flattened like Stevens when he faced Lemieux.

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You want to see someone with no head movement, defense, or foot movement? Peep Canelo vs. Angulo or Canelo vs. Chavez Jr.

How come Canelo couldn't fukk up Golovkin like he Angulo or Jr? If Golovkin was truly as unskilled, the levels would've been exposed already.

Not everyone is going to be this supremely talented boxer, but they're still damn special and formidable. Put some respect on G's name.
 

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Nah... no doubt..
He put on his big boy pants and beat brooks...
But maybe yall think everybody is real good.
But I dnt see shyt special in brooks..
Hes an experienced, smart fighter.... but nothing special.
Spence beat him. That was a good stepping stone. Doesnt make him great.

I guess there needs to be some gate keepers left In the division.
Maybe a Mosley's or a cotto.
U beat those kinda guys. Then ur saying something

Brook was a great fighter, wouldn't say elite or all time great, but if he didn't have the eye injuries he would still be in the top 5 of the 147 rankings. Brook beat Porter, and I could see him beating both Thurman and Danny Garcia. I don't know about Pacman or Bud but it wouldn't be easy for them.

Problem is with boxing today there is no single boxer in any division(yes even that overhyped ass Lomachenko who lost to Orlando fukking Salido :scust:) who stands out above the rest. Last generation was easy to tell. Mayweather and Pacquiao were clearly the two best fighters at the glamour weights, just like Wladimir Klitschko was the best in the bigger weights. None of these divisions have a lot of depth past the top 3-5, it's telling when Mikey Garcia has to move up 2 weight classes to make a fight with an opponent, or Rigo has to move up 2 weight classes to fight a guy. Only 147 and 168 IMO have any semblance of depth and even then compared to the last generation those divisions would still be top heavy. Idk bro you can only beat who is able to be put in front of you. :yeshrug:
 

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Here's the thing though, when we look back at the middleweight division, Golovkin isn't going to be compared to fukkin David Lemieux or Curtis Stevens. If Golovkin was this incredibly flawed fighter, he would've been embarrassed like BJS embarrassed Lemieux, or flattened like Stevens when he faced Lemieux.

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You want to see someone with no head movement, defense, or foot movement? Peep Canelo vs. Angulo or Canelo vs. Chavez Jr.

How come Canelo couldn't fukk up Golovkin like he Angulo or Jr? If Golovkin was truly as unskilled, the levels would've been exposed already.

Not everyone is going to be this supremely talented boxer, but they're still damn special and formidable. Put some respect on G's name.

Bro what fight did you watch. In the first GGG fight Canelo was boxing GGGs head off the first 6-7 rounds. All GGG did was increase his workrate to hide the fact he was getting embarrassed out there... And Canelo fights flat footed as fukk bro, it's still amazing to me he only has 1 L on his record given his flat footedness and stamina issues(which is the only reason why GGG even made it look like it was a good fight cause by round 8 Canelo was GASSED).:russ:


Like I said GGG has an ALL TIME GREAT P4P CHIN, you would probably have to go to light heavyweight before you could find a fighter who would be able to even make him feel a damn punch. Just cause you aint ever been knocked out or knocked down don't make you great. And the levels have been exposed. GGG arguably lost the Jacobs fight, and it's a travesty Canelo had to go back in there 2 times and beat him with TWO DIFFERENT STYLES, while GGG literally fought the same exact fight both times :stopitslime:. If GGG is so great why don't he go fight Andrade or Charlo? Or move up and fight Callum Smith or Benavidez? Instead he fights Steve fukking Rolls and now is fighting Danny Jacobs leftovers, GGG was and always has been overrated.
 

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Bro what fight did you watch. In the first GGG fight Canelo was boxing GGGs head off the first 6-7 rounds. All GGG did was increase his workrate to hide the fact he was getting embarrassed out there... And Canelo fights flat footed as fukk bro, it's still amazing to me he only has 1 L on his record given his flat footedness and stamina issues(which is the only reason why GGG even made it look like it was a good fight cause by round 8 Canelo was GASSED).:russ:


Like I said GGG has an ALL TIME GREAT P4P CHIN, you would probably have to go to light heavyweight before you could find a fighter who would be able to even make him feel a damn punch. Just cause you aint ever been knocked out or knocked down don't make you great. And the levels have been exposed. GGG arguably lost the Jacobs fight, and it's a travesty Canelo had to go back in there 2 times and beat him with TWO DIFFERENT STYLES, while GGG literally fought the same exact fight both times :stopitslime:. If GGG is so great why don't he go fight Andrade or Charlo? Or move up and fight Callum Smith or Benavidez? Instead he fights Steve fukking Rolls and now is fighting Danny Jacobs leftovers, GGG was and always has been overrated.

What we not finna do is try and revise history... Canelo was flush red from exhaustion after 4 rounds against Golovkin. That was a highly controversial decision that absolutely merited a rematch. I think Canelo won the rematch decisively, but you're being dishonest and straight fraudulent if you try to tell me that Canelo had an easy time with Golovkin like he did against Kirkland, Chavez, Angulo and etc. Golovkin brought the best out of Canelo and only special fighters can do that.

Call him overrated, but Golovkin would be Andrade or Charlo's best win and hardest fight EASILY. Golovkin is probably Canelo's crowning achievement.

Also, the levels been exposed?? So what level is G in your opinion?
 

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What we not finna do is try and revise history... Canelo was flush red from exhaustion after 4 rounds against Golovkin. That was a highly controversial decision that absolutely merited a rematch. I think Canelo won the rematch decisively, but you're being dishonest and straight fraudulent if you try to tell me that Canelo had an easy time with Golovkin like he did against Kirkland, Chavez, Angulo and etc. Golovkin brought the best out of Canelo and only special fighters can do that.

Call him overrated, but Golovkin would be Andrade or Charlo's best win and hardest fight EASILY. Golovkin is probably Canelo's crowning achievement.

Also, the levels been exposed?? So what level is G in your opinion?

Gassed after 4 is a complete lie, cut that out his stamina issues are bad and will eventually be his downfall, but GGG was getting thoroughly outboxed in the first half of that first fight.

GGG is a good fighter, good enough to beat the weaklings, and can give a challenge to the top guys but he never was or ever will be that guy.
 
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