7/29/2023 Showtime PPV presents The King of Fighters: Errol 'The Truth' Spence Jr vs Terence 'Bud' Crawford(WBC/WBA/IBF/WBO/Ring/Lineal 147 titles)

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Holy shyt I had NO IDEA that Spence was in not one but TWO serious car accidents.
Yeah there was a lot controversy behind the first crash depending on who you talk to.

As far as the fight, it was mostly Spence fans there and after the 1st round you could hear a rat piss on cotton. I could tell even watching it on TV, it was a more of a pro spence crowd. Anytime he threw anything and Bud clearly blocked it, the crowd would still yell.
 

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Before the fight :damn::pacspit:











After the fight :mjcry::to::mjlol:
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Yeah, he used to say that. He’d say that once he gets in the ring with you he knows what you’re going to do.















Floyd was 🧢, though. I think it was one of those things that Floyd would say to increase his image/brand on some, “I don’t even write raps, I freestyle all my verses,” shyt. It’s akin to him being on 24/7 buying a whole bunch of candy in Walmart (I believe), drinking soda at open workouts, sparring with no headgear on a few days before the fight not worried about being cut, etc. Like, “I’m this fukking goooood.” I think it’s one of those things he said that wasn’t really true, but boosted his image.
i really dont think he watched tape outside of maybe the pacquaio fight. A lot was riding on that, and even tho he won easily, it wasnt his best peformance.

I think with every other fight, he feels out how your timing and how you're gonna fight for da first couple rounds and then just takes whatever openings his opponent gives him.

Floyd's mental is underrated. He really doesnt think anyone can fukk with him in the ring
 

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There's nothing hyperbolic about that at all. You got boxing legends in disbelief at what they saw. Athletes from all sports in shock. Saying it was the greatest performance they ever seen. That's not an exaggeration.

What bud did on Saturday was one of the greatest athletic performances of all time. Definitely the greatest boxing performance I've ever seen with my own eyes. Bud did Errol Spence worse than Floyd did Arturo gatti. Let that sink in. That bud could beat any welterweight that ever lived. Now would he?....We'll never know. But he most definitely could.


Man, I don’t know how old you are but I’ve been watching boxing a long ass time now. I’m way closer to 40 than 30, and I’ve been following the sport since childhood. My father was a big boxing fan so he had me watching it early. That was a great performance from Crawford. Bud looked tremendous, but it’s really speaks to how WELL he was prepared for Spence’s specific style. You’re taking one singular fight and trying to extrapolate it to some all-time standard no one has reached at WW, and you should know that’s improbable because boxing doesn’t work that way. What’s that thing they say? Styles make fights? You could have put that same Crawford in there against prime Winky Wright, and he’d look way less dominating than he did against Spence.

Now, if Crawford looked like that every fight, I’d agree with you, but he doesn’t. You need a bigger body of work than one single ass fight to be the “standard” or the “mile marker” for the entire history of the division. It’s not like horse racing or something where if horse sets a record time on a course/grounds… the horse that then runs a faster time by default is the fastest horse we’ve ever seen run this course.

Boxing is way more nuanced than that. Is Spence shot from years of cutting weight? shyt. Could be. Is his punch resistance completely gone? Could be. He was getting rocked by jabs. Spence had a bad training camp? Possible! And so on and so on. And here you are on this lovely Monday morning talking about one lone, single, solitary style that Team Crawford literally pulled out all the stops to minimize, and Bud looked great doing it, was the greatest welter weight we’ve ever seen.

You need to be stopped. :gucci:
 

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Get outta here with this bullshyt :mjlol: ....if Errol was so worried about weight he shouldn't have ducked bud for 5 years. Bud was calling him out when he was still at 140 and Errol still didn't want it. Errols the one who chose to stay at welterweight. At 154 he'll get beat even worse. Errols style is not built for 154. He can't bully anybody up there. Same reason Golovkin never moved up.

Errols whole style was based on breaking down smaller guys with his bigger frame to make up for his basic boxing skills. And it finally came back to bite him in the ass. At 154 bud knocks him out within 5 rounds. Spence will never be the same again mentally or physically. Not even spiritually. He gonna need some demon souls type potions to fukk with bud.
Hyperbolic nonsense. If Spence wants the rematch, it should happen. Period.

It's in contract anyway
 

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And make no mistake. David benavidez will be the next one to be exposed:sas2:.....another one dimensional weight bully who's gonna meet the right one in the very near future. You PBC Stanley's better learn from this experience:sas1:
 

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Before the fight :damn::pacspit:











After the fight :mjcry::to::mjlol:
You do understand most Spence are still in shock about how Spence looked and not so much about Crawford, right?

The more I get away from the fight, the more I realize Crawford didn't do anything extra special.

This fight was more about what Spence didn't/couldn't do than anything Crawford did.
 

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Man, I don’t know how old you are but I’ve been watching boxing a long ass time now. I’m way closer to 40 than 30, and I’ve been following the sport since childhood. My father was a big boxing fan so he had me watching it early. That was a great performance from Crawford. Bud looked tremendous, but it’s really speaks to how WELL he was prepared for Spence’s specific style. You’re taking one singular fight and trying to extrapolate it to some all-time standard no one has reached at WW, and you should know that’s improbable because boxing doesn’t work that way. What’s that thing they say? Styles make fights? You could have put that same Crawford in there against prime Winky Wright, and he’d look way less dominating than he did against Spence.

Now, if Crawford looked like that every fight, I’d agree with you, but he doesn’t. You need a bigger body of work than one single ass fight to be the “standard” or the “mile marker” for the entire history of the division. It’s not like horse racing or something where if horse sets a record time on a course/grounds… the horse that then runs a faster time by default is the fastest horse we’ve ever seen run this course.

Boxing is way more nuanced than that. Is Spence shot from years of cutting weight? shyt. Could be. Is his punch resistance completely gone? Could be. He was getting rocked by jabs. Spence had a bad training camp? Possible! And so on and so on. And here you are on this lovely Monday morning talking about one lone, single, solitary style that Team Crawford literally pulled out all the stops to minimize, and Bud looked great doing it, was the greatest welter weight we’ve ever seen.

You need to be stopped. :gucci:
I'm closer to 40 too. I've seen all the welterweights in those times. I was on sohh with the og's in Floyd fight threads when his threads could barely get 20 replies. His Arturo gatti fight thread didn't even get 50 replies. Hand to god.

Never seen a boxing performance on that level. Period. People always look at the past with rose colored glasses. Bud can 100% beat any welterweight that ever lived. Now can he dominate them?....of course not. That's not what I'm saying. But he CAN beat them. He's 50-50 with Floyd. Sugar ray. Hearns. Duran. Winky. All of em. If you don't agree that's fine. But I know what I see in bud. And he's live against all of em.

And I have no idea why you brought up winky wright. Winky was my favorite fighter on sohh. This been known. Of course bud couldn't dominate him. That's a true 50-50 fight. Have no idea why you would even make that statement. Matter of fact, winky would dominate Spence just like he did Tito. It would be an embarrassment. Winky vs bud is an all time level fight that could go either way. And coming from me. The biggest winky fan on the boards back in the day. That's saying something.
 

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The version of Spence we saw on Saturday loses to a lot of fighters, not just Crawford. He was slow and lacked pop.

For a man that's never been cut from a punch or knocked down, safe to say he was in state he's never been before.
 
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