9/28 PBC on FOX PPV: Errol Spence vs Shawn Porter (WBC/IBF Welterweight Title unification)

[Conscious Pilot]

Breh, ban bet? Spence is wayyyyy better than you seem to think for whatever reason. I’m not going to insult your intellect. I’m just going to say you’re clearly and woefully wrong. There’s a reason that Manny has been looking at fighting everyone at 147 besides Crawford and Spence. By the 3rd round Porter is going to be afraid to punch. Porter is getting stopped. I honestly feel bad for him cause Spence is going to open up like a muhfukka on him. Porter isn’t a good enough boxer to employ that Adrien Broner/Mikey Garcia lemme survive 12 rounds tactic. If Spence doesn’t stop Porter, I don’t post for a month. If Spence stops Porter you don’t post for a month? Bet?

 

[klutch2381]

Bruh get off his dikk you Bozo

You’ve been trolling and pretending to be an old man/failed boxer on a fukking internet forum for years. Shut the fukk up you goddamn weirdo. I have 13 posts in this thread. You have fukking 20 . I watch Mindhunters . Don’t quote me again weirdo serial killer ass nikka.


P.S. fukk you.

 

[Thatrogueassdiaz]

I expect spence to be on the back foot from the jump. He already knows how physically strong porter is. Even in interviews you can hear the respect he has for porter's toughness. I think he knows he has to keep porter at arms length. Spence may be more powerful on the inside but I think shawn is faster and more compact. Rewatching the Thurman and brook fights you can see porter is pretty fukkin crafty on the inside. Some of the shyt you don't even see. He really mixes it up and lands shyt from awkward angles.

That's why I think it's vital for spence to keep the fight at a distance. You can't compare this fight with mikey because mikey wasn't even trying to get inside. He made the choice to get boxed the fukk up for 12 rounds rather than go inside and get knocked out. Porter ain't going out like that. He's 100% willing to get knocked out in order to apply his gameplan. That's why I think this is gonna be a great fight. If Spence dominates porter over 12 or even beats him at his own game to a stoppage he'll officially be elite status in my eyes.

I do feel like people are giving Porter no chance to even be competitive. Porter is the consummate overachiever--he finds ways to win when he shouldn't win. It's not going to be easy. If the fight is competitive for 10 rounds I won't be surprised. With that said I expect Spence to hurt Porter really really bad, and I expect Porter to get stopped. I think Porter's dad will save him if it turns ugly real quick.

 

[TheNig]

I wouldnt pay the real price so I definitely would go to the "sticks". It was pro Manny for the Thurman fight. Those white folks were happy as fukk during the decision.

You still on that? nikkas fried the unholiness outta you and you still on it. Just stupid for no reason.

 

[Thatrogueassdiaz]

People really need to rewatch that fight, in particular the first half. Mikey tried everything they said Porter should try on Spence and he failed at all of them and it aint cause Spence used his size either. Mikey tried to fight off the jab, and failed. He tried to bait him in and counter him, he failed. He tried to close the distance and fight inside very briefly and failed. Spence defense and ability to adjust on the fly is literally never talked about and it's sad no one actually wants to see it. They always gonna think he is just a pressure fighter.

Porter is bigger than Mikey so I don't think he'll get straight bullied, but if people was so confident he could win they would of bet on it.

Definitely agree on all of these. Also Mikey tried to walk him down and failed. Spence is an A+ skill level boxer, but his skills get overlooked because of his ability to wear his opponents down. He himself describes his style as "passive aggressive". Ironically Spence reminds me a lot of Marvin Hagler, in the sense that people still today think Hagler was a brawler because of his ability to wear people down, when really Marvin was the most technically sound and skillful boxer of the Fab 4, imo. Just watch his fights. Actually Spence himself brings up the comparison and feels it's a slight to himself. Spence is a guy that can beat your ass in many ways. We won't get to see the very best of Spence until he moves up imo. Right now the comp just isn't there for him. Only legitimate comp is Bud and I expect Spence to stop Bud as well. The perfect fight for Spence to showcase his talent would be against Canelo Alvarez. Unfortunately that fukking idiot Oscar has Canelo moving up and down in weight so much that I doubt Canelo ever fights at 160 again. If Spence and Canelo ever fight it'll have to be at 168.

