8/6/16: Oakland true champion returns: Andre "SOG" Ward vs some columbian nikka I never heard of.

[theflyest]

That's exactly what I'm saying that's a much more sellable fight. Yes it could have been a challenge and maybe Jean was a little washed up but it would have gave Ward at that weight class with a credible opponent. Then Cleverly or Fonfara.

What's even more ridiculous is they're making this fight with two dudes who the average person doesn't know(especially Sergey)....HBO completely took the air out of a die-hard can't miss matchup...no buzz and worst two personalities to promote it. At least Cotto Canelo ( two quiet guys too) had a Mexican/PR angle with two proven names.

They better fix what's went wrong and quick cause this is ....I don't even know what it is but it's

All that once

Agreed.

I'm done ranting.

 

[George's Dilemma]

Not understanding the hate in this thread, I thoroughly enjoyed watching Ward tonight.

 

[theflyest]

Word is 32, Floyd was 28, the age difference is 7 years, in each situation, what point were you making again.

Floyd did not come up from 130, he came up from 140, couldn't make 130 at that time even he wanted to, what are you talking about.

Tim Bradley tuned up? what the hell are you talking about, only guys he fought at 147 are other 140 pounders like himself who never fought a true welterweight

Tim Bradley doesn't have many KO's like Ward that's the comparison.

If Ward wasn't KOing most of his opponents at 168 why would you expect him to do so at 175

that's not the type of fighting he is. If you never watched Ward fight before just say so, lmao at people surprised at Ward doing what Ward does

I had no desire to pick apart your post, but here goes.

Ward moved up to 175 as a "fresh" 31 year old, which was in 2015. His last fight was 2 years prior to that. I do not consider age to be relevant in this case.

Floyd moved up multiple weight classes to get to 147. Ward only moved up one weight class.

Timothy Bradley's tuneup at 147 was a guy name Luis Abregu, a guy that is significantly better than Brand. It was a very tough & ugly fight. Bradley immediately went back to 140 where he did have a bigger fight waiting.

We all know how Ward fights. He is not a KO guy. We get it. I think the issue here is that Brand was so awful that he shoulda got him out of there. Make the guy quit on his stool. Make the ref stop the fight. This nygga Brand was awful. If Ward can stop Paul Smith, another lower tier fighter, he should be able to stop Brand.

Ward & Mayweather has always been a dumb comparison. My initial post was more so directed at the people who compare them.

I'm done arguing. I will see you nyggas on November.

 

[Master Teacher]

I had no desire to pick apart your post, but here goes.

Ward moved up to 175 as a "fresh" 31 year old, which was in 2015. His last fight was 2 years prior to that. I do not consider age to be relevant in this case.

Floyd moved up multiple weight classes to get to 147. Ward only moved up one weight class.

Timothy Bradley's tuneup at 147 was a guy name Luis Abregu, a guy that is significantly better than Brand. It was a very tough & ugly fight. Bradley immediately went back to 140 where he did have a bigger fight waiting.

We all know how Ward fights. He is not a KO guy. We get. I think the issue here is that Brand was so awful that he shoulda got him out of there. Make the guy quit on his stool. Make the ref stop the fight. This nygga Brand was awful.

I'm done arguing. I will see you nyggas on November.

LMAO, Fresh 31 one year old, he was inactive with makes it worse once you hit 30.

He's 32 in this fight that's irrelevant.

Floyd didn't just jump from 130 to 147 stop lying to yourself to prove a dumb ass point. He moved up gradually over time.

Luis Abregu didn't get KO'd by Tim Bradley and that fight was shyt to even talk about it

He should've got him out of here because of what, he's job is to win, Ward is never gonna try to get out guy out of there just for to get out him out there, he's not gonna press the issue, if it comes it comes, that's ward.

You can't compare little guys to regular size fighters, it's not the same.

Moving up from 168 to 175 is a whole different beast its not comparable.

Also Floyd was a power puncher most of his career, Ward never had that type of punching ability

Floyd finished most his fights by stoppage before he went to welterweight, Ward did not stop guys most of the time at 168, it's not comparable

stop reaching with this dumb ass shyt

 

[Master Teacher]

prime example of why boxing fans ain't shyt, people in here really complaining about a fight they knew wasn't shyt to begin with

we want to see Kovalev because we want to see who's going to win, not because we're expecting to see some kind rocky balboa style slug fest

take that casual shyt somewhere else.

 

[theflyest]

LMAO, Fresh 31 one year old, he was inactive with makes it worse once you hit 30.

He's 32 in this fight that's irrelevant.

Floyd didn't just jump from 130 to 147 stop lying to yourself to prove a dumb ass point. He moved up gradually over time.

Luis Abregu didn't get KO'd by Tim Bradley and that fight was shyt to even talk about it

He should've got him out of here because of what, he's job is to win, Ward is never gonna try to get out guy out of there just for to get out him out there, he's not gonna press the issue, if it comes it comes, that's ward.

You can't compare little guys to regular size fighters, it's not the same.

Moving up from 168 to 175 is a whole different beast its not comparable.

Also Floyd was a power puncher most of his career, Ward never had that type of punching ability

Floyd finished most his fights by stoppage before he went to welterweight, Ward did not stop guys most of the time at 168, it's not comparable

stop reaching with this dumb ass shyt

Is this guy a troll? Someone educate me because I don't post here often.

When did I say Bradley KO'd Luis? I said Luis was a tougher tuneup than Brand, which is true.

