7-22 Terence Crawford signs contract to face Viktor Postol in a WBC/WBO 140 title unification fight

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Uhhhhh you heard of this guy named Manny Pacquiao? Filipino dude moving up in weight classes with pretty fast hands.....

And Thurman just was in a 12 round fight where he landed 40-50% of his power punches against Shawn Porter and didn't drop him once (or really mark him up) so that one time applies to lesser fighters really.

Come on Smoke. Porter's chin is the real deal bro. Any other fighter or a lesser man would've went down from the shots Thurman landed on him. I'm surprised he didn't break his hand.
 

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I like Bud but I don't think he'd be as effective at WW & I believe Jr. Welter is probably his ceiling at his current high level.
Thurman is a huge WW with speed, accuracy, & power. He's a totally different kind of beast that Bud hasn't seen before. Thurman's the naturally larger guy with almost as much skill. To me it's a similar situation with the Gamboa fight where the just as skilled naturally bigger fighter won the fight. Thurman's punches will most definitely hurt Bud.
Idk I think he could beat Thurman right now. Just based on the eye test. Crawford seems a little faster, more composed with more ring IQ and adaptability, have a better defense, seems more accurate... Only things Thurman has over him are punching power and size imo add to that that while he punches stronger, he is less accurate with it so...


I think you are too cautious to put him up with the best ww's but honestly. Crawford is already a big jr ww and there will be no consternation for him once he's facing these guys. They are just the natural next step they are not heads and shoulders above the likes of Postol. They are better but as I said not so significantly to cause Crawford that big of a problems imo... Thinking bout Danny, Thurman and Porter here who I think round the same level atm all of them with different styles which works against different people.

I was higher on Thurman two years ago or so but his mistakes been exposed since. He is still a very good fighter but he lets too easily others to bully him and doesn't react good to getting hit at all. Looks like he starts panicking. So he has some defensive holes and he doesn't react good when he gets hit.

Porter is rugged af and awkward to anyone just based off of his fighting style and sheer physical power but with nicely placed, good counters he could be taken out imo, that's something Thurman failed to do imo... He countered him hard sometimes but not enough times, his luck that many judges tend to give the rounds to a fighter who has the more eye catching shots even if he's getting outworked otherwise.

Danny is a nice fighter but I feel like he would be overrated and his limitations are very visible imo. To put it simple, he can't cut off the rind and doesn't like to box front foot. He is flat footed and his handspeed is also mediocre at best. His defense is solid but nothing spectacular he ca be tagged. His timing and chin are outstanding though and they are pared with good punching power and accuracy to close distance.

The hardest out of these for Crawfod would be Thurman imo but I would pick Crawford with a closer than Postol (8-4 maybe) UD.
 

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Ehhhhhh

Just because you don't ride with #BandCamp doesn't mean you can't be a Broner fan breh.

I'm not a huge Broner fan, but I still root for the guy. Just because you're a fan doesn't mean you can't be objective :manny:

And my breh @Newzz literally rides for AB about almost anything, it's not a surprise he gets tagged. shyt I expect all the mentions n quotes when BATB loses or news comes up. I guess it's just easier to be objective about him, #BeterBeast, #HammerHead #MikeyMafia than AB. Because AB is a very polarizing figure.

First off fam it's #AboutBillions

2nd....

:mjlol: at you telling me about being objective. I'm prolly the most objective nikka on here.

I feel what you saying, but that was just a general post. I see shyt like that often so I just put it out there. If you don't do that, then it's not for you.
 

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Ehhhhhh

Just because you don't ride with #BandCamp doesn't mean you can't be a Broner fan breh.

I'm not a huge Broner fan, but I still root for the guy. Just because you're a fan doesn't mean you can't be objective :manny:

And my breh @Newzz literally rides for AB about almost anything, it's not a surprise he gets tagged. shyt I expect all the mentions n quotes when BATB loses or news comes up. I guess it's just easier to be objective about him, #BeterBeast, #HammerHead #MikeyMafia than AB. Because AB is a very polarizing figure.
tbh I never liked Broner, not even before his flaws got exposed

He always seemed to me even when he was in lower classes like a little more offensive minded Mayweather knockoff who learned how to stand in a shoulder roll and is naturally gifted but lacks the ring IQ and the needed professional mentality. :manny:
His out ring behaviour and whole clown media persona also not sympathetic for me. I also picked Maidana to beat him and I was right. I don't view Broner as an elite fighter, not anymore.
His success in lower weights was also partially because of his size advantage over those guys imo and even there he struggled sometimes. I've never been on his train and I don't even root for him, I don't find a cause why I should. There are so many other fighters I like and are sympathetic for me. :ld: Rigo, Crawford, Bradley, Canelo, Ward, Andrade, Joshua, Walters, Porter, etc... for me there are way too many talents and good fighters to cry over one of them went stray...
 

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Come on Smoke. Porter's chin is the real deal bro. Any other fighter or a lesser man would've went down from the shots Thurman landed on him. I'm surprised he didn't break his hand.

I'm not knocking Keith breh. But dude I quoted said all he needs is one time. Porters got a granite chin no doubt. Guerreros got a pretty good chin too. Who's the last cat he knocked out at 147?
 

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First off fam it's #AboutBillions

2nd....

:mjlol: at you telling me about being objective. I'm prolly the most objective nikka on here.

I feel what you saying, but that was just a general post. I see shyt like that often so I just put it out there. If you don't do that, then it's not for you.
Oh breh I wasn't taking shots at you either, just talking in general.
 

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Idk I think he could beat Thurman right now. Just based on the eye test. Crawford seems a little faster, more composed with more ring IQ and adaptability, have a better defense, seems more accurate... Only things Thurman has over him are punching power and size imo add to that that while he punches stronger, he is less accurate with it so...


