5 years in IT no certs just hit $45/hr

[FukYaFeelings]

Just ordered a Security+ book and some highlighters off Amazon

Y'all nikkas finna witness history

 

[xXMASHERXx]

Damn, Im gonna graduate with a degree in law and the sector looks like absolute dogshyt in comparison to IT/Software engineering

Working hours seem relaxed and the payout is just as good if not better than the shyt solicitors make here, unless you make partner but that shyt is extra difficult.

I shoulda picked a computer science degree , Thread is inspirational tho. I'mma get to the Cert thread and

Thanks breh

Btw which is more lucrative, Security or that Development shyt?

To be honest there are many people in IT who don't have a degree in anything IT related. So don't worry too much about it. Working hours will vary depending on which area you specialize in. Research the paths you can take in IT and then decide on which one you want to choose.

 

[#1 pick]

To be honest there are many people in IT who don't have a degree in anything IT related. So don't worry too much about it. Working hours will vary depending on which area you specialize in. Research the paths you can take in IT and then decide on which one you want to choose.

I do as an associate but my underg is not in IT.

 

[the bossman]

What you really want to do is graduate from system admin to security or networks. There is a cap to how much you can earn as a System admin even though they are in demand. Once you get into Networks/Security the sky is the limit. I think someone else can better explain this as I'm only speaking from what I've heard

I can speak on networks a little bit. All I will say is networking has been GOOD to a breh. There is some serious paper out here if you put in the work. It's one of the few fields where everything is based on your experience and proven ability to do the job as opposed to the more structured industries like law and medicine which can take years before you see serious paper. Last year I was able to cross the 200k mark. Never thought I'd see that at 30

If you have any interest, I highly recommend considering going into networking. Get as much experience as you can in 5-6 years and then go out and start doing your own thing. Every business needs a networking person. They are like the plumbers of IT. Even small businesses who are moving their infrastructure to the cloud will need someone who understands networking to help them move their stuff there. You can branch off and specialize into different areas of networking (e.g. wireless, security, collaboration, data center, etc.). Get your slice of the pie brehs.

 

[Tr0yTV]

You can branch off and specialize into different areas of networking (e.g. wireless, security, collaboration, data center, etc.). Get your slice of the pie brehs.

Any advice on C2C? Should I form an LLC and tax myself as an S-Corp or just form an S-Corp?

 

[the bossman]

Any advice on C2C? Should I form an LLC and tax myself as an S-Corp or just form an S-Corp?

This question is better for an accountant-type breh. It's not a one size fits all. It really depends on your situation and how savvy you are with bookkeeping. A lot of tech staffing companies will offer you a job/contract on a C2C or W2. Once I looked at all the stuff you have to keep record of in regards to taxes, I just decided at this point and time in my life I'll keep it simple with a W2. Just less headache overall. You can get yourself into some trouble with IRS if you don't know what you're doing with the taxes. BUT if you got a CPA/tax accountant type breh on-call that you know who can help you with that then I can see C2C being very lucrative. Just make sure that you account for everything when considering C2C that you would normally have handled on a W2 before you agree on the hourly rate.

If they say 80k on a W2. It's not simply just 40/hr on C2C. Things are taken care of on a W2 that are not handled in a C2C. In a C2C it's all on you. (i.e. PTO vacation days, sick days, holidays, health insurance, payroll taxes, etc.) If you're doing C2C it's a straight hourly rate, so make sure you take all those things into consideration when you agree on the rate.

 

[Tr0yTV]

If they say 80k on a W2. It's not simply just 40/hr on C2C. Things are taken care of on a W2 that are not handled in a C2C. In a C2C it's all on you. (i.e. PTO vacation days, sick days, holidays, health insurance, payroll taxes, etc.) If you're doing C2C it's a straight hourly rate, so make sure you take all those things into consideration when you agree on the rate.

I intend to hire an accountant and lawyer if I go that route. They are trying to low ball me though. They talking about 75/hr on W-2 or 80/hr on 1099. The W-2 would be easier, but I would take an L on the taxes. Hence why I am considering C2C so I can write off expenses and pay myself a "salary" of 45k. You right though, I need to find an accountant breh that has exp. With C2C. Thanks for pointing out the benefits aspect of it. I will ask them about that too.

