7-22 Terence Crawford signs contract to face Viktor Postol in a WBC/WBO 140 title unification fight

[The Fukin Prophecy]

Bro, if size didn't matter then Khan should've beat Canelo right? Or how about Alexis Arguello when he moved up from the lower weight classes & fought Aaron Pryor? He was putting guys to sleep & Pryor grinded him down & stopped him. There's a reason at some of these lower wight classes that a few pounds separate these fighters. It makes a HUGE difference. Also check out the Bobby Cycz fight against Andrew Maynard at light heavy. Cycz had issues making the limit & negotiated a few pounds over because it took a lot to make it. Maynard was a young up & coming gold medal cocky fighter that thought it wouldn't make a difference. Maynard got beat up & stopped because Cycz didn't have to try to make the limit fam. More times than not, the bigger skilled fighter usually beats the smaller skilled fighter because of the weight & strength difference.

Its not all about size and power bruh...

Con always been a glass jawed idiot...He didn't lose to Canelo because of size...He lost to Canelo because he ran out of gas and got his glass jaw shattered...

Size also had little to do with Arguello and Pryor...Hawks style, specifically his workrate was what overwhelmed Arguello not size or power...That's why Arguello team was crying about the "mix" that bytchmade fakkit Panama made...In the second fight Arguello was a defeated man so I don't count that...

Back to moving up in weight though...Im not sayinf there wont be an impact unless Craw on them Ariza shakes...

Normal fighters always lose a little something moving up...Floyd was koing dudes at a 70% clip before moving up...The power wasn't there anymore at 147 but he was still schooling everybody because STYLES make fights...Craw is cut from that same cloth...

 

[mr. smoke weed]

Its not all about size and power bruh...

Con always been a glass jawed idiot...He didn't lose to Canelo because of size...He lost to Canelo because he ran out of gas and got his glass jaw shattered...

Size also had little to do with Arguello and Pryor...Hawks style, specifically his workrate was what overwhelmed Arguello not size or power...That's why Arguello team was crying about the "mix" that bytchmade fakkit Panama made...In the second fight Arguello was a defeated man so I don't count that...

Back to moving up in weight though...Im not sayinf there wont be an impact unless Craw on them Ariza shakes...

Normal fighters always lose a little something moving up...Floyd was koing dudes at a 70% clip before moving up...The power wasn't there anymore at 147 but he was still schooling everybody because STYLES make fights...Craw is cut from that same cloth...

Craw's got a more complete game than Thurman. However, Thurman moves comparable to Crawford (although he expends more energy), with a bigger frame. Hypothetically, as this all is, Crawford is most susceptible in the first few rounds, and Thurman comes out throwing heat as soon as the fight starts. I think that's a 50/50 style match up.

I also, despite thinking Crawford has some very elite attributes--including always switching to southpaw, the cats he fight aren't really prepared for him to fight Southpaw. As soon as T-Craw switched up (:30 in the first round) Postol went I'd say just off memory he's fought 80% of his rounds recently South paw.

 

[Knicksman20]

Its not all about size and power bruh...

Con always been a glass jawed idiot...He didn't lose to Canelo because of size...He lost to Canelo because he ran out of gas and got his glass jaw shattered...

Size also had little to do with Arguello and Pryor...Hawks style, specifically his workrate was what overwhelmed Arguello not size or power...That's why Arguello team was crying about the "mix" that bytchmade fakkit Panama made...In the second fight Arguello was a defeated man so I don't count that...

Back to moving up in weight though...Im not sayinf there wont be an impact unless Craw on them Ariza shakes...

Normal fighters always lose a little something moving up...Floyd was koing dudes at a 70% clip before moving up...The power wasn't there anymore at 147 but he was still schooling everybody because STYLES make fights...Craw is cut from that same cloth...

I agree fam to a point though. The same shots Arguello was landing on Pryor in their fight was putting guys to sleep at LW & under. His punches didn't have the same effect & you have to be able to keep a bigger fighter off you or at least get their respect; especially a fighter who's on par skill wise. I don't know if Bud could do that with Thurman or any of the top 5 guys at WW because of the strength difference. The same shots moving Postol probably won't move the top guys whereas the guys at WW shots WILL affect Bud more. And about Khan, fam you said skills wins fights not size right? If Canelo size didn't help him what did? Same is probably gonna happen to Kell Brook at little g.

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

Craw's got a more complete game than Thurman. However, Thurman moves comparable to Crawford (although he expends more energy), with a bigger frame. Hypothetically, as this all is, Crawford is most susceptible in the first few rounds, and Thurman comes out throwing heat as soon as the fight starts. I think that's a 50/50 style match up.

I also, despite thinking Crawford has some very elite attributes--including always switching to southpaw, the cats he fight aren't really prepared for him to fight Southpaw. As soon as T-Craw switched up (:30 in the first round) Postol went I'd say just off memory he's fought 80% of his rounds recently South paw.

