9/28 PBC on FOX PPV: Errol Spence vs Shawn Porter (WBC/IBF Welterweight Title unification)

[mr. smoke weed]

that might true. but spence hasnt fought an aggressive inside fighter like shawn porter in his pro career yet. you would have to go back to his amateur career. a couple of stand out fights are his two wins over amir imam and his win over julian williams. but a couple of other fights that stand out are his loss to omar figueroa and his loss to brian castano where spence recieved two standing eight counts on way to a 20-11 one sided loss. that does not mean porter is going to bully spence on the inside. but it doesnt mean spence is proven against pressure fighting styles yet, to speak with certainty that he will. you have to let the fighters prove it themselves, in the ring where it all matters, before you give them credit for it. i think thats all that mag357 is trying to say.

You got videos of these am fights?

 

[Yuzo]

If Porter tries his headbutt, rush em style...I think he gets hurt bad. He ain't ever fought a inside body puncher like Spence.

well you might be right about that. but i wont write off shawn porter like some of you have. remember that porter is the shorter fighter on the inside, and that spence, is the the taller, longer fighter on the inside.

everybody said that jarret hurd was too big and too strong, but when he fought j rock, he was beat to the punch every time because he had to uncoil his longer arms to get his punches off up close, and since he had a longer torso, he presented a bigger target on the inside than his opponent did. everybody was looking at how big and strong hurd was, they forgot the old boxing adage that the shorter, smaller fighter is the one with the advantages on the inside, not the taller ones.

 

[surv2syn]

well you might be right about that. but i wont write off shawn porter like some of you have. remember that porter is the shorter fighter on the inside, and that spence, is the the taller, longer fighter on the inside.

everybody said that jarret hurd was too big and too strong, but when he fought j rock, he was beat to the punch every time because he had to uncoil his longer arms to get his punches off up close, and since he had a longer torso, he presented a bigger target on the inside than his opponent did. everybody was looking at how big and strong hurd was, they forgot the old boxing adage that the shorter, smaller fighter is the one with the advantages on the inside, not the taller ones.

cant write Porter off. he is just that good. but Hurd fights like a Mexican. Spence is more versatile and can box, which is what I think he will do against Porter. Most of Porter's wins have come against guys he had an advantage over. Like he was too big/strong for guys like Paulie and his workrate too much for Broner. dont see anything that he can out-do Spence in. it is going to be a good fight and pretty competitive I believe. If Spence could dominate him, I would be highly impressed.

 

[Amare's Right Hook]

Lmaooooooo at all these past comments


Fyi you lost if ya read em.......

#winning

 

[DigitalDopeman]

that might true. but spence hasnt fought an aggressive inside fighter like shawn porter in his pro career yet. you would have to go back to his amateur career. a couple of stand out fights are his two wins over amir imam and his win over julian williams. but a couple of other fights that stand out are his loss to omar figueroa and his loss to brian castano where spence recieved two standing eight counts on way to a 20-11 one sided loss. that does not mean porter is going to bully spence on the inside. but it doesnt mean spence is proven against pressure fighting styles yet, to speak with certainty that he will. you have to let the fighters prove it themselves, in the ring where it all matters, before you give them credit for it. i think thats all that mag357 is trying to say.

bro, those amateur fights don't mean a damn thing at this point to be honest.....and I get what @mag357 is saying and he is entitled to feel how he feels, I respect that. Shawn porter isn't a very skilled inside fighter, if he was, he would've fought that way with danny and ugas. Errol Spence is a way better inside fighter than shawn porter. In my eyes Spence has proved to me that he has the goods and the skills that are far better than his counterparts, his mindstate and will to be the greatest is also ahead of his counterparts. I'm telling you just like I told mag....shawn porter is getting his ass beat and yall will see the difference in levels once again. I have a good eye for dudes that have greatness in them and are just different and I see that in errol and I don't see it all in shawn porter.. That aggressive style of porter will not be a factor if he chooses to fight that....I see spence adjusting and dominating porter. you don't gotta agree because I aint tryna persuade ya. I'm just stating what I see and believe and we will find out on 09/28 .

 

[DigitalDopeman]

cant write Porter off. he is just that good. but Hurd fights like a Mexican. Spence is more versatile and can box, which is what I think he will do against Porter. Most of Porter's wins have come against guys he had an advantage over. Like he was too big/strong for guys like Paulie and his workrate too much for Broner. dont see anything that he can out-do Spence in. it is going to be a good fight and pretty competitive I believe. If Spence could dominate him, I would be highly impressed.

I'm tellin ya.....spence is gonna dominate shawn porter...that boy spence is something else, hopefully shawn porter brings out another level in Spence that we haven't seen.....either way porter getting dominated

 

[DigitalDopeman]

well you might be right about that. but i wont write off shawn porter like some of you have. remember that porter is the shorter fighter on the inside, and that spence, is the the taller, longer fighter on the inside.

everybody said that jarret hurd was too big and too strong, but when he fought j rock, he was beat to the punch every time because he had to uncoil his longer arms to get his punches off up close, and since he had a longer torso, he presented a bigger target on the inside than his opponent did. everybody was looking at how big and strong hurd was, they forgot the old boxing adage that the shorter, smaller fighter is the one with the advantages on the inside, not the taller ones.

Jarret Hurd is not spence....Jarret Hurd is there to get hit and doesn't use any type of skill in his fighting style which is why a technician like jrock broke him down. Spence not only has the size advantage, but he also has the skills advantage, something Hurd didn't and doesn't have .

 

[Yuzo]

You got videos of these am fights?

this is the most complete amateur record i could find. complete amateur records are very, very difficult to find in their entirety.

