50 Cent losing that Sales Battle to Kanye in '07 is the reason Hiphop is so wack now

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2007 was only terrible if you ONLY listened to the radio. 2007 had:

Pharoah Monch- Desire
Talib Kweli- Eardrum
UGK- Underground Kingz
Common- Finding Forever
Kanye West- Graduation
Lupe Fiasco- The Cool
Jay Z- American Gangster
Styles P- Super Gangsta, Extraordinary Gentleman
Scarface- Made
Freeway- Free At Last

Andre 3000 was killing everything he was featured on. There were some great collaborations that year. Lupe Fiasco broke through on the mainstream front that year and the album was dope. Jay Z came back with a stronger project. Scarface made a return to dropping solo albums.

thats all radio shyt tho, except for pharoah. you didnt even put in below the heavens :what:


and yeah. an album with DJ PREMIER and MOS DEF is worse than an album with AMUSEMENT PARK. yeah fukkin right.
 

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That shyt is the reason you have all these suburban soft ass rappers today. That is the reason that you have the Drakes, Tyga, Kid Cudi etc. Had 50 won that sales battle on Sept.11 2007 the streets would be more represented in hiphop today. The record labels threw their money behind the suburban shyt once Kanye sold more records than Curtis. That shyt drastically changed the climate in hiphop. I think people bought the graduation album just to see 50 retire like he said he would if he lost the bet.
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the "sales battle" was just a promotional ploy.

50 cent was :flabbynsick:. no way he was winning that.

and lol @ the streets. aside from the g-unit diehards, the streets been stopped rockin wit 50 like that by that point.
50 was selling more records than Kanye at that point. He was coming off the massacre which sold a lot of records.
 

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thats all radio shyt tho, except for pharoah. you didnt even put in below the heavens :what:


and yeah. an album with DJ PREMIER and MOS DEF is worse than an album with AMUSEMENT PARK. yeah fukkin right.

shut up you fruitcake
 

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50 was selling more records than Kanye at that point. He was coming off the massacre which sold a lot of records.


the massacre sold records cuz of the iovine hype machine and 50's name with this being the follow-up to GRODT.

the actual reception for the album was chitty, ESPECIALLY in the streets. that chit was weedplate status in the hood. 50 been done. the mainstream, the casuals, as well as the youngns at the time just catch on to things an album or two after the fact. the curtis album was the result of it.

thats why 50 lost so much momentum with every release afterwards. if 50 wasnt on a power label, he wouldve already faded into oblivion by '07. the machine and his shenanigans & gimmicks(like this "sales battle") are what kept him afloat.



Didn't say Kanye didn't have the better album, I'm just saying them going head to head is what the record labels used as an interest gauge and when Kanye won they figured that hiphop was moving in a new direction which is away from the street shyt and more into the suburban/diva shyt.


the record labels were pushing in that direction for years before this breh.

theyve been weeding out the street guys since all the mergers & such in the early '00s. they were pushing towards keeping the street rap alive thru middle class hood guys that had less baggage & "were more civilized", yet still legit.

there was a guy on sohh that was giving out all that info. it fell on death ears, but dam near all that chit went down.

and kanye's comeup was always questionable. how you on f*ckin rocafella and you become dam near a household name before your debut drops? that chit was always fughaze.
 
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the massacre sold records cuz of the iovine hype machine and 50's name with this being the follow-up to GRODT.

the actual reception for the album was chitty, ESPECIALLY in the streets. that chit was weedplate status in the hood. 50 been done. the mainstream, the casuals, as well as the youngns at the time just catch on to things an album or two after the fact. the curtis album was the result of it.

thats why 50 lost so much momentum with every release afterwards. if 50 wasnt on a power label, he wouldve already faded into oblivion by '07. the machine and his shenanigans & gimmicks(like this "sales battle") are what kept him afloat.






the record labels were pushing in that direction for years before this breh.

theyve been weeding out the street guys since all the mergers & such in the early '00s. they were pushing towards keeping the street rap alive thru middle class hood guys that had less baggage & "were more civilized", yet still legit.

there was a guy on sohh that was giving out all that info. it fell on death ears, but dam near all that chit went down.

and kanye's comeup was always questionable. how you on f*ckin rocafella and you become dam near a household name before your debut drops? that chit was always fughaze.
"I get Money" was a hotter single than anything Kanye dropped at the time.
 

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btw, graduation was a much better album than curtis.

even tho he had that homo ass first single "stronger".

:laugh:


"I get Money" was a hotter single than anything Kanye dropped at the time.


thats one song. everybody is good for a jam here-n-there.

and remember that was like the 3rd single.

that just goes to show how much buddy was reaching for straws. he dropped like 4 videos in 4 months before the album dropped.

if one of them really popped off, this "sales battle" wouldnt even exist.
 

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That shyt is the reason you have all these suburban soft ass rappers today. That is the reason that you have the Drakes, Tyga, Kid Cudi etc. Had 50 won that sales battle on Sept.11 2007 the streets would be more represented in hiphop today. The record labels threw their money behind the suburban shyt once Kanye sold more records than Curtis. That shyt drastically changed the climate in hiphop. I think people bought the graduation album just to see 50 retire like he said he would if he lost the bet.



so u steal my thread




old thread my bad
 

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:camby:foh 50 that shyt was not as big a deal as youre trying to make it. people always try to frame the sales battle as some kind of street rap vs alt rap showdown but graduation just had better promotion, hype, music, and 50 had already kind of dropped the ball on the massacre
 
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