Another good fight for Spence to showcase his skills would be against Erislandy Lara, who, ironically enough, just called him out. Actually I think that would be the one fight Spence may not be favored to win by the vast majority.

 

[R=G]

You still on that? nikkas fried the unholiness outta you and you still on it. Just stupid for no reason.

I have no clue what you're dreaming about, kid

 

[AtomicUse]

I've been getting a Khan vs Canelo angle from this fight, which makes me think Porter will win by KO.

Spence seems very robotic and inorganic and if he gets hit with something he hasn't practiced, I think he won't be able to adjust.

Porter by KO?

 

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

Definitely agree on all of these. Also Mikey tried to walk him down and failed. Spence is an A+ skill level boxer, but his skills get overlooked because of his ability to wear his opponents down. He himself describes his style as "passive aggressive". Ironically Spence reminds me a lot of Marvin Hagler, in the sense that people still today think Hagler was a brawler because of his ability to wear people down, when really Marvin was the most technically sound and skillful boxer of the Fab 4, imo. Just watch his fights. Actually Spence himself brings up the comparison and feels it's a slight to himself. Spence is a guy that can beat your ass in many ways. We won't get to see the very best of Spence until he moves up imo. Right now the comp just isn't there for him. Only legitimate comp is Bud and I expect Spence to stop Bud as well. The perfect fight for Spence to showcase his talent would be against Canelo Alvarez.

I agree with all of this. Mikey may not physically be on Porters level, but pure boxing skills he is miles ahead of Porter and Spence never once just used his size to box him, he just straight out boxed Mikey, made it look like he wasn't even on the same level. I've never seen a top 10 p4p fighter get straight washed like that, size disadvantage or not cause Mayweather and Pacquiao were smaller than a lot of their opponents and still gave them work, but somehow Spence lost respect for that performance in a lot of peoples eyes. Mikey tried every strategy you can do against Spence except trying to brawl with him(which is what I think Porter is gonna do honestly) cause he knew that would be suicide. Spence was going for the KO though now that I watch it again, but Mikey did literally shell up. All those big punches that Spence was landing Mikey was blocking them, but that's all he was doing shelling up to keep from getting knocked out. No offense what so ever.

Funny thing is Hearns, Leonard, and Duran were all welterweights/lightweights naturally, but Hagler a natural Middleweight got full credit for beating Hearns and Duran but Spence gets bashed for taking on a smaller guy who CALLED HIM OUT. Boxing fans are so biased sometimes.

And I agree Bud and Canelo are Spences comp, and I got Spence stopping Bud also. Everyone only ever brings up Buds abilities and none of his flaws or acting like Spence couldn't just walk him down and beat him up if he really wanted too, on top of the fact that Bud be taking some BIG shots cause as good as they say his defense is he be leaving himself WIDE open at times for it, the guys at 135 and 140 just didn't have the pop behind their punches to do anything about it.

Let them think Spence has no boxing ability, the same guy who got a Mayweather cosign after he got off in Floyds ass and blacked his eye and knocked out Broner in sparring. But hey he just a one dimensional pressure fighter bruh, he gonna go robot his way to victory I guess.

 

[Knicksman20]

Yea that's why I said if he dominates porter I'll consider him elite. Cause any true elite fighter should be able to dominate a guy like porter easy. And no guy at 147 has been able to do it yet. These guys go against his awkward style and play it safe instead of really trying to pick him apart. Cause they don't wanna get caught with some shyt. But I feel like spence just has that dog in him. He doesn't just wanna win be victorious, he wants to be special. And this is his opportunity to be that. Not just come in and try to squeak out a victory like the rest of the guys did. He's coming to put on a masterpiece. But I just don't see that happening right now. Like you said. I don't feel he has the tools to shut porter out like that. But we'll see. I feel like both guys are gonna bring out the best in eachother. There's really no outcome that would shock me.

That's why I think Thurman's win over Porter is impressive because he beat him at his own game in a fire fight & rocked him a few times

 

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

I expect spence to be on the back foot from the jump. He already knows how physically strong porter is. Even in interviews you can hear the respect he has for porter's toughness. I think he knows he has to keep porter at arms length. Spence may be more powerful on the inside but I think shawn is faster and more compact. Rewatching the Thurman and brook fights you can see porter is pretty fukkin crafty on the inside. Some of the shyt you don't even see. He really mixes it up and lands shyt from awkward angles.