All valid points fam...

I agree fam to a point though. The same shots Arguello was landing on Pryor in their fight was putting guys to sleep at LW & under. His punches didn't have the same effect & you have to be able to keep a bigger fighter off you or at least get their respect; especially a fighter who's on par skill wise. I don't know if Bud could do that with Thurman or any of the top 5 guys at WW because of the strength difference. The same shots moving Postol probably won't move the top guys whereas the guys at WW shots WILL affect Bud more. And about Khan, fam you said skills wins fights not size right? If Canelo size didn't help him what did? Same is probably gonna happen to Kell Brook at little g.

The fact that Nelo is one of the best boxer punchers in the sport right now ?

Of course size had an impact but the better boxer won that fight...

Con is just a clown with hand speed...As soon as he slowed down he got put to sleep...Swift didn't have a size advantage and he put Con to sleep the sameway Nelo did...

 

[GzUp]

All valid points fam...


The fact that Nelo is one of the best boxer punchers in the sport right now ?

Of course size had an impact but the better boxer won that fight...

Con is just a clown with hand speed...As soon as he slowed down he got put to sleep...Swift didn't have a size advantage and he put Con to sleep the sameway Nelo did...

Floyd stop koing people cuz of hand problems, he used to wear Reyes punchers gloves too, then hand problems came and switched to grants.

 

[reservoirdogs]

Sorry @reservoirdogs , while I agree Crawford is a big JWW with elite skills, Thurman would beat him. It's always been said t craw has shaky whiskers, I wouldn't trust him to withstand Thurmans power, combined with skill.

fair enough, I disagree but we will see
One year ago I would probably picked Thurman too but since then Crawford impressed me eve more and Thurman did not, in fact he slightly disappointed me.

 

[reservoirdogs]

I think you might be underestimating the size difference between the two & not height wise either. Porter had a harder time bullying Thurman than AB & Brook so that should tell you about his strength, punching power & physicality. Also you can't count out the ring rust & the fact that he fought a stupid fight which made it entertaining for us but a harder fight for himself. Thurman has the ability to put Crawfords lights out with one shot, for real

I don't think that Thurman would be that much heavier fight night, I doN't find his ring weight. Crawford is a little higher and also has a little longer reach so...

Broner yes, Book no.

Do you think he intentionally fought like that? idk... These "I fought for the fans that's why I got y ass beat" explanations are usually shaky to me Except Bradley vs Provodnikov of course but Bradley is an idiot sometimes as much as I love him...

and of course he has as he ca KO almost anyone with one punch in he division but there were multiple people so far who went full time with him and Crawford would have the best defense out of all his opponents so far so in my opinion he couldn't land that one punch.



btw I don't want to slander One Time or anything he seems like a really decent guy and also a hell of a fighter it's just simply that he seems to be less good ha I thought before...

 

[Knicksman20]

The fact that Nelo is one of the best boxer punchers in the sport right now ?

Of course size had an impact but the better boxer won that fight...

Con is just a clown with hand speed...As soon as he slowed down he got put to sleep...Swift didn't have a size advantage and he put Con to sleep the sameway Nelo did...

Say what you want about Khan (I don't like him either) but he has skills. His chin will always fail him so maybe that might not have been the best example. How about Bob Foster when he was the top LHW & went to HW & challenged Joe Frazier? How about Nonito vs Walters? Sugar Shane vs Winky Wright? Tito vs Hopkins? I can name many more bro but do you see a pattern? Skilled smaller fighters moving up in weight taking on skilled naturally bigger guys & losing.

 

[Knicksman20]

I don't think that Thurman would be that much heavier fight night, I doN't find his ring weight. Crawford is a little higher and also has a little longer reach so...

Broner yes, Book no.

Do you think he intentionally fought like that? idk... These "I fought for the fans that's why I got y ass beat" explanations are usually shaky to me Except Bradley vs Provodnikov of course but Bradley is an idiot sometimes as much as I love him...

and of course he has as he ca KO almost anyone with one punch in he division but there were multiple people so far who went full time with him and Crawford would have the best defense out of all his opponents so far so in my opinion he couldn't land that one punch.



btw I don't want to slander One Time or anything he seems like a really decent guy and also a hell of a fighter it's just simply that he seems to be less good ha I thought before...

Not just weight wise but strong physically & his physicality. Thurman's a strong WW.

The one thing Brook did different than Thurman against Porter was clinch in the inside or get his punches off & then clinch. Thurman fought off the ropes when he could've clinched & probably be more effective in stifling Porter's offense. It made for a better fight but was kind of a stupid strategy.

Thurman didn't use his jab bruh & he even admitted that in a post fight interview. He decided to out bomb Porter which he did. Had he used his jab to setup his power punches Porter would've hit the canvas at least once in their fight.

