Price will be........ less then you think
efficiency in that it's not running Windows in the background but has all recourses dedicated to the gaming
Just had to quote this off the stupidity.
8GB of GDDR5 RAM - PS4
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Just had to quote this off the stupidity.
NZA
LOL
i have a feeling this thing wont go over $450, and they will probably throw in some kind of extra, like some free gaikai usage or something.
Hip-Hop-Bulls
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Developers thought the ps4 would only have 4gb of ram 
Exactly, he's talking about "PC nerds" when this shyt is essentially just a PC in a closed box. I actually plan on getting a PS4 too which is funny, but I doubt it will have the longevity that PS3 had because it will be so easy to code for.
And, why do these CG animators even bother with render farms, just get a PS4 for your next movie
I'm beginning to sense a theme here. Since you can't refute the points I actually make, you instead extrapolate them to some ridiculous point I never made in an attempt to win brownie points with other posters.
I never said the PS4 could produce graphics that current CGI movies can. I only said that some of the scenes they showed at the live demos yesterday looked like CGI you would've seen in movies around the early 2000s. For example, that Killzone flyover at the beginning of the demo looked like some of the flyovers in Star Wars Episode 2 and 3. Obviously CGI today is vastly superior to CGI from the late 90s/early 00s, thus Hollywood has no need to use this technology.
Because computing power is getting cheaper, Hollywood can produce superior CGI in this era than it did just 10 years ago. Similarly, in 10 years, the next playstation or Xbox should be able to produce graphics equivalent to what it takes Hollywood render farms to do today. That is why I believe Avatar graphics should be possible in the early 2020s and soon after that in the mid-2020s, games should essentially be photorealistic. The computing power will be available so that a $500 console in the mid-2020s will have power equivalent to what takes Hollywood millions of dollars and farms of computers today.
Nothing we have seen from the PS4 has dissuaded me from this opinion.
You said 2018 to "approach" Avatar level graphics on the PS4, anything else you say after that point just gets your opinion tossed to the bushes.
Thats a good point though, lets see the movie industry do what they are doing now with less before we talk about games.
lets see them fit anywhere near this into console by 2025
The Data-Crunching Powerhouse Behind 'Avatar' » Data Center Knowledge
"32 machines with 40,000 processors"
"The industry standard of raised floors and forced-air cooling could not keep up with the constant heat coming off the machines."
"For the last month or more of production those 40,000 processors were handling 7 or 8 gigabytes per second, runnng 24 hrs a day. A final copy of Avatar equated to 17.28 gigabtyes per mintue of storage."
That sounds mighty impressive but just remember that computing power does not advance linearly but EXPONENTIALLY. That is why intel in 2011 produced a single computer chip that had more processing power than the worlds most powerful supercomputer in 1997. That means in 14 years we went from teraflop computing requiring rooms of processors to just a single chip.
Intel and the other large chip manufacturers believe we'll be able to do that again in the next 10 years. The ability to make faster and smaller computer chips is INCREASING, not staying the same. This means that by the mid-2020s, we'll have single chips that can do petaflop computations that currently only the worlds most poweful supercomputers can do.
What that means is that in 10 years rather than requiring farms of processors, the equivalent of Avatar could be done on a single chip. The future is coming sooner than you think. All you need to do is actually read the material out there rather than just being a prisoner of your ignorance.
with the specs confirmed why not?
we all saw what was done with 512 MB of RAM.....why can't an environment that detailed be possible with 16x the power?
You continue to engage in hyperbole and personal attacks rather than ever refuting my actual points. You've exposed yourself as a fraud. Just enjoy the wonderful future of gaming that will be around the corner this decade. Once VR headsets like the Oculus Rift explode, they should only add to making this leap in graphics be even more pronounced.
but it helps with regard to image quality and that is the point.....it will be 16x more powerful than the version of it we saw in the PS3
You continue to engage in hyperbole and personal attacks rather than ever refuting my actual points. You've exposed yourself as a fraud. Just enjoy the wonderful future of gaming that will be around the corner this decade. Once VR headsets like the Oculus Rift explode, they should only add to making this leap in graphics be even more pronounced.
It's a personal attack to say anyone expecting Avatar graphics from the PS4 by 2018 is out of their minds? You say I'm a fraud but you don't even understand something as basic as why that is not possible. You keep talking out your ass about computational power increasing, yet the PS4 is a closed box with no way to upgrade once it's here. The GPU in the PS4 isn't capable of the bullshyt you're saying because we have cold hard data on it's PC consumer counterpart.
Instead of just googling things, why don't you go to Beyond3D forums and tell them what you're saying in here, after they laugh you off the board and ban you, come back here
Prince Akeem
Its not that deep breh....
@ "Helps in regard to image quality"Actually, in terms of raw computing it's not 16x more powerful than PS3, it simply has 16x more ram. You have no clue what you're talking about and it's showing.
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