2024 U.S. Presidential Election Thread: Donald Trump wins & will return to the White House

WHO WINS?


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ghostwriterx

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I really go back to the Obama admin. He had the chance to be transformative those first two years and refused.

What "transformative" legislation do you think Obama should have and could have gotten passsed? Be specific. From day one Republicans adopted a policy of full-throated opposition and were willing to fukk the country over to increase their chances of regaining power.
 

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Breh, there’s no way to argue that people were feeling hurt by the economy so they ran out to vote for the guy talking about increasing tariffs and canceling social economic programs.

That does not compute with reality.

I’m not letting you throw these people “ignorance” bail. They knew exactly who they were voting for and why, and it had NOTHING to do with the economy.
People punish the incumbents. Doesn’t really matter what the other side is saying.
Let's not be naive here and overstate these "economic anxiety" arguments.

Hillary was a woman who destroyed Trump in the debates and had much better policies that Trump (and the economy was actually good then) and she still lost. Kamala was a black woman who did the same and lost even worse. Biden (a white man) was able to beat Trump (at least before he became senile and unpopular).

Sometimes the simplest reason is the most honest one :yeshrug: I'm extremely unconvinced that any economic messaging would've made a difference.


And this is from someone who voted Bernie in the primaries twice.
im not convinced Biden beats Trump without a pandemic.
 

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People punish the incumbents. Doesn’t really matter what the other side is saying.
“people” only do this when they have motivation to do so.

Again i’m not accepting ignorance when bigotry is right in our face :stopitslime:

The middle/working class chose Kamala. They also chose Hillary. They both got clapped up.
 

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The only thing interesting on CNN is Van Jones's bytchass crying.

No offense, but if there's a day ending in Y, Van Jones will cry.

Can a progressive reconcile this for me?

Biden governed as an economic populist and in return his administration lost support from the economically anxious

Messaging. Really comes down to that.
 
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