2024 U.S. Presidential Election Thread: Donald Trump wins & will return to the White House; GOP wins U.S. Senate & U.S. House

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I wrote out some longer post about crime and stats and all that

somewhere like Downtown San Diego is covered in fentanyl and homeless crime. It's a major major issue that everyone sees visually everday. People smoking meth in public. Human waste all over the streets. Tents where drug sales and prostitution are conducted openly. And this is all in the same area as high tourist places, families, professional class people, working people,

but if you tell people 'well actually if you check the FBI stats, crime is down overall', you just sound like an liar, or delusionally out of touch
 

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I wrote out some longer post about crime and stats and all that

somewhere like Downtown San Diego is covered in fentanyl and homeless crime. It's a major major issue that everyone sees visually everday. People smoking meth in public. Human waste all over the streets. Tents where drug sales and prostitution are conducted openly. And this is all in the same area as high tourist places, families, professional class people, working people,

but if you tell people 'well actually if you check the FBI stats, crime is down overall', you just sound like an liar, or delusionally out of touch
Crime is down, but homelessness has increased over the years. The latter needs to be addressed.

Dems are unfortunately too "scared" to do so.
 

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Imagine telling someone that either has or knows someone that car/home broken into or mugged on the street that,"Dont worry, crime is down 15% overall from X year to now!"

Especially when you are having these car break in's or store thefts, that is very visible and has definite impact on the community. Just like with telling people the economy is good because the stock market is good and other thing nebulous to the average person, but people hurting over things like rising prices and rent increases. There is a disconnect with how things are reported vs how they are, for good and the bad.
True, but then that average person goes out and votes for an incompetent felon that plans to implement universal tariffs that will cause inflation to skyrocket.
 

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True, but then that average person goes out and votes for an incompetent felon that plans to implement universal tariffs that will cause inflation to skyrocket.
When you realize most people are idiots and/or willfully ignorant, that will not surprise you.
 

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I wrote out some longer post about crime and stats and all that

somewhere like Downtown San Diego is covered in fentanyl and homeless crime. It's a major major issue that everyone sees visually everday. People smoking meth in public. Human waste all over the streets. Tents where drug sales and prostitution are conducted openly. And this is all in the same area as high tourist places, families, professional class people, working people,

but if you tell people 'well actually if you check the FBI stats, crime is down overall', you just sound like an liar, or delusionally out of touch
Last year or two I was in Denver and San Diego and while nice cities I was blown away by the homelessness I was like :ohhh:
 

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Crime is down, but homelessness has increased over the years. The latter needs to be addressed.

Dems are unfortunately too "scared" to do so.

When you see the crime around homelessness, the fentanyl, the meth, the theft, the violence, the rape, the killings, the public sees 80% of that in their face, in the open, it sends the message that things are out of control, and the people running things are incompetent at best.

that's not 100% accurate as far as crime stats and all that, but just San Diego has transformed in 10 years from some homeless to out of control. We have a whole community under a bridge near a water channel, it's like a homeless island, hundreds of people.

 

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Last year or two I was in Denver and San Diego and while nice cities I was blown away by the homelessness I was like :ohhh:
A lot of this is not some overnight shyt, it has been steadily getting worse and worse. Add in decades of not building enough shelters, not wanting shelters built in certain areas. mental health funding in the shytter, not building enough high density rental/housing units, housing being used as investments rather than living spaces, wage stagnation, etc...

The average person now cries about it but people have been warning about these issues for decades with no action.
 

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Crime is down, but homelessness has increased over the years. The latter needs to be addressed.

Dems are unfortunately too "scared" to do so.
Crime isn’t down. I don’t know why y’all try to do this everyone talks about public safety
 

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Violet crime is definitely down. Other types of crime aren't, though.

Also, who is "y'all"? Stop using such vague terminology.
Down from what? Only recently have cities started getting serious about bonds and sentencing for repeat offenders
 

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Down from what? Only recently have cities started getting serious about bonds and sentencing for repeat offenders
According to the FBI, violent crime decreased by an estimated 3% in 2023 compared to 2022. This is a continuation of the decline that began in 2022, when violent crime dropped to near pre-pandemic levels.


Murder
Murder and non-negligent manslaughter decreased by an estimated 11.6% in 2023 compared to 2022. This was the largest decline in decades.


Rapes
The number of reported rapes decreased by more than 9% in 2023 compared to 2022.


Property crime
Overall property crime decreased by more than 2% in 2023.

An exception: However, motor vehicle theft increased by nearly 13%, reaching the highest rate since 2007.
 

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According to the FBI, violent crime decreased by an estimated 3% in 2023 compared to 2022. This is a continuation of the decline that began in 2022, when violent crime dropped to near pre-pandemic levels.


Murder
Murder and non-negligent manslaughter decreased by an estimated 11.6% in 2023 compared to 2022. This was the largest decline in decades.


Rapes
The number of reported rapes decreased by more than 9% in 2023 compared to 2022.


Property crime
Overall property crime decreased by more than 2% in 2023.

An exception: However, motor vehicle theft increased by nearly 13%, reaching the highest rate since 2007.
Crime is still high as hell bruh. Been that way since people thought it was good idea to close schools during the pandemic
 

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According to the FBI, violent crime decreased by an estimated 3% in 2023 compared to 2022. This is a continuation of the decline that began in 2022, when violent crime dropped to near pre-pandemic levels.


Murder
Murder and non-negligent manslaughter decreased by an estimated 11.6% in 2023 compared to 2022. This was the largest decline in decades.


Rapes
The number of reported rapes decreased by more than 9% in 2023 compared to 2022.


Property crime
Overall property crime decreased by more than 2% in 2023.

An exception: However, motor vehicle theft increased by nearly 13%, reaching the highest rate since 2007.
You’re wasting your tine. He doesnt care about facts. Man is a conservative.
 
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