6/12 ESPN: Shakur Stevenson vs Jeremiah Nakathila / Jose Pedraza vs Julian Rodriguez

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Shakur is a really good boxer. He just can’t beat anyone up, or shown an ability to do it consistently. Even when he was street fighting them dudes, he wasn’t even hurting them :yeshrug:. Beating people up, or having the willingness to beat people up is often a characteristic in getting stops. Still interested in seeing how his career unfolds.
 

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Shakur is a really good boxer. He just can’t beat anyone up, or shown an ability to do it consistently. Even when he was street fighting them dudes, he wasn’t even hurting them :yeshrug:. Beating people up, or having the willingness to beat people up is often a characteristic in getting stops. Still interested in seeing how his career unfolds.

We'll need to see him at his prime weight. Thats why I didnt like the Floyd comparisons. Floyd is a natural 130/135 guy hence why his power was best there. Its clear Shakur is not, on the same flip he'll have to scrap/dig more once he gets there. Son is still developing physically imo.
 

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Gervonta's knockouts made him a star. He isn't a talker or a big personality guy.
There are different ways to become a star. And being a star is all thats needed to fight on ppv.

Andre Ward wasnt knocking dudes out left n right neither was Hopkins and they both ended up w hof careers.

On the other side of it how many knockouts did ggg have? Have many ppvs did he sell without Canelo on the other side???

I know.
 
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This exact reason is why its gotta.be a nightmare training boxers in today climate. 100000 armchair boxers (who never boxed) telling a guy who medal'd at the olympics what he should be doing in a boxing ring.

He won easily and is off to the next. His purse gets bigger and he can take care of his fan let them call you whatever just keep winning.
 

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He knocked them out in those mismatches like he was supposed to.. Did you even read his post before replying..
Who cares..at his level, wtf he doing fighting those kind of guys in the 1st place? It's beyond knockouts and the gay stupid attention to detail nyggas selectively want to choose for certain fighters.
 
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its cuz nikkas can't take the woke glasses off long enough to be objective. Nobody is out to make black fighters look bad. nikkas is just holding them to the standard that they get hyped to.

Everybody was giving Oscar Valdez hell, for always struggling against dudes he should be beating by 10-2 or 12-0. nikkas not even being that harsh towards Shakur. We just wanna see him fight with more urgency and get some of these mid tier ass nikkas out of there. It would help with building his brand in the long run.

Jeff Lacy would have never gotten that "He the next Mike Tyson" promo push if he would have kept sweet sciencing nikkas in distance fights against jobbers. It is what it is.
I guess you were referring to my comment about Black fighters. It’s not about wearing “woke glasses”, it’s about what is very evident and so called boxing heads fall into media traps. Okay, maybe YOU aren’t out to make Black fighters look bad, but don’t say”nobody” isn’t. My “woke” stance is a bigger issue than Shakur’s fight only. I’ve said this about Haney’s last fight when they booed him (it’s in the thread) because he held on for life after his first in ring crisis vs. a dangerous punching vet in Linares. I felt then they were trying to find something to be overly critical on (his chin). The same way they over criticized Tank’s prior fights and opponents. It’s like they can’t wait to create negative narratives about boxers so people can fertilize them with their bullshyt. These are YOUNG fighters who are still filling out physically, mentally, and business-wise and they deserve not to be over criticized by people who SUPPOSED to understand boxing and the business of boxing. My stance is very objective and it seems just because someone doesn’t agree with yours, judging from this post, you might have the objectivity problem. You want us to hold young fighters what they’re hyped up to be? Who hyped up Shakur to be a KO artist? Haney to be a KO artist? They’re were hyped up as slick, hit and not get hit fighters. Breh it seems that people are in the hen house looking for steak, but get upset when the don’t hear moos. If you think recognizing the bullshyt overreactions these young Black fighters are getting is being “woke”, then that’s another issue in itself.
 

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I guess you were referring to my comment about Black fighters. It’s not about wearing “woke glasses”, it’s about what is very evident and so called boxing heads fall into media traps. Okay, maybe YOU aren’t out to make Black fighters look bad, but don’t say”nobody” isn’t. My “woke” stance is a bigger issue than Shakur’s fight only. I’ve said this about Haney’s last fight when they booed him (it’s in the thread) because he held on for life after his first in ring crisis vs. a dangerous punching vet in Linares. I felt then they were trying to find something to be overly critical on (his chin). The same way they over criticized Tank’s prior fights and opponents. It’s like they can’t wait to create negative narratives about boxers so people can fertilize them with their bullshyt. These are YOUNG fighters who are still filling out physically, mentally, and business-wise and they deserve not to be over criticized by people who SUPPOSED to understand boxing and the business of boxing. My stance is very objective and it seems just because someone doesn’t agree with yours, judging from this post, you might have the objectivity problem. You want us to hold young fighters what they’re hyped up to be? Who hyped up Shakur to be a KO artist? Haney to be a KO artist? They’re were hyped up as slick, hit and not get hit fighters. Breh it seems that people are in the hen house looking for steak, but get upset when the don’t hear moos. If you think recognizing the bullshyt overreactions these young Black fighters are getting is being “woke”, then that’s another issue in itself.