This is the point. As a guy who is considered one of the top p4p guys in the sport, he should be fighting a tougher tuneup.

Ward stopped Paul Smith not too long ago. Despite not being a big puncher, it isn't unreasonable to want to see Ward KO another lower tier fighter.

 

[L68]

Is this guy a troll? Someone educate me because I don't post here often.

.

he was voted the rings WOAT for a reason..check his banner

 

[Master Teacher]

Is this guy a troll? Someone educate me because I don't post here often.

When did I say Bradley KO'd Luis? I said Luis was a tougher tuneup than Brand, which is true.

This is the point. As a guy who is considered one of the top p4p guys in the sport, he should be fighting a tougher tuneup.

Ward stopped Paul Smith not too long ago. Despite not being a big puncher, it isn't unreasonable to want to see Ward KO another lower tier fighter.

When did I say you said Bradley KO'd Luis? You want to argue so bad, you reaching around making arguments.

I brought bradley up because he has no KO power just like Ward, so expecting Ward to KO somebody after moving up in weight is expecting Bradley to do the same.

What can't you understand.

Who cares if Abregu was a better opponent, we knew this before this fight happen who cares, who want to see Kovalev, this shyt is just get Ward ring time

He KO'd the first tune up he had so you can't even compare it to bradley idiot the last guy he fought for a tune up and he was a better opponent than Brand, SO WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM

goddamn

 

[Master Teacher]

he was voted the rings WOAT for a reason..check his banner

Check his banner, what are you 12

boxing fans and boxing writers are whats wrong with this sport I swear to god

bunch of fakkits

Ward has 15 KO's for his entire career, he has NEVER GONE IN FOR THE KILL or tried to go for a KO to finish a fight, thats not him
expecting him to do that means you haven't been watching him fight at all

this is just facts

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

He took it easy on Hopkins in all honesty. Damn near the entire thread was trying to throw the towel, talking bout no 50 year old man should be taking those shots.

I still remained convinced of this. Kovalev usually remains pretty dismissive of all his opponents before a fight, but he always showed Bernard respect.

In round 12 Hopkins started clowning and Kovalev started firing power punches and had him wobbled and nearly another KD. He could have done that at any point throughout the fight, since Bernard didn't do much throughout the fight offensively and basically covered up defensively.

I know Bernard is royalty around here, but I felt Kovalev intentionally didnt try to KO Hopkins out of respect. Look at how he talked with Ward after the fight, he respects Ward. I expect in the build up to this fight for Kovalev to show Ward nothing but respect, I don't expect any shenanigans like he does with Stevenson.

 

[FreedMind]

Hold up, wasn't Ward about to be screwed out of this fight to begin with? I thought picking Brand was fairly last minute given the fact that there was rumors that HBO didn't even want to give Ward another tune up before November?

It's a tune up, Ward actually took a paycut, he's gonna fight Kovalev next. I can't get mad, and fukk fat Dan too.


He got rounds in, and given how inactive Ward has been in the past, I would think more people would find it encouraging that he's going to be in the ring 3 times in a year.

 

[Bleed The Freak]

I don't care if Ward isn't a KO artist any die-hard in knows that...this fight and opponent was inexcusable and making this a prime tv slot is ridiculous. You would think to save face they would have had a decent undercard on this. Make Ward leave Oakland and like earlier stated, he should have fought Pascal (before the 2nd Kovalev fight) Fonfara, Cleverly or Gonzalez. Heck a washed up Tavaris Cloud would've been easier to stomach than this. At least he coulda got a cute KO.

Fights like this and being ok with it is exactly why fans of this sport get shafted. Fans of this sport want fighters like Ward to get their credit and due so when something like this happens heck yeah we're upset. He likely still beats Sergey due to style but 2 out of his last 3 opponents were

 

[reservoirdogs]

I watched it this morning.
The expected outcome.

I was when Brand's ground-air uppercut had him falling on the ground

Kovalev looked clearly bigger than Ward btw maybe also because he wore white idk... but I doN't think it will affect the outcome. Ward with UD. Kovalev only has clear advantage in punching power and size.


smh at people who are whining about this fight. Sit your complaining asses down, this was a tune up for Kovalev vs Ward which comes in November as everybody knows for a time already. So why bytching about Ward fighting whoever if we surely get the big fight in November? Btw they tried to secure a fight with Shabranskyy and Skoglund too, none of them happened, so that left them with this guy.

If you really don't like it just don't watch it.
Motherfukkers out there go watch the whole fight then they complain that Brand was a bum and the fight was boring. If you already knew this before the fight (and you did) then why the fukk you bothered to watch? Maybe you just hoped for an upset but it didn't happen and now you're upset?
Does it feel good to bytch about Ward while you still can?

 

[patscorpio]

Not understanding the hate in this thread, I thoroughly enjoyed watching Ward tonight.

Have you been vocal about the fights HBO has been putting on this year? If you haven't and found ward-brand palatable then it's whatever . If you have and for some reason condone THIS fight then you're playing yourself. The card the other week that was on HBO latino with Diaz and Orozco was way better and should have got the spot ward-brand got instead of being buried on there.

 

[Bleed The Freak]

And when this fight does 97G and Ward is back on BET or PBS remember your defense of this. A tuneup is not a 39-year year old can...Paul Smith ok fine you missed 2 years cool. At least HBO made the fight go to BET.

Sullivan Berrera not bad solid Cuban dude who tried to fight who was just overmatched. THIS fight....come on now. They should have rejected this awful opponent made him fight a live body and pushed the PPV to March for recovery and buzz building.