49ers will never win a super bowl with Alex Smith

[Bryan Danielson]

nikkas really acting like Kyle Williams aint fukk up last year by himself

Like them 2 fumbles in the red zone ain't cost the Niners the game

 

[Street Knowledge]

speaking of joe, Im a fan of a franchise who has always relied on qb play...and I still dont belive in 'franchise qb's'

great defense can shut down any 'franchise' qb. ask dan marino about what niners D did to him in the one superbowl.

of course trip will now come up with some excuse as to why marino got his soul took in that game and how he hasnt won shyt. or maybe he thinks marino is average


giants d shut down joe, cowboys d shut down steve, ravens and bucs defense shut down anyone, steelers defense got them a couple of sb wins (and ben should be ashamed for his performance in one of them). greatest show on turf shut down by beli's genius DEFENSIVE schemes. brady and record-breaking pats shut down by tuck and company.

you pick a great offense and Ill show you a defense that went and punched them in the mouth.

show me an offense that punched a great defense in the mouth...
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Quite a few examples in the playoffs

1.The 9ers destroyed the number one ranked broncos defense 55-10 in the SB
2.The 08' and 10' Number one ranked steelers defenses got torched in both SB's(if it weren't for some drops by Packers recievers it would've been worse)
3. 2004 pats lit up the 2004 Number one ranked steelers defense in the AFC title game
4. Number 2 ranked 06' pats got torched by the colts in the AFC title game
5. Number 2 ranked 11' 49ers got Torched by drew Brees and the saints in the playoffs.

That's just off my head

 

[JLova]

Hmmmmm..... How would one define Carson Palmer? And how long again did he play for the Bengals?

Carson has done things Alex will never do. Hew was pretty good earlier on in his career and is living off that.

 

[mvp_status]

Quite a few examples in the playoffs

1.The 9ers destroyed the number one ranked broncos defense 55-10 in the SB
2.The 08' and 10' Number one ranked steelers defenses got torched in both SB's(if it weren't for some drops by Packers recievers it would've been worse)
3. 2004 pats lit up the 2004 Number one ranked steelers defense in the AFC title game
4. Number 2 ranked 06' pats got torched by the colts in the AFC title game
5. Number 2 ranked 11' 49ers got Torched by drew Brees and the saints in the playoffs.

That's just off my head

don't forget Tebow throwing for 300+ yds against the Steelers and their #1 pass D last year

I think it works both ways, QB & defenses are both large parts to team's success. Coaching though >>>> all.

 

[Skip b]

this is a stupid thread...the team is talented as hell. One bad loss early in the regular season doesn't mean this is the same team in january (if they make it)

I bet nobody thought the giants would win the superbowl when the saints kicked their ass last year...but i always felt that as long as they made the playoffs they can beat anybody

I'm a giants fan and i'll still fear the niners if we meet them in the playoffs...football is a game of adjustments and strategy more so then other sports

i'm going to be pissed if the niners win the superbowl and you caused it...anybody remember that epic thread that said none of the mannings would win a superbowl and they won them back to back

any so called fan with an elite QB should no fears of outplaying Smith's shytty ass

 

[PortCityProphet]

any so called fan with an elite QB should no fears of outplaying Smith's shytty ass

since when do QBs go against eachother

 

[no_fucking_better_than_me]

I thought this thesis was proven against the Giants. Everything went right for the 49ers that game except Alex Smith and one fumble on a return. But if SMith played bette rit would have came down to that fumble

 

[Skip b]

since when do QBs go against eachother

Defense rarely put points on the board, thats what the QB's does so aint trying to hear that shyt


Defense doesn't win championships a good defense may luck up and win a bowl putting the team on their back, but shytty QB situations ruin dynasty potential teams like the Ravens. When was the last team to win a bowl without an elite QB

 

[thatrapsfan]

Was coming in here to post this. Y'all acting like the 49ers weren't 2 fumbles by the returner away from the Super Bowl last year...with the same exact QB y'all are trashing after one game.

Alex played terrible that game aside from Vernon's touchdowns. He had a single completion to a WR and was 1 for 13 in third down situations. The way our D was playing it should've never came down to Williams.