Errol Spence - BoxRec

the guy that just seemed to have spence's number in the amateurs was serik sapiyev. sapiyev was an extremely talented amateur. they met twice and sapiyev knocked spence out of two international tournaments by a wide margin twice. thats on youtube.

 

[Yuzo]

cant write Porter off. he is just that good. but Hurd fights like a Mexican. Spence is more versatile and can box, which is what I think he will do against Porter. Most of Porter's wins have come against guys he had an advantage over. Like he was too big/strong for guys like Paulie and his workrate too much for Broner. dont see anything that he can out-do Spence in. it is going to be a good fight and pretty competitive I believe. If Spence could dominate him, I would be highly impressed.

i think spence should box also. he has a good jab and i think if he can get his jab going, and if he can keep it on porter, he should win that kind of fight. if porter can get on top of spence, where spence cant throw a jab, he can make it an ugly fight, and in an ugly fight he can make up for not being the more skilled guy. one of the things i look at when a guy like porter fights is to try to see if the other guy looks uncomfortable. if you go back and watch the fights porter had with devon alexander and with andre berto try to look at their faces. i agree with you that if spence can dominate a fighter like shawn porter that it will be an impressive feat.

 

[Skip b]

Cant fight going backwards, unless he fighting midget mikeys.......

this is the most complete amateur record i could find. complete amateur records are very, very difficult to find in their entirety.

Errol Spence - BoxRec

the guy that just seemed to have spence's number in the amateurs was serik sapiyev. sapiyev was an extremely talented amateur. they met twice and sapiyev knocked spence out of two international tournaments by a wide margin twice. thats on youtube.

 

[Master Teacher]

this is the most complete amateur record i could find. complete amateur records are very, very difficult to find in their entirety.

Errol Spence - BoxRec

the guy that just seemed to have spence's number in the amateurs was serik sapiyev. sapiyev was an extremely talented amateur. they met twice and sapiyev knocked spence out of two international tournaments by a wide margin twice. thats on youtube.

Yeah he was way more experienced than Spence, and its this type of amateur experience fighting against guys who are more seasoned than him, I mean the guy won a gold medal the following year, he beat eliminated spence. Spence was like wilder, he didn't grow up boxing and started when he was like 16, he just is a great athlete so he was able to learn fast, and his amateur career is part of the reason why he is at the top of the sport know

Shawn Porter will not fight Errol Spence on the inside, he will get is ass beat and fukked up, Spence too strong for him, Kell Brook manhandled him and out wrestled him, in that boring ass fight. He will try to box Errol Spence, and use lateral movement to create openings, which is what he has down in his last two fights in preparation for this fight

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

I see emotions are running high in here .......that's how you know this is a great matchup. I feel like this is gonna be a throwback fight. High level skill but it's gonna be grueling for both guys. I used to think porter was gonna get ran through but now I see this as a much more even fight. Errol spences chin is going to be tested. We already know porter has a great chin, we don't really know that about Spence yet. Porter also has sneaky speed and a deceptively good defense. He knows how to keep his opponents on their toes. I think Keith has a much better defense than Spence and porter was able to catch him with some very clean shots. Legit head rattlers. And I feel like he's gonna have a much easier time landing on Spence.

Porter's style may be ugly but he gives everybody problems. He throws punches from so many different angles and awkward positions. He makes every guy go through hell for a victory. And this will be no different. This fight will answer all questions about Errol Spence. This is his chance to really prove his place among the elite. This fight might just come down to which guy has more dog in em. If Spence is actually able to break porter's will it would be a huge statement. Porter has no quit in him and he's willing to get knocked out if need be. Spence is gonna have to earn this.


I can't fukkin wait

 

[NormanConnors]

Cats in here overrating Shawn Porter

Spence will beat him and will have to reset and prove himself again next fight, and the next fight after that. Cats were picking him to lose against Garcia saying similar shyt. The real test will be after Spence unifies and moves up in weight. Breh already said he is stronger and faster up north, which I believe as he won't have to cut so much.

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

I feel like Porter is Spence's first real test without any asterisks attached

- In his physical prime or close enough to it without any previous injuries or major ass kickings (Brook)
- Not undersized, but a big physical strong welterweight (Mikey)

You can rank Brook and Mikey above Porter, but he definitely brings certain intangibles they lacked that will challenge Spence differently than he's ever been challenged before.

I still favor Spence, but I look at it like a 60/40 fight. I feel like footwork will be a factor. I think Spence will be better off going right at Porter. I think it'll be a much closer fight if Porter has to be the aggressor. I don't think Spence has the ring agility or footwork to out maneuver Porter cleanly for 12 rds. He'll eventually end up trading on his backfoot if Porter traps and mauls him.

I feel like this fight is gonna be rough, mean, and down right nasty. Spence don't take any shyt and Porter is a super competitor . We might get a FOTY outta this.

Worst case scenario, Porter can't figure out what he wants to do like in the Ugas fight and we get some bullshyt.

 

[mag357]

cant write Porter off. he is just that good. but Hurd fights like a Mexican. Spence is more versatile and can box, which is what I think he will do against Porter. Most of Porter's wins have come against guys he had an advantage over. Like he was too big/strong for guys like Paulie and his workrate too much for Broner. dont see anything that he can out-do Spence in. it is going to be a good fight and pretty competitive I believe. If Spence could dominate him, I would be highly impressed.

The thing that porter has is experience.....
And he can out do him in ugliness, and awkwardness...

I remember when fury and wilder was about to lock horns..
And I told nikkaz fukk how these two fighters actually look...
That ugly, awkwardness and experience should win out