whats the current sides of the debate? ill chime in later tonight..i just finished the last of my meetings with my contractors..about to head out to the gym and get this workout in
7-22 Terence Crawford signs contract to face Viktor Postol in a WBC/WBO 140 title unification fight
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What's that old saying go like.....It takes a great small fighter to beat a good big fighter.
I feel where you coming from.
Khan got some nice attributes, but he's not more skilled than Canelo. Not even counting his chin, but that footwork that he can't seem to control makes problems for himself all the time. His feet will be moving away, but he's still punching and vice versa. Plus his overall defense is average as hell.
Shane prolly had more natural talent and attributes than Winky, but Winky definitely had more skills. His size and strength helped reinforced his gameplan, so it did play a part, but that jab and defense is what made shyt happen.
Ditto for Tito and Hopkins. Tito never beat someone bigger than himself that had more skills.
Usually if the bigger guy is more skilled, he pretty much dominates the smaller guy. It's like double the advantage
Roy beating Ruiz is a good example of a great fighter with more skills beating a good fighter (ok Ruiz, being good is a stretch, but he was a solid B level guy, decent heavy)
Duran beating Barkely is up there too.
I had to concede a bit a couple pages back with the Khan comparison because of his chin liabilities & his skillset isn't on par with Canelo's. But Canelo's size was a major issue people had with the fight though.
I have to disagree with you on Winky & Shane. I think Shane is more skilled than Winky & had more tools at his disposal. Winky was just bigger & stronger & Shane couldn't get his respect till Winky foolishly dropped his guard & got tagged.
I agree with pretty much everything else bro
I feel you breh. I can rock with that.
Shane and Winky is a tough one, because I feel their skills are close enough to where we can debate who is more skilled. I wouldn't say neither is head and shoulders above the other though. Your post made me really sit and think about it. At first thought, I wanna go with Winky due to the jab and defense, but Shane is still right up there with him.
It's not like Tito and Hopkins, where one guy is clearly more versatile and has a wider skill set than the other. Even then Tito's one dimension was great in itself.
Yeah Canelo's size had a lot to do with how he'd effect Khan. I don't know if you seen that lil vid Broner put up after the fight where he showed Algieri landing the same punch on Khan that Canelo landed and it rocked him hard. Then he plays the actual Canelo punch and that shyt knocks out Khan.
t-craw is a damn good boxer and versatile...so i think he would have a lot of upside if he went up to 147..physically i think he would match up pretty well..i mean he's rehydrated well into middleweight territory on fight night..if anything i think he would take punches better with the added weight..if you watched that 2 days ep where it showed him preparing for beltran i think..he looked like he was draining to me..and i think that might have played a part when he got tagged by gamboa and did the stanky leg..154 is where i think his limit would prolly be because there are some big nikkas in that divisiion
I definitely feel you on this although I think speed has a lot to do with it as well.
Perfect example is Tito/Hopkins. Tito was up in weight (Bernard beats him 99 time out of 100 regardless), but he couldn't move as fast. His punches were coming out a bit slower etc. And then you have him boxing someone just as quick/fast who's used to moving around and punching/feinting/slipping at that weight.
I think at 147 T Craw would be good and instantly go into the top contenders there, but to actually go and DO it without taking on a few jobbers would be ridic. Plus the jurys still out on his chin, b/c he's only ever really been hit hard by Gamboa.
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Honestly not sure of Crawford's chin. Rumors were it looked shaky, Gamboa tested it a bit, even though he was smaller he can punch, but since then it has looked fine, albeit not vs. the elite punchers.
Who knows, before the Loma fight, boxing media swore GRJ had a weak chin and said there were tons of sparring rumors about it getting exposed. So far in the ring it seems fine.
Who knows, before the Loma fight, boxing media swore GRJ had a weak chin and said there were tons of sparring rumors about it getting exposed. So far in the ring it seems fine.
Honestly not sure of Crawford's chin. Rumors were it looked shaky, Gamboa tested it a bit, even though he was smaller he can punch, but since then it has looked fine, albeit not vs. the elite punchers.
Who knows, before the Loma fight, boxing media swore GRJ had a weak chin and said there were tons of sparring rumors about it getting exposed. So far in the ring it seems fine.
I believe his chin is going to be his greatest weakness. Its tough to gauge how shaky it is though, there's a lot of tangible factors that can certainly explain why he's been so easily stunned every now and then.
I felt like Craw really wanted to fight it out in the 12th against Postol, but he couldn't fully follow through because he was getting caught a little too cleanly in the exchanges. Postol ain't feather fisted, but its something I noticed, and I don't believe its going to bode well for Crawford when he moves up to 147 & up.
Going to be REAL interesting going forward. Crawford is great enough to protect his chin, but he's prone to getting a little TOO enticed by a few wreckless exchanges throughout his fights.
I think Crawford's chin is shaky, but due to how his feet are always set, he should be good enough. Obvious exception is if he gets countered.
Postol has serious length, and was able to push out rights that weren't 'power punches' but Crawford ran into them, which I think made them look harder than they were.
His real problem will be when he faces someone with length and power, who can box and move.
But IDK who that is at 140 besides........crawford