9/28 PBC on FOX PPV: Errol Spence vs Shawn Porter (WBC/IBF Welterweight Title unification)

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I see people keep menitioning Porters foot work and Spences lack there of......we haven't even seen Spences full array of tools, I believe spence has the ability to use footwork he just hasn't had to, he showed flashes of how quick he is on his feet and toes in the later rounds of the Lamont Peterson fight. Porter will be the one having to use that foot work with how good spence is at cutting of the ring. When spence makes shawn porter look basic as fvck....I hope yall don't come with no excuses like how yall doing with Kell Brook and Mikey.
You assume Spence is gonna have to cut the ring off vs porter. I really don't think he's gonna have to chase porter at all. I think porter is gonna be right in his chest from the start. I feel like shawn wants to make Spence fight off the back foot and grind him out.

I've never been a big fan of shawn but the dude is strong as fukk and not easy to time. I think he can definitely match Errol when it comes to phsyical strength. I also think porter's short stature will play into his favor here. He's gonna be more compact and quicker on the inside. This fight is gonna come down to whether or not Errol can keep shawn on the outside. Cause if porter is able to close that distance errol is gonna be in for the fight of his life.
 

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Porter's struggles with cutting weight has been publicized, and I truly worry about the toll it'll take on him. Especially when he's going up against a killer like Spence.



I was watching these highlights the other day. Spence going to the UK, Brook's city, for his first real step up in competition. I remember Brook looking sharp early, but he was taking a lot of punishment on the inside, even in the rounds he was winning. Spence fought how Porter wish he could fight, able to sustain a vicious inside attack without smothering his own work.

The way Brook landed his right hand makes you wonder if that's what Mikey wanted to replicate in his fight vs Spence.

Brook could have very well been on his way to a grueling decision victory, but the bodywork paid off and Brook lost his grip on the fight late.

I hate that people want to not give Spence credit when to me Brook was the number 1 welterweight and he came to fight, he fought hard for 11 rounds.

This wasn’t an injury then the fight is over he had to really put it on him even avert the knockdown Brook got up banging and landed some really big shots and taking some really big shots and didn’t go down again.
 

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I hate that people want to not give Spence credit when to me Brook was the number 1 welterweight and he came to fight, he fought hard for 11 rounds.

This wasn’t an injury then the fight is over he had to really put it on him even avert the knockdown Brook got up banging and landed some really big shots and taking some really big shots and didn’t go down again.


You know, I think we actually had a back and forth on this same topic not too long ago.:russ:

It was actually about a potential Crawford vs Brook fight, which I dismissed because I feel that Brook is washed, and a W wouldn't actually exalt Crawford's resume in 2019.

Anyways, I hate how Brook's career turned out. Basically got ruined in back to back fights, and we never got to see him match up against more of his contemporaries. Giving Porter his first loss is a great W, but his legacy will ultimately be overshadowed by his brutal losses, and what if scenarios. What if he never fought Golovkin; what if he got to fight Khan; what if he fought higher quality opps and etc.

But to go back to his fight vs. Spence: what I love about this fight is that most people overlooked Spence effectively roughing up Brook. Pushing Kell to the ropes, punches to the hip, head buried in Brook's chest, freeing up his arms and punching when Kell wanted to clinch --- Spence gave Brook nearly no breathing room. Even in the exchanges where Brook landed the cleaner shots, Spence would often be in position, typically landing blows as Kell tried to get away.

Spence deserves the props tho. The closer we got to fight night, more folks started to realize how big the stage was for Errol. Sink or swim, he had to prove his greatness that night, and he certainly did it by stopping Brook, a legit WW champ.

I'll always give Brook his props for his admirable professionalism and unquestionable courage. He was a fighter that would make weight, and also, like you said, he was a fighter who would always come to fight.
 
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I hate that people want to not give Spence credit when to me Brook was the number 1 welterweight and he came to fight, he fought hard for 11 rounds.

