76ers turn down Brogdon + 1st for Ben Simmons offer, will only trade him for an All-Star

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Half the thread it saying don't take Brogdon because of injuries. If injuries matter for him they matter for the team you keep bringing up. That trio can be a depleted Nets :unimpressed:We can go as long as you need to
I see there seems to be a reading comprehension hurdle...let me try to help... Can you refer to any statement of mine that mentions “Brogdons injury log” sir or are we going to continue this trolling act just to avoid stating the obvious.... That ain't beating the Nets:unimpressed:
 

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Low key they should take it.

To put into perspective how bad Simmons is:

Even with his vaunted defense, Trae Young still adjusted and averaged 30 points that series. When you combine that with Simmons's horrific offensive play (including game 6, where his numerous missed free throws aided in them blowing that lead as he couldn't score), you could argue that sthey were better off not even playing him. Letting go of Simmons is addition by subtraction in the playoffs.

Like, literally just replacing him with a guy that can score on the outside, even if they are not that great at it, is fine. Doing that will help the floor spacing dramatically, make it easier for Embiid (and he'll turn the ball over less), and help the team late in games preserve leads (as you can't play Hack Simmons).

those half court passs Ben did was pretty good though, he really moves the ball down court faster than most point guards. The problem is the divers don’t have many guys that can run with Simmons outside of Harris who’s too streaky.

I think brogon is a great fit but the sizers sight suffer defensively a bit more but with Malcolm they can probably move Seth and try to move Harris to free up salary.

Simmons is a negative offensively but he shines in other areas without the ball.
 

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This idiot refuses to improve his game for four years, shoots 30% FT and can't even be played in the final 5 minutes of a playoff game and people have the fukking audacity to say this mentally weak clown only wants to play in major markets :laff:

You gotta laugh....what's next, he demands a no trade clause? :deadrose:
 

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I see there seems to be a reading comprehension hurdle...let me try to help... Can you refer to any statement of mine that mentions “Brogdons injury log” sir or are we going to continue this trolling act just to avoid stating the obvious.... That ain't beating the Nets:unimpressed:
CP3/Curry/Dame is not being exchanged for Simmons. I don't care what you said, you're lock-step with posters who think they need to pass on Brogdon due to injury as if All-Pro point guards are within reach.

So what is your answer to the Sixers problems if you can't get over the fact that nobody is beating a 2K team?
 

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CP3/Curry/Dame is not being exchanged for Simmons. I don't care what you said, you're lock-step with posters who think they need to pass on Brogdon due to injury as if All-Pro point guards are within reach.
Which is why you're reduced to posting incoherent babble instead of sticking to the facts...thats ACTUAL trolling... My point is that the team with the Brogdan wouldn't elevate them beyond the elite of their conference which supposedly isn't he whole reason to trade Ben in the first place...nothing to do with “injury logs” or whatever nonsense you're trying to make up... If you believe making a trade just to make a trade is wise that's your prerogative but it doesn't change the facts of my observation.... If you would have actually got out of your feelings of wanting to be right so bad this conversation could have been had clarity :unimpressed:


So what is your answer to the Sixers problems if you can't get over the fact that nobody is beating a 2K team?
There is no immediate quick fix answer...this isn't a video game... Which is why their mentality should be to get as large of a package for Ben as possible because you may need to use those assets for a secondary or tertiary move in the future to actually get that so called missing link for embiid... Deals like the Brogdon one will always be on the table as long as Ben is healthy
 

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Which is why you're reduced to posting incoherent babble instead of sticking to the facts...thats ACTUAL trolling... My point is that the team with the Brogdan wouldn't elevate them beyond the elite of their conference which supposedly isn't he whole reason to trade Ben in the first place...nothing to do with “injury logs” or whatever nonsense you're trying to make up... If you believe making a trade just to make a trade is wise that's your prerogative but it doesn't change the facts of my observation.... If you would have actually got out of your feelings of wanting to be right so bad this conversation could have been had clarity :unimpressed:



There is no immediate quick fix answer...this isn't a video game... Which is why their mentality should be to get as large of a package for Ben as possible because you may need to use those assets for a secondary or tertiary move in the future to actually get that so called missing link for embiid... Deals like the Brogdon one will always be on the table as long as Ben is healthy
It will alway be on the table because a better caliber of player is not being commanded by a 180M point guard who can't play 4th quarters. You throwing in "can't beat Nets" is a smart ass way of saying you incorrectly believe a broken overpaid player is more valuable than you think because you already know there's no move for any Eastern team to make if KD-Harden-Kyrie are all healthy next May.

There's no "incoherent babble" here. The point of the trade is get rid of a player who's proven to work against the Sixers goals despite his personal accolades and resulting contract and has lost the trust of his MVP-level teammate and head coach. The Nets are a bridge to be crossed later.
 

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:unimpressed: the Issue with Morey is he trying to win every trade over helping his team win he not going to get a player of harden talent for Ben again.
 

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It will alway be on the table because a better caliber of player is not being commanded by a 180M point guard who can't play 4th quarters.

This is the incoherent babble that I was mentioning earlier... Indiana is not making their offer because “a better caliber player is not being commanded” blah blah blah... That's not their problem that would be Phillys issue... Indiana is making that alleged offer because they WANT Simmons as he has value to certain front offices.. Until you can wrap your brain around that factually accurate concept your logic will continue to fail you at square 1 :unimpressed:



You throwing in "can't beat Nets" is a smart ass way of saying you incorrectly believe a broken overpaid player is more valuable than you think because you already know there's no move for any Eastern team to make if KD-Harden-Kyrie are all healthy next May.

I'll be a smartass over a dumbass any day of the week...lol... But what I personally feel about that teams prospects of beating Brooklyn is really besides the point... The point is..do you or don't you believe Daryl Morey..the shot caller... will make moves with the Nets top of mind as his teams biggest threat to get out of the east? If you believe the answer is no... I think you're going to be in for a disappointing result in this whole process :unimpressed:




There's no "incoherent babble" here.

30 seconds later....


The Nets are a bridge to be crossed later.


:mjlol:like I said to you before...if the actual real NBA front office perception of what Ben’s value was what you're sensationalizing it as.. he would have been traded for a bag of chips a long time ago... But clearly with teams willing to give up quality players for his services such as Malcolm Brogdon that's apparently not the case... I'm sorry those facts hurt your feels or whatever but unless you think Brogdon isn't a good player it's pretty clear other team's still value Simmons enough to make sizeable offers for him... Offers which the sixers would be wise to take their time on and maximize their return... Which it looks like they're doing :unimpressed:
 

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The sooner you accept the fact that different people/ coaches / front office members value players differently than your personal opinions.. The better your basketball takes will be brother


Stay Blessed

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:sas2: I tried to tell him that when i bump the rockets trade harden to nets thread.. 76ers tried to fukk the rockets over
 

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Now that I think about it. I’m not mad at the 76ers for turning this one down. I think the Pacers could strengthen this deal.

Brogdon is injury prone albeit extremely efficient but I’ll be real. Joel every time he hits the ground makes me think he’s hurt…

that #10 pick is of value as they could likely use that pick for a salary controlled player but they are in win now mode so they could package it with a player or two and bring in an upgrade maybe a scoring threat or defensive specialist.

I’m positive that the pacers could improve on the offer.

the teams I think are the best fits for Ben and realistic right now are my Cavs, twolves, and Portland. And all 3 teams have something in common market wise. The blazers would probably be the best candidate.
 
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