2024 U.S. Presidential Election Thread: Donald Trump wins & will return to the White House; GOP wins U.S. Senate & U.S. House

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Micky Mikey

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Whites abandoned the Dems because due to racial resentment. Look at the 1984 map.

The Dems just said fukk it, we are getting our asses kicked, if Neo Liberalism is what they want, let’s give it to them:yeshrug:

The root cause of our problems is not the scumbag politicians or sell out parties, it’s the people. Specifically, the white working/middle class. These folks have been the obstacle to making life better via the political process.
Bingo. I don't think there's anything Dems can do to get the white working/middle class back. They are terminally committed to racial grievance. Perhaps a few of them can cross over with an economic populist agenda, but for the most part, they're lost.
 

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They gonna hit Elon where it hurts

elon don't give a fukk, he's helped usher in a new era of right wing domination and is co-head of DOGE. any twitter losses will be made up with tesla and spaceX.

and those people leaving twitter makes it more of a right wing cesspool that will still have blacks and latinos who can't quit it soaking it all in.
 

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Whites abandoned the Dems because due to racial resentment. Look at the 1984 map.

The Dems just said fukk it, we are getting our asses kicked, if Neo Liberalism is what they want, let’s give it to them:yeshrug:

The root cause of our problems is not the scumbag politicians or sell out parties, it’s the people. Specifically, the white working/middle class. These folks have been the obstacle to making life better via the political process.
I think a large swath of white people did leave the Dems because of racial resentment. I also think you have to factor in how bad the 1970s was for people as the country started deindustrialization, Japan and South Korea manufactured goods better and cheaper than Americans and OPEC became a force causing an energy crisis.

Saying it was only due to the civil rights movement misses the whole story.

The Dems chose neoliberalism starting with Jimmy Carter’s presidency.

And despite that, the opening was there as Barack Hussein Obama won a large chunk of working class whites votes back in 2008 and Bernie was winning them in ‘16 and ‘20.
 

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I think a large swath of white people did leave the Dems because of racial resentment. I also think you have to factor in how bad the 1970s was for people as the country started deindustrialization, Japan and South Korea manufactured goods better and cheaper than Americans and OPEC became a force causing an energy crisis.

Saying it was only due to the civil rights movement misses the whole story.

The Dems chose neoliberalism starting with Jimmy Carter’s presidency.

And despite that, the opening was there as Barack Hussein Obama won a large chunk of working class whites votes back in 2008 and Bernie was winning them in ‘16 and
‘20.

Oh my sweet summer child. It wasn’t just civil rights. It was the Vietnam protests, women liberation, counter culture movement and probably other culture war issues coming out of the 60s into the 70s.

The southern strategy wasn’t based on economics.

Like a wise poet from Memphis once told us, don’t save her, she don’t wanna be saved.
 

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Oh my sweet summer child. It wasn’t just civil rights. It was the Vietnam protests, women liberation, counter culture movement and probably other culture war issues coming out of the 60s into the 70s.

The southern strategy wasn’t based on economics.

Like a wise poet from Memphis once told us, don’t save her, she don’t wanna be saved.
My non reading and sweet child, the 1970s saw an American economic downturn as well.

No one denies a large swath of whites are racist, but the economy began changing for most Americans in the 70s.
 
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Compared to a red state army being sent to blue states?
Y'all sounding completely bugged out right now. I believe Trump is A grave threat, but until he actually tries to pull some bullshyt I'm not moving like then MAGAs. He should be removed from office only if he actually pulls some bullshyt worthy of impeachment and conviction. We will have to see what happens.
 
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