 

[JLova]

Alex played terrible that game aside from Vernon's touchdowns. He had a single completion to a WR and was 1 for 13 in third down situations. The way our D was playing it should've never came down to Williams.

And the WR's were blamed. It's not the receivers!

 

[Regular_P]

i didn't say I agree with it.. They probably pursued him and he said no... Free agents can do that ya know.

And we know Harbaugh is an ass anyway so you're probably right about his ego....

All i'm saying is they didn't pursue Manning nearly enough, which is crazy. He is a top five all-time QB. Do whatever it takea to bring him in. They didn't even give him their best shot.

 

[FreedS[ohh]lave]

speaking of joe, Im a fan of a franchise who has always relied on qb play...and I still dont belive in 'franchise qb's'

great defense can shut down any 'franchise' qb. ask dan marino about what niners D did to him in the one superbowl.

of course trip will now come up with some excuse as to why marino got his soul took in that game and how he hasnt won shyt. or maybe he thinks marino is average


giants d shut down joe, cowboys d shut down steve, ravens and bucs defense shut down anyone, steelers defense got them a couple of sb wins (and ben should be ashamed for his performance in one of them). greatest show on turf shut down by beli's genius DEFENSIVE schemes. brady and record-breaking pats shut down by tuck and company.

you pick a great offense and Ill show you a defense that went and punched them in the mouth.

show me an offense that punched a great defense in the mouth...
...
...

Different era breh when you were allowed to play D

Too many teams have won a super bowl this decade with a franchise qb that had bad or medicore d and no running game

 

[Heretic]

All i'm saying is they didn't pursue Manning nearly enough, which is crazy. He is a top five all-time QB. Do whatever it takea to bring him in. They didn't even give him their best shot.

I always tell people that san fran didnt have the cap room for him. Signing him would kill the team for years to come, plus we probably lose at least 3 people off this years team. Long term it wouldnt have been a good move.

 

[mastermind]

Was coming in here to post this. Y'all acting like the 49ers weren't 2 fumbles by the returner away from the Super Bowl last year...with the same exact QB y'all are trashing after one game.

because they wernet. The game was tied at those points and it is no guarantee the 49ers offense put the required points on the board.

 

[yseJ]

Quite a few examples in the playoffs

1.The 9ers destroyed the number one ranked broncos defense 55-10 in the SB
2.The 08' and 10' Number one ranked steelers defenses got torched in both SB's(if it weren't for some drops by Packers recievers it would've been worse)
3. 2004 pats lit up the 2004 Number one ranked steelers defense in the AFC title game
4. Number 2 ranked 06' pats got torched by the colts in the AFC title game
5. Number 2 ranked 11' 49ers got Torched by drew Brees and the saints in the playoffs.

That's just off my head

I thought we were talking about superbowls. also I wouldnt call our d last year great. it was very good, not great.

Different era breh when you were allowed to play D

Too many teams have won a super bowl this decade with a franchise qb that had bad or medicore d and no running game

thats bullshyt.

02 bucs-historical defense, #1 in pts and yards
03 pats=#1 ranked defense in pts allowed
04 pats=#2 ranked defense in pts allowed
05 steelers=top 3 in pts, top 4 in yards
06 colts=mediocre but very good d against grossman despite peyton having a bad game. held bears to 17 and held chiefs and ravens to under 10
07 giants=shut down one of the best offenses ever, allowing only
FOURTEEN points. allowed average of 17 pts ppg in offs
08 steelers=#1 d in pts and yards allowed
09 saints=mediocre but ranked #2 in TOs
10 packers= #2 ranked d in pts allowed, top 5 in yards,
11 giants=hold packers, falcons, 49rs, pats all to 20 pts and under. actually really 17 and under, a td in the packer game came in garbage time

the only mediocre D in the playoffs over the last 10 years have been saints (which won with opportunistic but mediocre d) and colts (but they shut down chiefs and ravens and were good in the superbowl)

everywhere else the defense dominated either in regular season, playoffs or both.

trust me, you won't outargue me on this one. I have evidence and facts to back up my point.