 

[the bossman]

I intend to hire an accountant and lawyer if I go that route. They are trying to low ball me though. They talking about 75/hr on W-2 or 80/hr on 1099. The W-2 would be easier, but I would take an L on the taxes. Hence why I am considering C2C so I can write off expenses and pay myself a "salary" of 45k. You right though, I need to find an accountant breh that has exp. With C2C. Thanks for pointing out the benefits aspect of it. I will ask them about that too.

oh hell na breh lol. 75/hr on W2 is at least $90/hr on C2C to be fair

 

[Redguard]

I can speak on networks a little bit. All I will say is networking has been GOOD to a breh. There is some serious paper out here if you put in the work. It's one of the few fields where everything is based on your experience and proven ability to do the job as opposed to the more structured industries like law and medicine which can take years before you see serious paper. Last year I was able to cross the 200k mark. Never thought I'd see that at 30

If you have any interest, I highly recommend considering going into networking. Get as much experience as you can in 5-6 years and then go out and start doing your own thing. Every business needs a networking person. They are like the plumbers of IT. Even small businesses who are moving their infrastructure to the cloud will need someone who understands networking to help them move their stuff there. You can branch off and specialize into different areas of networking (e.g. wireless, security, collaboration, data center, etc.). Get your slice of the pie brehs.

I'm interested in networking but I don't have any experience.

I just got my A+ and now I am studying for the CCENT.

Hopefully I can find an entry level help desk job in my area but I'm afraid I might have to move.

 

[Dat Migo]

Last year I was able to cross the 200k mark. Never thought I'd see that at 30

You got this by consulting? What was your career path up onto that point?

 

[the bossman]

I'm interested in networking but I don't have any experience.

I just got my A+ and now I am studying for the CCENT.

Hopefully I can find an entry level help desk job in my area but I'm afraid I might have to move.

should be able to find a help desk anywhere. where do you live? do you have any dependents? (wife? kids?)

 

[the bossman]

You got this by consulting? What was your career path up onto that point?

yea this was consulting. to get to that level of compensation generally your job needs to be directly generating revenue. if you're only doing support of a single enterprise environment then there will be a cap eventually

08-09 > 6 months in the NOC for a big bank
09-10 > 1.5 yrs contracting at a govt agency as a jr network support engineer
10-11 > 1 yr at a midsize bank as a jr-mid network support engineer
11-12 > 1.5 yrs at a VAR doing general network deployments
13 > 1 yr at a VAR doing network deployments mostly in hospitals all over the country
14-16 > 2 yrs contracting at a govt agency as a sr network engineer
16-present > straight consulting

stick and move. I never got comfortable in a position. I only bounce when I feel like I've learned everything I needed to learn in the position and need more challenge. miy plan now is to have my own thing going a year from now

 

[FukYaFeelings]

yea this was consulting. to get to that level of compensation generally your job needs to be directly generating revenue. if you're only doing support of a single enterprise environment then there will be a cap eventually

08-09 > 6 months in the NOC for a big bank
09-10 > 1.5 yrs contracting at a govt agency as a jr network support engineer
10-11 > 1 yr at a midsize bank as a jr-mid network support engineer
11-12 > 1.5 yrs at a VAR doing general network deployments
13 > 1 yr at a VAR doing network deployments mostly in hospitals all over the country
14-16 > 2 yrs contracting at a govt agency as a sr network engineer
16-present > straight consulting

stick and move. I never got comfortable in a position. I only bounce when I feel like I've learned everything I needed to learn in the position and need more challenge. miy plan now is to have my own thing going a year from now

Not that it matter but what kinda car u got bra

 

[Originalman]

salute OP. Now you really understanding how this corporate game works.

What you did is finessing......corporate kats do the shyt all the time. Either with exp or title or on the resume.

shyt my homie did the same thing. Dude was a IE wanted to get into systems. He started to help out on the systems side of things on projects at his job (small company so he could make up a reason to wear many hats).

Got him a couple system engineer dudes to show him the lingo and the ropes at work.

Homie fluffed his resume up after a couple of years and was able to finese his way to a system engineer job.....nice pay raise and a higher pay scale.

 

[Originalman]

yea this was consulting. to get to that level of compensation generally your job needs to be directly generating revenue. if you're only doing support of a single enterprise environment then there will be a cap eventually

08-09 > 6 months in the NOC for a big bank
09-10 > 1.5 yrs contracting at a govt agency as a jr network support engineer
10-11 > 1 yr at a midsize bank as a jr-mid network support engineer
11-12 > 1.5 yrs at a VAR doing general network deployments
13 > 1 yr at a VAR doing network deployments mostly in hospitals all over the country
14-16 > 2 yrs contracting at a govt agency as a sr network engineer
16-present > straight consulting

stick and move. I never got comfortable in a position. I only bounce when I feel like I've learned everything I needed to learn in the position and need more challenge. miy plan now is to have my own thing going a year from now

Smart man. That is exactly how you perfect your skill and jump your salary. You have to stick and move like mayweather.

Can't hang around too long......keep bouncing and developing the skill. That way your exp and salary grows plus it forces you to develop new skills.