I think you are too cautious to put him up with the best ww's but honestly. Crawford is already a big jr ww and there will be no consternation for him once he's facing these guys. They are just the natural next step they are not heads and shoulders above the likes of Postol. They are better but as I said not so significantly to cause Crawford that big of a problems imo... Thinking bout Danny, Thurman and Porter here who I think round the same level atm all of them with different styles which works against different people.

I was higher on Thurman two years ago or so but his mistakes been exposed since. He is still a very good fighter but he lets too easily others to bully him and doesn't react good to getting hit at all. Looks like he starts panicking. So he has some defensive holes and he doesn't react good when he gets hit.

Porter is rugged af and awkward to anyone just based off of his fighting style and sheer physical power but with nicely placed, good counters he could be taken out imo, that's something Thurman failed to do imo... He countered him hard sometimes but not enough times, his luck that many judges tend to give the rounds to a fighter who has the more eye catching shots even if he's getting outworked otherwise.

Danny is a nice fighter but I feel like he would be overrated and his limitations are very visible imo. To put it simple, he can't cut off the rind and doesn't like to box front foot. He is flat footed and his handspeed is also mediocre at best. His defense is solid but nothing spectacular he ca be tagged. His timing and chin are outstanding though and they are pared with good punching power and accuracy to close distance.

The hardest out of these for Crawfod would be Thurman imo but I would pick Crawford with a closer than Postol (8-4 maybe) UD.

I think you might be underestimating the size difference between the two & not height wise either. Porter had a harder time bullying Thurman than AB & Brook so that should tell you about his strength, punching power & physicality. Also you can't count out the ring rust & the fact that he fought a stupid fight which made it entertaining for us but a harder fight for himself. Thurman has the ability to put Crawfords lights out with one shot, for real
 

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I'm not knocking Keith breh. But dude I quoted said all he needs is one time. Porters got a granite chin no doubt. Guerreros got a pretty good chin too. Who's the last cat he knocked out at 147?

Soto-Karas I think. Collazo has/d a good chin himself outside of the Khan fight. He's fought just about everyone & not gone down. He's fought Sugar Shane, Berto, Hatton, & Ortiz. All guys who aren't feather fisted.
 

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I like Bud but I don't think he'd be as effective at WW & I believe Jr. Welter is probably his ceiling at his current high level.
Thurman is a huge WW with speed, accuracy, & power. He's a totally different kind of beast that Bud hasn't seen before. Thurman's the naturally larger guy with almost as much skill. To me it's a similar situation with the Gamboa fight where the just as skilled naturally bigger fighter won the fight. Thurman's punches will most definitely hurt Bud.
I don't entirely disagree with you but the Gamboa comparison is really ridiculous bruh...

There is no fighter in the sport right now as complete as Craw...Not saying he dont have some aspects of his game he needs to work on but offensively and defensively I see nothing that can make one think he can't handle 147...He's in all honesty on another level compared to the rest of these guys a lot like Floyd was...Floyd had his human moments to when he got tagged, nikkas even thought he lost to Castillo...Too small for 147 they said...

SIZE don't make fights, STYLES do...
 

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Soto-Karas I think. Collazo has/d a good chin himself outside of the Khan fight. He's fought just about everyone & not gone down. He's fought Sugar Shane, Berto, Hatton, & Ortiz. All guys who aren't feather fisted.

Shane and Hatton both dropped Collazo, but he's still tough as hell. I thought Berto almost had him out in the final round, but he weathered that shyt like a champ.

I'd rank Thurman's stoppage of Chaves over the Soto Karass one though.
 

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I don't entirely disagree with you but the Gamboa comparison is really ridiculous bruh...

There is no fighter in the sport right now as complete as Craw...Not saying he dont have some aspects of his game he needs to work on but offensively and defensively I see nothing that can make one think he can't handle 147...He's in all honesty on another level compared to the rest of these guys a lot like Floyd was...Floyd had his human moments to when he got tagged, nikkas even thought he lost to Castillo...Too small for 147 they said...

SIZE don't make fights, STYLES do...

Bro, if size didn't matter then Khan should've beat Canelo right? Or how about Alexis Arguello when he moved up from the lower weight classes & fought Aaron Pryor? He was putting guys to sleep & Pryor grinded him down & stopped him. There's a reason at some of these lower wight classes that a few pounds separate these fighters. It makes a HUGE difference. Also check out the Bobby Cycz fight against Andrew Maynard at light heavy. Cycz had issues making the limit & negotiated a few pounds over because it took a lot to make it. Maynard was a young up & coming gold medal cocky fighter that thought it wouldn't make a difference. Maynard got beat up & stopped because Cycz didn't have to try to make the limit fam. More times than not, the bigger skilled fighter usually beats the smaller skilled fighter because of the weight & strength difference.
 

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Shane and Hatton both dropped Collazo, but he's still tough as hell. I thought Berto almost had him out in the final round, but he weathered that shyt like a champ.

I'd rank Thurman's stoppage of Chaves over the Soto Karass one though.

I remember both those fights bro & neither was legit. Especially the Hatton one where I thought Collazo won the fight

Edit*** The Shane fight was more of an off balance knockdown but it was legit
 
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I remember both those fights bro & neither was legit. Especially the Hatton one where I thought Collazo won the fight

Edit*** The Shane fight was more of an off balance knockdown but it was legit

I feel you, neither were great knockdowns,but they were legit.

I think Hatton caught him squared up or something, but it was like a flash knockdown if I'm recalling it correctly. That shyt also helped him win the fight. I thought he lost too, but that extra point let him get it by the skin of his teeth.
 
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