That's why I think it's vital for spence to keep the fight at a distance. You can't compare this fight with mikey because mikey wasn't even trying to get inside. He made the choice to get boxed the fukk up for 12 rounds rather than go inside and get knocked out. Porter ain't going out like that. He's 100% willing to get knocked out in order to apply his gameplan. That's why I think this is gonna be a great fight. If Spence dominates porter over 12 or even beats him at his own game to a stoppage he'll officially be elite status in my eyes.

Mikey did try to go inside, albeit very briefly, but he did and realized he was gonna get stopped that way and gave up very quickly.

 

[Thatrogueassdiaz]

I agree with all of this. Mikey may not physically be on Porters level, but pure boxing skills he is miles ahead of Porter and Spence never once just used his size to box him, he just straight out boxed Mikey, made it look like he wasn't even on the same level. I've never seen a top 10 p4p fighter get straight washed like that, size disadvantage or not cause Mayweather and Pacquiao were smaller than a lot of their opponents and still gave them work, but somehow Spence lost respect for that performance in a lot of peoples eyes. Mikey tried every strategy you can do against Spence except trying to brawl with him(which is what I think Porter is gonna do honestly) cause he knew that would be suicide. Spence was going for the KO though now that I watch it again, but Mikey did literally shell up. All those big punches that Spence was landing Mikey was blocking them, but that's all he was doing shelling up to keep from getting knocked out. No offense what so ever.

Funny thing is Hearns, Leonard, and Duran were all welterweights/lightweights naturally, but Hagler a natural Middleweight got full credit for beating Hearns and Duran but Spence gets bashed for taking on a smaller guy who CALLED HIM OUT. Boxing fans are so biased sometimes.

And I agree Bud and Canelo are Spences comp, and I got Spence stopping Bud also. Everyone only ever brings up Buds abilities and none of his flaws or acting like Spence couldn't just walk him down and beat him up if he really wanted too, on top of the fact that Bud be taking some BIG shots cause as good as they say his defense is he be leaving himself WIDE open at times for it, the guys at 135 and 140 just didn't have the pop behind their punches to do anything about it.

Let them think Spence has no boxing ability, the same guy who got a Mayweather cosign after he got off in Floyds ass and blacked his eye and knocked out Broner in sparring. But hey he just a one dimensional pressure fighter bruh, he gonna go robot his way to victory I guess.

Actually I have seen top 10 p4p showdown where one fighter got washed that bad: Mayweather vs Marquez. Honestly the same circumstances.

 

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

Actually I have seen top 10 p4p showdown where one fighter got washed that bad: Mayweather vs Marquez. Honestly the same circumstances.

You right though, cause Marquez was some.of the easiest money Mayweather ever made.

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

You right though, cause Marquez was some.of the easiest money Mayweather ever made.

In fairness to JMM, we all knew he was going to get washed because he was a blown up LW and stylistically never had a chance against Floyd...

 

[mag357]

Breh, ban bet? Spence is wayyyyy better than you seem to think for whatever reason. I’m not going to insult your intellect. I’m just going to say you’re clearly and woefully wrong. There’s a reason that Manny has been looking at fighting everyone at 147 besides Crawford and Spence. By the 3rd round Porter is going to be afraid to punch. Porter is getting stopped. I honestly feel bad for him cause Spence is going to open up like a muhfukka on him. Porter isn’t a good enough boxer to employ that Adrien Broner/Mikey Garcia lemme survive 12 rounds tactic. If Spence doesn’t stop Porter, I don’t post for a month. If Spence stops Porter you don’t post for a month? Bet?

I'm cool with that bet...
But I honestly dont know who would win... that's why this is a good fight..
But alot of yall think spence is better than he is...
I remember when ppl thought broner was better than he was...
Even tho I think skill wise, broner is better than spence...
If spence loses, people will treat him just like broner..
Like he never was good

 

[mag357]

I've been getting a Khan vs Canelo angle from this fight, which makes me think Porter will win by KO.

Spence seems very robotic and inorganic and if he gets hit with something he hasn't practiced, I think he won't be able to adjust.

Porter by KO?

Only people who really know boxing can see this....
I dnt know what else to tell people...

You can tell he hasn't boxed all his life like alot of the good fighters...
Very robotic... not fluid.
That awkward ass nikka porter, might muddy the fight up real good.. and itll make a guy like spence, who isnt really crafty, look confused and bad