3 People Shot Dead at Bowling Alley in LA Area

[Serious]

Brehs I'm tired.

I'm fukking tired of this shyt. I been working weekends at a hospital a couple of months now. Every weekend I'm see a black man that got shot or one in the morgue.

Like literally in the last 48 hours I have moved two different black men to the morgue for two separate shootings.

The only way to fix this shyt is by giving folks a better option. Jobs and resources. But it's hard to run a business providing these with the environment the way it is.

Help me out brehs. Are we just fukked up?

The simplest explanation is that it comes down to jobs, access to resources, and education.

Historically in communities with a higher concentrations of African Americans, there's a common theme of failing institutions( underfunded / overcrowded schools, limited access to medical services, and inadequate social services that don't properly address the needs of people in African American communities). A lot of programs and services are typically tied to taxes, but African Americans, historically are paid less, receive less call backs for equally qualified resumes, and suffer the most from unemployment.

One aspect of perpetual that is rarely considered, revolves around brain drain and the concept of black flight. This implies that the well to do blacks, or people who can afford to move, out of economically disadvantaged neighborhoods, do so. Far too often connections from more prosperous black Americans, aren't being passed down or shared communally to other African Americans at a disadvantage.

African Americans in the suburbs, have just as much responsibility for helping to fix issues in the hood, as the individuals caught in a perpetual cycle, associated with economically disadvantaged areas.

With that said, the largest blame still falls are city and state governments. I'll address this later.

 

[George's Dilemma]

Brehs I'm tired.

I'm fukking tired of this shyt. I been working weekends at a hospital a couple of months now. Every weekend I'm see a black man that got shot or one in the morgue.

Like literally in the last 48 hours I have moved two different black men to the morgue for two separate shootings.

The only way to fix this shyt is by giving folks a better option. Jobs and resources. But it's hard to run a business providing these with the environment the way it is.

Help me out brehs. Are we just fukked up?

The simplest explanation is that it comes down to jobs, access to resources, and education.

Historically in communities with a higher concentrations of African Americans, there's a common theme of failing institutions( underfunded / overcrowded schools, limited access to medical services, and inadequate social services that don't properly address the needs of people in African American communities). A lot of programs and services are typically tied to taxes, but African Americans, historically are payed less, receive less call backs for equalified resumes, and suffer the most from unemployment.

One aspect of perpetual that is rarely considered, revolves around brain drain and the concept of black flight. This implies that the well to do blacks, or people who can afford to move, out of economically disadvantaged neighborhoods, do so. Far too often connections from more prosperous black Americans, aren't being passed down or shared communally to other African Americans at a disadvantage.

African Americans in the suburbs, have just as much responsibility for helping to fix issues in the hood, as the individuals caught in a perpetual cycle, associated with economically disadvantaged areas.

With that said, the largest blame still falls are city and state governments. I'll address this later.

While I agree economics plays a major role in the violence within certain Black communities, I think an argument can be made that its an overused excuse as well. Stop giving semi-passes and making excuses for people who commit violence on a whim over nothing. There is absolutely no accountability on this forum and its sickening.

 

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[Matt504]

While I agree economics plays a major role in the violence within certain Black communities, I think an argument can be made that its an overused excuse as well. Stop giving semi-passes and making excuses for people who commit violence on a whim over nothing. There is absolutely no accountability on this forum and its sickening.

If we can agree that economics, education are major factors, then we should also concede that these aren't two things that will be "fixed" in the foreseeable future which means that until they are addressed, we have to compensate and make concessions. We can't make the argument that the root causes of the types of violence we see in our communities is someone else's fault and then continue to lead the same lifestyle, we have to do what we can as individuals to minimize the likelihood of falling victim to the violence.

 

[Serious]

While I agree economics plays a major role in the violence within certain Black communities, I think an argument can be made that its an overused excuse as well. Stop giving semi-passes and making excuses for people who commit violence on a whim over nothing. There is absolutely no accountability on this forum and its sickening.

The truth is most peeps in general aren't violent. Even amongst "active" gang members violence is exaggerated. The problem is complex due to the nature of our interactions with institutions. For example, crimes in black communities go unsolved for various reasons. One reason is because police simply don't care, thus are reluctant to truly investigate. Another reason is because residents arent cooperative with police. These are two contradictory tropes that are correct.

The reality is violent crimes in "urban America" are only committed by something like less than 1% of the population.

Point is the accountability is widespread. And I blame the institutions more so, because there isn't some mass epidemic of black men killing other black men in the suburbs.

 

[George's Dilemma]

If we can agree that economics, education are major factors, then we should also concede that these aren't two things that will be "fixed" in the foreseeable future which means that until they are addressed, we have to compensate and make concessions. We can't make the argument that the root causes of the types of violence we see in our communities is someone else's fault and then continue to lead the same lifestyle, we have to do what we can as individuals to minimize the likelihood of falling victim to the violence.

Personally I think solutions to violence in these communities is something within our grasp. At the very least some of the violence can be mitigated. A key part of the problem is lack of accountability and ownership. A lot of these killings aren't happening over resources. These folks killed at the bowling alley didn't die because the shooter's family was starving. No, it was typical hood fukkery. Gangs, disrespect, a woman, beef cuz he was looking at me etc.. A job can't fix that kind of stupidity.

