malbaker86
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link for those who missed it or want to watch it again
4/20/24 DAZN PPV: Devin Haney vs Ryan Garcia (WBC Super Lightweight Title)
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Bleed The Freak
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Paul Smith blew weight against Andre Ward by like 6 lb and it didn't make a difference because Ward was that dude and he made the adjustments necessary under the circumstances.
Devin ain't. Period.
He's obviously very talented but with some very very serious obvious flaws
I think both things can be right. Haney had a dumb gameplan...but if the 3lbs didn't matter, Ryan would've lost it. There's a difference when your competition is getting naked to make weight on the scale and it's the last thing you're concerned about.
People can say whatever they want about Tank and rehydration clauses but he made sure Ryan wasn't pulling this bullshyt. No one will ever fight Ryan at "140" again after this fight.
Black_Jesus
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It's always been acceptable.. It was acceptable when Floyd beat Marquez and dropped him in the 2nd round.. It was acceptable when Salido gave Lomachenko his 1st loss.. Fury hit the scale 50lbs heavier than Wilder... Then you have these same people that cry about hydration clauses and catchweights..
At the end of the day.. Dev should've called off the fight, but he didn't.. He still agreed to fight Ryan and it cost him the fight because Ryan didn't have to take out of himself what he would have had to to actually lose the 3.5 lbs.. Dev made the sacrifice
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Ward made weight comfortable, it depends on the fighter and their body. That wasn't acceptable then and isn't now. Idk why you making excuses to accept fighters purposely blowing weight forcing other to make it for belt stipulations. No boxing fan should be defending wild west tactics for an advantage.
Bleed The Freak
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No one is making excuses. Ryan played it foul
and Devin fought like a dumbass.
Its just wild how weak Devin looked going into weighins compared to the regis fight. Devin did say making 140 aint easy either he just doesnt have to kill himself. But we clearly see he is not ready for 147 like they thought when they were tossing around Barrios and Thurman name when they smelled blood
Salido blew weight against Loma and that was the definitely the difference.
Maybe you're right about Haney but it matters bruh.
Eddie “get you beat” Hearn
Boots going to mess around and learn the hard way by going over there
Eddie “get you beat” Hearn
If Eddie set up boots to get beat by Ryan or some random shyt lmfao
Remember Eddie was bigging up Regis with that signing and his first fight was that flop in New Orleans
Bleed The Freak
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I get every scenario is different but man his game plan and lack of definitive strategy and glaring deficiencies to adjust were alarming.
No way around it with me. He looked terrible when he needed to adjust.
Bleed The Freak
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Eddie “get you beat” Hearn
I hate that Monty Python muthafukka so bad.
Jean toomer
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The weight definitely played a huge role in terms of confidence, absolutely had no respect for Haney’s power whatsoever. Haney needs to totally reevaluate what he’s doing in life…People were talking major shyt about Derrick James and his ability as a trainer but got AJ and Ryan looking their best but Ryan should be champ all he had to do was make weight but maybe that also helped him as well so
malbaker86
Gators
He does. Idk why he doesn’t pivot defensively
I agree. It was a terrible plan and I'm saying this as a Haney fan.
But there isn't a fighter in the world that would say that Garcia not making weight didn't make a difference.
Shakur Stevenson and Haney don't see eye to eye at all and while he gave Garcia his props, he also said it made a difference.