2chainz "ghetto dreams" is top 5 hip hop song in 2012!

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Because it's all about entertainment. Jay said it best. "I would spit it, if yall would buy it, that's good business."

It's like a movie, with fantastic stories of drug dealing and crime. That shyt sells. The problem isn't the artist, it's the fans. The artist isn't buying all his own albums, he makes a product that people enjoy enough to buy. And who really wants to hear about everyday normal shyt? Wasn't Asher Roth's whole shtick about being a college kid? He was a straight dud.

The world is supply and demand, and every body is demanding these fanatical stories from the ghettos. In any other scenario we would applaud this dude for taking advantage of the system.

and all of that phony shyt went right outta the window when yall let Ross off the hook. We are grown people listening to this music, you don't need a rapper to separate fiction from reality for you. You should know by now when a nikka is real and when he's full of shyt.

Thats new tho. When the gangster rap first started we were told its reality. The rappers are just writing songs about the things they see in their neighborhoods on a day to day basis. Now we're told that rappers are like filmmakers just writing stories to entertain the masses...

But gangster movies don't make the most profit. Family movies do by far. So why aren't rappers pushed towards making family friendly raps if its just entertainment and supply and demand?

Interesting analogy becuz if you are a young black actor or filmmaker you have a better shot at getting paid by playing a criminal than playing any other role.

Who is making these decisions? Lots of questions to be asked before we say "its just entertainment"...
 

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For second, dude doesn't come even come off some kind of stupid guy...every interview I've seen him do he seems like a pretty smart dude...he's not pulling any kind of "be stupid in front of the cameras" type act...seen him advocating for voting rights and shyt, not something you do if you're trying to feign stupidity..he just is who he is...

He doesn't even seem "dumb" in his music. Just very casual.

I got nothing bad to say about 2Chainz
 

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:stopitslime: so we should shyt on our own integrity and intelligence because someone is willing to pay us to make a fool out of ourselves. Foh wit that shyt. If more rappers came out telling the youth that they got all these cars, women, and jewelry from going to school and making sound life decisions, then more people would want to hear about it.

Who the fukk is "We," nikka???

You are a grown man, 2Chainz don't represent you, or black people in general. He represents 2Chainz.

It's funny how yall are quick to call him the c00n, but yall care so much about how the white man sees you.

and Im tired of yall talkin about what kids should be hearing. Kids need parents more than rappers. Stop blaming rappers for fukked up kids and a fukked up society.
 

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I call bullshyt on needing to rap about gangbanging and selling drugs to sell records in 2012

dudes seriously in here saying "well thats what sells, thats what people want a gangster fantasy"

Rick Ross GFID Flopped^^^
Nas, Wiz Khalifia, Mac Miller, Nicki Minaj, big sean, drake, wale, kanye, j cole, all sell records and are successfull by being themselves and none of them are gangster

Even jayz doesnt rap about being in the streets anymore and he doing good

lil wayne C4 - singles where "how to love" "6foot 7 foot" - none of those songs had gangster lyrics

2 chainz is a clown :wow: he could have made the same songs without being all extra

and gtfo outta here with him being a dealer while maintaining a 4.0. Dude was a ludacris weed carrier until he switched his whole style up and sold it to the public
 

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It's not about hustlin or not. 2chains doesn't speak or act like an intelligent person. He doesn't promote intelligence or education. He promotes ignorance, he purposely alters his speach to sound like an idiot. He purposely ignores his own educucted past and promotes his hustlin past. He does all of this just to make chump change, compared to the people that are making millions off his willingness to forfeit his own integrity.

2chainz didnt hide his educated past. hes the one that brought it up. he also shows his intelligence in interviews.

i agree that he comes off as a minstrel show tho. i mean, its all entertainment but his rap steez is just too dumb, even if he was a 2.0 student.

Very true...but the real question...why? They taking a high risk for a extremely small reward...:why:

I remember a dude kicked out of college about 10 years ago for selling weed. He was crying and when his parents came and got him...they were holding their heads down while carrying his shyt out the dorm.

I dunno having been in college and seeing niccas sell weed, pills, whatever... but living in squalor and barely passin classes...I wonder :why:


now im talkin about college niccas

i mean you can have 4.0s for years but you cant eat or wear a report card.

and if you have the opportunity to make good money, 9 times out o 10, youre not gonna turn it down. lets keep it 100.

Why not? People sell drugs at legit good paying jobs. WHo really thinks about getting caught at anything? Why did Bernie Madoff risk his stature to do what he did?

and this.

this basically sums it all up.

im watching this larry lavin documentary right now on the BIO channel. lol. what a coincidence.
 