 

[Booker T Garvey]

Personally I think solutions to violence in these communities is something within our grasp. At the very least some of the violence can be mitigated. A key part of the problem is lack of accountability and ownership. A lot of these killings aren't happening over resources. These folks killed at the bowling alley didn't die because the shooter's family was starving. No, it was typical hood fukkery. Gangs, disrespect, a woman, beef cuz he was looking at me etc.. A job can't fix that kind of stupidity.

it's such a multi-layered thing, you have to go back to dubois' double consciousness theory, we view ourselves through the same lens that mainstream (white) america does

as well as viewing ourselves as one in the same, as a community - these views are always in conflict w/each other...even though one is clearly winning out over the other

 

[George's Dilemma]

The truth is most peeps in general aren't violent. Even amongst "active" gang members violence is exaggerated. The problem is complex due to the nature of our interactions with institutions. For example, crimes in black communities go unsolved for various reasons. One reason is because police simply don't care, thus are reluctant to truly investigate. Another reason is because residents arent cooperative with police. These are two contradictory tropes that are correct.

The reality is violent crimes in "urban America" are only committed by something like less than 1% of the population.

Point is the accountability is widespread. And I blame the institutions more so, because there isn't some mass epidemic of black men killing other black men in the suburbs.

The 1% commits the violence, but the larger percentage condones it by turning a blind eye to it. Which is worse than the institutions IMO. If you collectively lack faith in the institutions, would it not make sense to correct the problems that are within your immediate grasp? We get a snowstorm on Sunday, and I have to work on Monday, well I don't have time to wait on the city to clear the snow around my car. So I do it myself.

 

[Booker T Garvey]

Brehs I'm tired.

I'm fukking tired of this shyt. I been working weekends at a hospital a couple of months now. Every weekend I'm see a black man that got shot or one in the morgue.

Like literally in the last 48 hours I have moved two different black men to the morgue for two separate shootings.

The only way to fix this shyt is by giving folks a better option. Jobs and resources. But it's hard to run a business providing these with the environment the way it is.

Help me out brehs. Are we just fukked up?

we are.

but after seeing what's going on now with the R Kelly situation and how an entire culture of behavior is being discussed and examined
anything can change if the discussion is presented in the proper way....I believe these 2 things are needed for shyt to really change:

1) having uncomfortable, necessary, and honest discussions without people getting emotional and calling people sellouts and agents
i'm talking about going to the root causes of this shyt, the music, the glorification of street culture, the respect and adulation that comes with that...
that's on us. the conditions are on them, the CULTURE surrounding it is on us

2) a spiritual awakening, a movement, and even though I am not religiously aligned with these brothers, I think they can bring about serious change:

 

[Eddy Gordo]

What city are you in?

Can't tell you that. A young man got dreams. Coli wolves ain't gonna find me and fukk it up. I will say the city got around 200,000 people. But the murder rate higher than Chicago.

The simplest explanation is that it comes down to jobs, access to resources, and education.

Historically in communities with a higher concentrations of African Americans, there's a common theme of failing institutions( underfunded / overcrowded schools, limited access to medical services, and inadequate social services that don't properly address the needs of people in African American communities). A lot of programs and services are typically tied to taxes, but African Americans, historically are paid less, receive less call backs for equally qualified resumes, and suffer the most from unemployment.

One aspect of perpetual that is rarely considered, revolves around brain drain and the concept of black flight. This implies that the well to do blacks, or people who can afford to move, out of economically disadvantaged neighborhoods, do so. Far too often connections from more prosperous black Americans, aren't being passed down or shared communally to other African Americans at a disadvantage.

African Americans in the suburbs, have just as much responsibility for helping to fix issues in the hood, as the individuals caught in a perpetual cycle, associated with economically disadvantaged areas.

With that said, the largest blame still falls are city and state governments. I'll address this later.

It's hard to convince black folks with options to set up shop and help folks out with jobs and opportunities. A major reason is the violence. And I can't blame them. This just seems like a cycle without a solution.

I'm not gonna even address the government becaibe that help ain't coming.

 

[Henny and_ HotWings]

Ugh, I’m tired of seeing videos like this with MY PEOPLE in it

 

[NvrCMyNut]

Almost always black ppl

 

[NvrCMyNut]

The simplest explanation is that it comes down to jobs, access to resources, and education.

Historically in communities with a higher concentrations of African Americans, there's a common theme of failing institutions( underfunded / overcrowded schools, limited access to medical services, and inadequate social services that don't properly address the needs of people in African American communities). A lot of programs and services are typically tied to taxes, but African Americans, historically are paid less, receive less call backs for equally qualified resumes, and suffer the most from unemployment.

One aspect of perpetual that is rarely considered, revolves around brain drain and the concept of black flight. This implies that the well to do blacks, or people who can afford to move, out of economically disadvantaged neighborhoods, do so. Far too often connections from more prosperous black Americans, aren't being passed down or shared communally to other African Americans at a disadvantage.

African Americans in the suburbs, have just as much responsibility for helping to fix issues in the hood, as the individuals caught in a perpetual cycle, associated with economically disadvantaged areas.

With that said, the largest blame still falls are city and state governments. I'll address this later.

How do you explain this phenom in Toronto or London for example? Universal healthcare, access to some of the greatest social care in the world. Or how do you explain crime rates dropping when Hispanics move into those same hoods? You notice this shooting was in the suburbs right?

 

[UberEatsDriver]

Can't tell you that. A young man got dreams. Coli wolves ain't gonna find me and fukk it up. I will say the city got around 200,000 people. But the murder rate higher than Chicago.
It's hard to convince black folks with options to set up shop and help folks out with jobs and opportunities. A major reason is the violence. And I can't blame them. This just seems like a cycle without a solution.

I'm not gonna even address the government becaibe that help ain't coming.

The murder rate being higher than Chicago is probably all I need to know lol.

 

[big bun]

All you opinionated muthafukkas need to go outside and get a reality check. The questions i’ve seen in this thread suggest y’all don’t know shyt. And please stop with these long ass posts with all these bullshyt talking points you heard from some movie or some shyt. Y’all sound stupid as fukk and sheltered as fukk. This is a sad situation, but goddamn y’all some insufferable ass muthafukkas.