This wasn’t an injury then the fight is over he had to really put it on him even avert the knockdown Brook got up banging and landed some really big shots and taking some really big shots and didn’t go down again.
That brook victory is what let me know Spence had potential to be an all timer. It was definitely a close fight, but you could feel Spence building momentum from round 1. He just kept coming and never gave brook an inch. I don't think brook ever even took control once. It always felt like it was going in spences favor. There were times when Spence got stunned but he never let brook see it. He always responded back immediately. And that's the sign of a special fighter. To go into hostile territory and put on a performance like that in your first big fight. That was legendary.

And he's gonna have to put on that same kind of performance against porter. Because even though shawn has put on some lackluster performances against weak competition.....when he goes up against the best he always brings his A game. That's guaranteed. They're both gonna have to dig deep.
 

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You assume Spence is gonna have to cut the ring off vs porter. I really don't think he's gonna have to chase porter at all. I think porter is gonna be right in his chest from the start. I feel like shawn wants to make Spence fight off the back foot and grind him out.

I've never been a big fan of shawn but the dude is strong as fukk and not easy to time. I think he can definitely match Errol when it comes to phsyical strength. I also think porter's short stature will play into his favor here. He's gonna be more compact and quicker on the inside. This fight is gonna come down to whether or not Errol can keep shawn on the outside. Cause if porter is able to close that distance errol is gonna be in for the fight of his life.
i didn't assume spence will have to cut the ring off, I said porter will be the one having to use footwork due to how good spence is at cutting the ring off, if it even came to that. I see porter getting beat up on the inside and the outside, I don't think he has the same physical strength as errol, if that was the case he would have overpowered Brook, Granados,and Garcia with that power. I don't think shawn is at all on Spences level skillwise or physically.
 

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I think we are gonna learn more about Spence mentally than his actual skills. Spence is talking shyt to Porter and Porter aint really ever clappin back. Either Spence is that confident in a win or Porter is trying to play mind games with him and get in his head to get him to stand there and allow an inside battle.

Team Porter has been talking all of that smack, pops porter is going to get his son hurt putting that battery in his back.
 

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Porters best bet in this fight is incorporate a lot of that ugly, brawling style he’s reeled back from the past couple fights . Sprinkling in heavy dose of that outside work like what he was doing against Danny and Ugas, I don’t see working against EJ.
Just like Danny and Thurman; Porter started fighting with a bag in the back of his head.......He was seeing that manny payday; too bad Ugas couldnt justify that match, as Porter fought them all and earned it....
 

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Just like Danny and Thurman; Porter started fighting with a bag in the back of his head.......He was seeing that manny payday; too bad Ugas couldnt justify that match, as Porter fought them all and earned it....
that ugly mauling style worked on Garcia and Thurman because they were uncomfortable with that pressure.....I don't see spence being bothered by that, I see spence showing porter he can out rough him or outbox him if it comes down to that...Spence is a different type and shawn finna learn that right along with anybody second guessing the truth....
 
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Anyways, I hate how Brook's career turned out. Basically got ruined in back to back fights, and we never got to see him match up against more of his contemporaries. Giving Porter his first loss is a great W, but his legacy will ultimately be overshadowed by his brutal losses, and what if scenarios. What if he never fought Golovkin; what if he got to fight Khan; what if he fought higher quality opps and etc.

Well they shoulda did all they could do to make the Vargas fight and not rush him into a GGG fight. Beat Vargas, face Pac-Man, and then you could have your pick of the other champs at 147 as a unified champ. I do wonder how a Pac vs Brook fight would have went
 

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Well they shoulda did all they could do to make the Vargas fight and not rush him into a GGG fight. Beat Vargas, face Pac-Man, and then you could have your pick of the other champs at 147 as a unified champ. I do wonder how a Pac vs Brook fight would have went

I agree, the GGG fight was completely unnecessary. I think that's on Brook though, don't think Hearn was trying to make that fight, nor was G. Brook really wanted the Khan fight, and instead of facing anyone else at 47, he went after G.:mjtf:

I think Pac would've boxed circles around Brook though. Way too fast.
 
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