I'm not reading that block of words nikka.

So I'll just respectfully agree to disagree with whatever woke shyt you just typed out. Enjoy the rest of your weekend bro.
 

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I'm not reading that block of words nikka.

So I'll just respectfully agree to disagree with whatever woke shyt you just typed out. Enjoy the rest of your weekend bro.
Nah disrespectfully stfu about boxing, your take was stupid. And I knew your reaction would be like such. Next time address my post directly, shows what type of dude you are in real life. It’s only a disagreement about boxing, relax. @patscorpio who dis niqqa?
 

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Nah disrespectfully stfu about boxing, your take was stupid. And I knew your reaction would be like such. Next time address my post directly, shows what type of dude you are in real life.

fukk you p*ssy ass nikka
the women in your family can suck my dikk:pacspit:

Next time use spaces and paragraphs fukk nikka. Nobody trying to read a got damn wall of words. Especially when I know its gonna be bullshyt.
 

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fukk you p*ssy ass nikka
the women in your family can suck my dikk:pacspit:

Next time use spaces and paragraphs fukk nikka. Nobody trying to read a got damn wall of words. Especially when I know its gonna be bullshyt.
:pachaha: “Staff Member”. That escalated quickly.
 

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Let me put this hoe ass niggga on ignore, cuz I'm not gonna go back and forth with some nikka that don't see that Shakur needs to put dudes away instead of making excuse for why he can't .

I didnt even watch the Skahur fight so why I should argue about it. :mjlol:
 

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I guess you were referring to my comment about Black fighters. It’s not about wearing “woke glasses”, it’s about what is very evident and so called boxing heads fall into media traps. Okay, maybe YOU aren’t out to make Black fighters look bad, but don’t say”nobody” isn’t. My “woke” stance is a bigger issue than Shakur’s fight only. I’ve said this about Haney’s last fight when they booed him (it’s in the thread) because he held on for life after his first in ring crisis vs. a dangerous punching vet in Linares. I felt then they were trying to find something to be overly critical on (his chin). The same way they over criticized Tank’s prior fights and opponents. It’s like they can’t wait to create negative narratives about boxers so people can fertilize them with their bullshyt. These are YOUNG fighters who are still filling out physically, mentally, and business-wise and they deserve not to be over criticized by people who SUPPOSED to understand boxing and the business of boxing. My stance is very objective and it seems just because someone doesn’t agree with yours, judging from this post, you might have the objectivity problem. You want us to hold young fighters what they’re hyped up to be? Who hyped up Shakur to be a KO artist? Haney to be a KO artist? They’re were hyped up as slick, hit and not get hit fighters. Breh it seems that people are in the hen house looking for steak, but get upset when the don’t hear moos. If you think recognizing the bullshyt overreactions these young Black fighters are getting is being “woke”, then that’s another issue in itself.

man don’t do this bruh. When boxers don’t show out and don’t dominate in missmatches, they gonna get the smoke regardless of their color. We gave Teo smoke when he struggled and looked bad vs that Japanese cat a few years ago, Ryan Garcia got smoke in quite a few of his fights before his scrap vs Luke Campbell. When you look mid and unimpressive (not putting a stamp on the fight if you will) in a showcase bout, you gotta eat the criticisms that comes with it. That aint exclusive to only black fighters bruh


If yall was impressed and ok and satisfied with Shakur last night, just say that and let it be. Aint gonna change anyone’s opinion who disagrees with it
 

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man don’t do this bruh. When boxers don’t show out and don’t dominate in missmatches, they gonna get the smoke regardless of their color. We gave Teo smoke when he struggled and looked bad vs that Japanese cat a few years ago, Ryan Garcia got smoke in quite a few of his fights before his scrap vs Luke Campbell. When you look mid and unimpressive (not putting a stamp on the fight if you will) in a showcase bout, you gotta eat the criticisms that comes with it. That aint exclusive to only black fighters bruh


If yall was impressed and ok and satisfied with Shakur last night, just say that and let it be. Aint gonna change anyone’s opinion who disagrees with it
See this is the thing, you said “we” like I called anyone on this board out. I’m talking about how the media creates narratives about young Black boxers, and so called boxing heads fall for it. And you’re up here talking about, “we”. If you are media or a so called boxing head, my bad but that’s my opinion on it. It’s not about @malbaker86 and I’m clearly not trying to change anyone’s opinion, I’m giving my opinion like YOU and everyone else.

And the it’s not about it being exclusive to Black fighters only, I clearly stated that they are being OVER critical to young Black fighters like no one else. Of course criticisms will be there, it’s sports in general. But IMO it’s bullshyt how these negative narratives are purposely created and everyone runs with it.

I rarely frequent this board, wtf happened to good boxing debates? We now have staff members wishing harm on my family members? Niqqas is clowns.
 
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