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Thats new tho. When the gangster rap first started we were told its reality. The rappers are just writing songs about the things they see in their neighborhoods on a day to day basis. Now we're told that rappers are like filmmakers just writing stories to entertain the masses...

But gangster movies don't make the most profit. Family movies do by far. So why aren't rappers pushed towards making family friendly raps if its just entertainment and supply and demand?

Interesting analogy becuz if you are a young black actor or filmmaker you have a better shot at getting paid by playing a criminal than playing any other role.

Who is making these decisions? Lots of questions to be asked before we say "its just entertainment"...

We are a far cry from those days. That got whored out by the time NWA made it's 2nd or 3rd album. That rap that gave you just a street vision, or social commentary is gone. Rap lost it's soul a long long time ago. To complain about it now is mute. Too many people support the bullshyt, and when artists try to come out on a higher education note, the get the Lupe treatment. He can never leave that lane and satisfy his fan base in anyway.

If 2Chainz "evolved," tomorrow and got on some uber consciousness rap, yall would praise him for his, "growth."

The fans killed hip hop, plain and simple. Yall have been spoonfed bullshyt for so long, yall couldnt live without it. That's why Ross is so successful. People dont care about the man, they care about the fantasy.
 

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The OP got his ass handed to him repeatedly on :hamster: for this racist shyt. fukking CAC.
 

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[2 Chainz - Hook:]
Murder, Murder, This Right Here That Murder
Pulled the Car Out The Garage, They Screaming Bloody Murder
Murder, Murder Chalk Line Around Your Daughter
3 Cell Phones and I Still Don't Ever Call Her

[2 Chainz - Verse 1:]
Murder, Murder, Smoking on that murder
If a girl out with me, Just know she Murder
Murder, Murder, Take Her Ass like Burglar
Then I Put her On the Loud and feed her turkey burgers
Murder, Murder, This is Bloody Murder
All This ice all over me, I should wear a thermos
Murder, Murder, Hit you with the Burner
Hit you with the burner, hit you with the burner

[Hook]

[2 Chainz - Verse 2:]
Murder, Murder, yea I'm killing nikkas beats
When I'm out of town and on the stage it's rest in peace
Murder, Murder Somebody call my lawyer
They said I was killing Tennessee when I was down in Florida
Murder, Murder, my shoes none than a quarter
Rapping with the murder team nobody wanna record us
Murder, Murder Listen to the chorus
nikkas wanna know how I get it when I get
Don't worry, Just know it's murder

:wow:
 

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You can trap and go to school (although a 4.0 is hard) but that is few and far in between

Chainz shoulda embraced it more, woulda got more respect
 

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so wha the nikka got a 4.0


only means he did wha he had to do...got the job done..not for no rapper..but for himself n his family

funny how many southern nikkas been thru the college thing...n did what they had to do..n got in the rap game..rap game get dead...they got somethin2 fall back on..

shyt pimp c performed sonnets at carnegie hall..gettin d1 tenor solo ratings n shyt...he get tired of rap..nikka coulda sung operas

do it change the outlook on how i look at any of em..nope...do i feel they need to have positive messages to help the youth...nope..i dont give a fukk..

my concern is mines.,.fukk everybody elses ...my kids already know this shyt is fictional ...jus like freddy michael..jason n chucky


instead of these bullshyt rappers who aint gone amount to shyt..or get pulitzer prizes..y not put em on to some of the nikkas who won ...

nikkas so concern bout the youth n rappers..nikki maya n langston work aint went nowhere...:shaq:
 

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We are a far cry from those days. That got whored out by the time NWA made it's 2nd or 3rd album. That rap that gave you just a street vision, or social commentary is gone. Rap lost it's soul a long long time ago. To complain about it now is mute. Too many people support the bullshyt, and when artists try to come out on a higher education note, the get the Lupe treatment. He can never leave that lane and satisfy his fan base in anyway.

If 2Chainz "evolved," tomorrow and got on some uber consciousness rap, yall would praise him for his, "growth."

The fans killed hip hop, plain and simple. Yall have been spoonfed bullshyt for so long, yall couldnt live without it. That's why Ross is so successful. People dont care about the man, they care about the fantasy.

:ohhh:

Fans act like heroin addicts: they can't function properly w/o their fix and do anything to stay in that state. That fantasy shyt is second nature to these people nowadays. When was the last time a conscious rapper blew up and went multiplatinum, outside of (old) Kanye?
 
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