6/1 DAZN "Coming to America" Anthony Joshua vs Andy Ruiz (WBO/WBA/IBF HW Titles)

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reservoirdogs

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It sounds bad to say this but there seems to be some validity to what Floyd and Bhop say about getting in the ring with non stiff brothas in the ring.

It's like basketball. You can't just play against a team like the Utah Jazz ala Malone/Stockton where they have a set offense and won't deviate.

You gotta get used to the Warriors too. Kinetic fast paced and unconventional. He can't.

The greats
Floyd
Bhop
Ward

Now
Crawford
Canelo
Spence

Could do it. The Joshua's of the world can't.
I don't know shyt about basketball so I don't really get it, but seems like you are saying it's good if you get in the ring with different styles?
 

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Exactly.

He's programmed and can't "think on the fly".

Just like Ronda.
He had problems with shorter, pressuring guys at spots. See the Takam and Povetkin fights but didn't think it would be Ruiz who beats him, but oh well... very very few did.

It's gonna be interesting whether he can regroup or not, Klitschko and Lewis did it but some others could never regain confidence.
Also I'm curious whether Ruiz seeing he is able to pull an upset like this and being the owner of 3 belts (strange af to type this down lol) will be affected by this to start take it more seriously, shredding some pounds.

I think it was more due to his defensive lapses, chin problems and lack of stamina than being too textbook, if anything he could have profited more with a more hands up approach. He seemed to think he can have a half guard against an opponent so much shorter than him, he was wrong.
 

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He had problems with shorter, pressuring guys at spots. See the Takam and Povetkin fights but didn't think it would be Ruiz who beats him, but oh well... very very few did.

It's gonna be interesting whether he can regroup or not, Klitschko and Lewis did it but some others could never regain confidence.
Also I'm curious whether Ruiz seeing he is able to pull an upset like this and being the owner of 3 belts (strange af to type this down lol) will be affected by this to start take it more seriously, shredding some pounds.

I think it was more due to his defensive lapses, chin problems and lack of stamina than being too textbook, if anything he could have profited more with a more hands up approach. He seemed to think he can have a half guard against an opponent so much shorter than him, he was wrong.

Wlad and Lennox didn't act like entitled c*nts.

He's food.
 

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Very good card btw...
Apart of that Smith fight all the others were either competitive or dramatic or both.
Haven't seen such fades in a women fight yet like yesterday even though I thought Persoon should have won.
Also I thought Robinson deserved the nod against Kelly but it was a pretty good fight too.

Not counting the prelims it was 2-1-1 for Matchroom fighters in these 3 fights but this was a bad-bad night for Hearn/Matchroom/UK boxing. 1 of them is undisputed now but ina. highly debatable fashion the other one kinda got exposed and fought to a draw which could have gone the other way too and of course the big money guy lost in a stunning upset.
Smith won easy but everybody expected that, it was the least competitive fight on paper along with Joshua's.

Buatsi continues to impress though, dude seems solid af technically, no wild shyt, great composure, good combinations, good power.
 

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Hearn might put that nikka on the titanic to go back

He's gonna protect the hell out of his cash cows even more now.

It wasn't a good night for him at all. AJ lost. Katie Taylor should've lost. Josh Kelly drew with someone he should've beat if he didn't fight like a moron

Whoever is the matchmaker for them probably got chewed out last night
 

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he wasnt scared to defend none of em..and his resume has always been greater than wilders..

he won 4 titles under 30 fights..vs wilder winning 1 in 33...and all 4 of those titles was available to wilder..n he never went after them..joshua won the 1st one in 9 fights...lol

has whyte parker, klitchko, povetkin under his belt where wilder has a bunch of janitors and nikkas who braid cow hair...for a livng

Parker camp ducked Wilder, they came out and said it......
 

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Exactly.

He's programmed and can't "think on the fly".

Just like Ronda.
I mean hindsight is 20/20 but up until the 3rd, there was no reason to believe he would be KO'd to be honest. Ruiz' face was starting to get bruised from the jabbing and AJ connected some very good shots too. As a matter of fact, after Ruiz' KD, AJ landed a huge straight and some hooks which Ruiz managed to eat well. I think man was just to eager to finish and ended up getting caught badly which totally derailed him. He may not be able to improvise indeed (I don't dispute that) but I think his loss today had more to do with him being badly rocked than him not being able to change gameplan on the fly.

I think he always had an average chin and except against Povetkin where he ate some shots but still kept his legs, Whyte, Wlad and Ruiz managed to give him noodle legs the moment they connected clean. Only difference IMO is Ruiz' handspeed and relentlessness against which he couldn't keep up. When Whyte rocked him, Whyte tried to land some huge hooks AJ could see coming from a mile away. When Wlad rocked him, Wlad tried to land his lead hook repetitively with almost no success which AJ also saw coming. Both wanted to land in single punches to end AJ but Ruiz went in with fast combos forcing AJ to shell up, completely nullifying his offense and giving him no time to rest and regroup.
 
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I mean hindsight is 20/20 but up until the 3rd, there was no reason to believe he would KO'd to be honest. Ruiz' face was starting to get bruised from the jabbing and AJ connected some very good shots too. As a matter of fact, after Ruiz' KD, AJ landed a huge straight and some hooks which Ruiz managed to eat well. I think man was just to eager to finish and end up getting caught badly which totally derailed him. He may not be able to improvise indeed (I don't dispute that) but I think his loss today had more to do with him being badly rocked than him not being able to change gameplan on the fly.

I think he always had an average chin and except against Povetkin where he ate some shots but still kept his legs, Whyte, Wlad and Ruiz managed to give him noodle legs the moment they connected clean. Only difference IMO is Ruiz' handspeed and relentlessness against which he couldn't keep up. When Whyte rocked him, Whyte tried to land some huge hooks AJ could see coming from a mile away. When Wlad rocked him, Wlad tried to land his lead hook repetitively with almost no success which AJ also saw coming. Both wanted to land in single punches to end AJ but Ruiz went in with fast combos forcing AJ to shell up, completely nullifying his offense and giving him no time to rest and regroup.

AJ went for the US debut highlight finish because of what Wilder did the other week. When Ruiz was hurt, he should of just broke him down, like he has done in the past when he's finished guys.
 

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He's gonna protect the hell out of his cash cows even more now.

It wasn't a good night for him at all. AJ lost. Katie Taylor should've lost. Josh Kelly drew with someone he should've beat if he didn't fight like a moron

Whoever is the matchmaker for them probably got chewed out last night
I think the matchmaker only can be blamed for the Kelly fight. Dude's 10th fight, first southpaw opponent and he gets Robinson, a guy who just almost upset another unbeaten prospect and is a skilled vet.

The Taylor vs Persoon fight was for undisputed you can't blame the matchmaker for that.
And AJ vs Ruiz... well nobody saw that coming or maybe just a very few but even from them idk how many of them thought it seriously and how many of them just picked Ruiz out of spite for AJ/Hearn/Matchroom...

In other words it was a huge upset.
 
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