Bud's defense is leaky early & at other times throughout his fights. He's not that hard to touch if you can move (he also has lapses) which Thurman can clearly move & punch off the back foot if need be. Bud is not a defense wizard by any means & moving like he did against Postol will not work against Thurman who moves just as well if not better than him. To me it'll take a fighter with specific attributes in order to beat Thurman.

 

[reservoirdogs]

Not just weight wise but strong physically & his physicality. Thurman's a strong WW.

The one thing Brook did different than Thurman against Porter was clinch in the inside or get his punches off & then clinch. Thurman fought off the ropes when he could've clinched & probably be more effective in stifling Porter's offense. It made for a better fight but was kind of a stupid strategy.

Thurman didn't use his jab bruh & he even admitted that in a post fight interview. He decided to out bomb Porter which he did. Had he used his jab to setup his power punches Porter would've hit the canvas at least once in their fight.

Bud's defense is leaky early & at other times throughout his fights. He's not that hard to touch if you can move (he also has lapses) which Thurman can clearly move & punch off the back foot if need be. Bud is not a defense wizard by any means & moving like he did against Postol will not work against Thurman who moves just as well if not better than him. To me it'll take a fighter with specific attributes in order to beat Thurman.

Fine
I hope we will see this fight one day

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

Say what you want about Khan (I don't like him either) but he has skills. His chin will always fail him so maybe that might not have been the best example. How about Bob Foster when he was the top LHW & went to HW & challenged Joe Frazier? How about Nonito vs Walters? Sugar Shane vs Winky Wright? Tito vs Hopkins? I can name many more bro but do you see a pattern? Skilled smaller fighters moving up in weight taking on skilled naturally bigger guys & losing.

Of course I see a pattern my dude, I never denied weight as a factor... all I'm telling you is styles make fights...

No version of Shane could of ever beat Winky just like he could never beat Vernon Forrest...Those two are bad style matchups for Shane hence why he struggled against both of them (Winky fights were close)...Same applies to Tito and Hopkins...Size isn't what neutralized Tito who put Joppy ass to sleep with a vicious right hand the fight before Hopkins...Hopkins ability to box around Tito is what neutralized him...Yes size played a role but the deciding factor was style...

 

[Knicksman20]

Of course I see a pattern my dude, I never denied weight as a factor... all I'm telling you is styles make fights...

No version of Shane could of ever beat Winky just like he could never beat Vernon Forrest...Those two are bad style matchups for Shane hence why he struggled against both of them (Winky fights were close)...Same applies to Tito and Hopkins...Size isn't what neutralized Tito who put Joppy ass to sleep with a vicious right hand the fight before Hopkins...Hopkins ability to box around Tito is what neutralized him...Yes size played a role but the deciding factor was style...

Again bruh I think you're underestimating the size differences with these fighters. All of the examples of fighters I gave you are highly skilled boxers that ran into another skilled fighter that was naturally bigger than them. I'm a firm believer of styles make fights but again, the size & skill of the bigger fighters plays a huge role in the outcome of these fights. More times than not, the highly skilled bigger fighter beats the highly skilled smaller fighter.

 

[Knicksman20]

@patscorpio we gotta great debate going on in here bro. Hop in & give your thoughts

 

[firemanBk]

Terence Crawford would beat anyone at 147 mark my words. Top challenges would be Kell Brook and Errol Spence. The rest are too basic and are just flat out not special. People in here talking about Thurman who'sa good fighter and that's all. Extremely overrated as a puncher too. One Time became Some Times as soon as the competition picked up. Last part will come across as hate hut I have no issue with Thurman. I just don't think he's anywhere near the puncher he's hyped as and he's not on Bud's level as a boxer

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

Again bruh I think you're underestimating the size differences with these fighters. All of the examples of fighters I gave you are highly skilled boxers that ran into another skilled fighter that was naturally bigger than them. I'm a firm believer of styles make fights but again, the size & skill of the bigger fighters plays a huge role in the outcome of these fights. More times than not, the highly skilled bigger fighter beats the highly skilled smaller fighter.

What's that old saying go like.....It takes a great small fighter to beat a good big fighter.

I feel where you coming from.

Khan got some nice attributes, but he's not more skilled than Canelo. Not even counting his chin, but that footwork that he can't seem to control makes problems for himself all the time. His feet will be moving away, but he's still punching and vice versa. Plus his overall defense is average as hell.

Shane prolly had more natural talent and attributes than Winky, but Winky definitely had more skills. His size and strength helped reinforced his gameplan, so it did play a part, but that jab and defense is what made shyt happen.

Ditto for Tito and Hopkins. Tito never beat someone bigger than himself that had more skills.

Usually if the bigger guy is more skilled, he pretty much dominates the smaller guy. It's like double the advantage

Roy beating Ruiz is a good example of a great fighter with more skills beating a good fighter (ok Ruiz, being good is a stretch, but he was a solid B level guy, decent heavy)

Duran beating Barkely is up there too.