2024 U.S. Presidential Election Thread: Donald Trump wins & will return to the White House

WHO WINS?


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nightwing2016

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What "transformative" legislation do you think Obama should have and could have gotten passsed? Be specific. From day one Republicans adopted a policy of full-throated opposition and were willing to fukk the country over to increase their chances of regaining power.

Free universal health care, codifying roe v wade, major bank regulation as well as restoring the wealth to the everyday American that got screwed, pension recovery, major infrastructure bill all things he ran on and had a super majority in both houses and a popular mandate. There are no excuses for Barack’s conservatism those first two years of his presidency he didn’t have to work with republicans he chose to reach across the aisle
 

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“people” only do this when they have motivation to do so.

Again i’m not accepting ignorance when bigotry is right in our face :stopitslime:

The middle/working class chose Kamala. They also chose Hillary. They both got clapped up.

10-15 million people stayed home, clearly a huge chunk of that white working/middle class didn’t care who won. Kamala couldn’t motivate those people to come out that is why she lost.
 

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Free universal health care, codifying roe v wade, major bank regulation as well as restoring the wealth to the everyday American that got screwed, pension recovery, major infrastructure bill all things he ran on and had a super majority in both houses and a popular mandate. There are no excuses for Barack’s conservatism those first two years of his presidency he didn’t have to work with republicans he chose to reach across the aisle
that's the lies you all tell yourselves. those 6 weeks he had a filibuster proof majority also included conservative democrats like nebraska nelson and a conservative independent like lieberman who was proud to let everyone know what he wouldn't go for.
 

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Edit: To me this is the billion dollar question. Why did these people choose to stay home this time around?

I think part of it is Gaza/Israel. I think the other part is disillusionment over inflation. Another is apathy. People don't trust experts anymore and it's killing the sane half of the country
 

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Free universal health care, codifying roe v wade, major bank regulation as well as restoring the wealth to the everyday American that got screwed, pension recovery, major infrastructure bill all things he ran on and had a super majority in both houses and a popular mandate. There are no excuses for Barack’s conservatism those first two years of his presidency he didn’t have to work with republicans he chose to reach across the aisle
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He barely got Dems on board with a Heritage Foundation health plan that wound up costing dozens of them their seats and you think they were going for Universal Healthcare? :gucci:

He did get infastructure and economic recovery legsislation passed.
Dodd-Frank act for bank regulation.
Codifying Roe v Wade was a non-starter, didn't have the votes.
 

acri1

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He barely got Dems on board with a Heritage Foundation health plan that wound up costing dozens of them their seats and you think they were going for Universal Healthcare? :gucci:

He did get infastructure and economic recovery legsislation passed.
Dodd-Frank act for bank regulation.
Codifying Roe v Wade was a non-starter, didn't have the votes.

Yeah I think people get a little naive about how much Obama really could've done.
 

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Despite the 6 point rightward shift from 2020, Dems look on track to gain at least 2 seats in the House.

It's theoretically possible they could still win 1 seat majority but it's increasingly less likely. Depends on favorable results breaking in the California races.

Which at the very least means Trump won't be able get anything much done legislatively. Which he prefers anyway honestly
 
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