Outlaw
New Hope For the HaveNotz
Why did Biden lose in ‘08? Just because you lose a primary doesn’t mean you can’t win a general election
2024 U.S. Presidential Election Thread
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so tell me with a straight face that if we had a real primary last year, kamala would have won it. go ahead
i'm not "whistling" anything, breh. i'm looking at the fukking reality of winning the electoral college. the rust belt. this is about beating donald trump; nothing else
Who knows? Last year you were sure that Meatball had next. There are countless of governors who people thought had next from both parties that just couldn’t survive the scrutiny that comes with running for national office. Atleast Kamala has been vetted. Last thing we need is for the Trump campaign or the media to drop an October surprise on unvetted candidate. Plus Kamala has the advantage of being part of a ticket that has an infrastructure in place.
Personally, I’m not invested in Kamala (l was going in on Kamala in 2016) or any of the other guys, I just think she is the best positioned person. I suspect, based on the enthusiasm we are seeing for her candidacy, that most Obama/Biden voters don’t care either. They just wanted a candidate who they feel can take the fight to Trump.
The whole border czar thing is confused, to be generous about it
She was tasked with diplomatic work and outreach in source countries, El Salvador, Guatemala,--- that act as both transit points for drug trafficking, and source countries of immigrants-- like what can the US do in Guatemala to stem the tide of immigrants, and drug shipments?
It's like drug policy, she wasn't tasked with arresting drug traffickers, or sealing the border, she was tasked with reduction strategies. Like supply issues, as opposed to demand or structure. and aside from that one bad interview, there wasn't a whole lot more to the "huge failure" other than the typical border mess of policy and humanatarian issues and bad leadership.
Also, worth noting the Biden administration has arrested and extradited, and indicted Los Chapitos, who ARE actually responsible for fentanyl importation and innovation. They extradited his son, Oviidio, Chapos son, and Nestor Isidio Perez Salas, aka El Nini. Of course, the former admin prosecuted Chapo Guzman, but he was captured and extradited under the Obama admin.
She was tasked with diplomatic work and outreach in source countries, El Salvador, Guatemala,--- that act as both transit points for drug trafficking, and source countries of immigrants-- like what can the US do in Guatemala to stem the tide of immigrants, and drug shipments?
It's like drug policy, she wasn't tasked with arresting drug traffickers, or sealing the border, she was tasked with reduction strategies. Like supply issues, as opposed to demand or structure. and aside from that one bad interview, there wasn't a whole lot more to the "huge failure" other than the typical border mess of policy and humanatarian issues and bad leadership.
Also, worth noting the Biden administration has arrested and extradited, and indicted Los Chapitos, who ARE actually responsible for fentanyl importation and innovation. They extradited his son, Oviidio, Chapos son, and Nestor Isidio Perez Salas, aka El Nini. Of course, the former admin prosecuted Chapo Guzman, but he was captured and extradited under the Obama admin.
88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
Right I hate to be that guy but if we're doing anything other than mocking Fox at this point we're doing it wrong
They literally got sued into the dirt for spreading election denial bs and their on air personalities an management are a bunch of rapists and sexual harassers
the cac mamba
Veteran
interesting. on that note, is america racially biased?
the cac mamba
Veteran
the border czar attack is a bunch of bullshyt, the VP doesn't have the power to do anything about the border
Kamala is weak on the border for things like being on tape saying we should Abolish ICE
and Dems' general refusal to tell people not to come here illegally
the cac mamba
Veteran
you doOutlaw
New Hope For the HaveNotz
Yes it is but people who are racist by in large are already voting for Trump
Roger king
Superstar
Yes, is america gender biased? Yes. Is america anti jewish biased? Yes. Anti catholic bias? Yes, we can literally go on this for hours, people were worried back in the 60s people wouldn't vote for JFK because he was catholic. This level of enthusiasm and grassroots support and fundraising wouldn't have been achieved by just any bland generic white politician, polling has also shown her in a stronger postion. I will continue to check you when i see you try to both sides this issue
the cac mamba
Veteran
yes, it would have been achieved by whoever replaced biden
ADevilYouKhow
Rhyme Reason
That isn’t a given at all
I swear.... At the next debate. I just hope she pulls remote with a button that fact checks everything...trump just flat out lying saying Kamala want abortions to 8 9 months
the cac mamba
Veteran
neither is what transpired for kamala this week winning her the electoral college
Th3G3ntleman
Superstar
How does this guy get away with concern trolling for 12 years? Since 2012 this dude has played this same role and he ain't get the fukking boot yet?
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