2024 U.S. Presidential Election Thread: Donald Trump wins & will return to the White House; GOP wins U.S. Senate & U.S. House

WHO WINS?


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88m3

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no one on here and I mean no one sees those people as democrats and they were rightly chastised for it particularly the c*nt in the video

also safe to assume the bill failed because republicans largely voted against it

cool narrative though, Jesus
 

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It’s crazy to see black men in this thread buying into Bernie Sanders bullshyt analysis of “Democrats should not hurt racist white ppl feelings so they can get their vote.”

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Interesting point. Why can Trump insult minorities and gain their votes but Democrats have to coddle the working class whites to get their votes?

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Can you elaborate on some of the ways that you think Democrats, or their manner, express cultural disdain for the underclass?
Sure. You ever seen those photos or videos of rich white kids going to "Africa" to build a well or a school for a summer? You notice how they interact with the locals? That's the Democrats. They're a party run by people who hold fundraisers for homelessness while calling the police on a homeless person resting on a bench outside their favorite park. This wasn't always the case. It's a result of America transforming from a manufacturing economy to a service/financial economy, and the resultant fracturing of the middle class. The Democratic Party saw this as an opportunity to pivot from union halls - where the underclass congregate and politic - to University luncheons and coastal economy fundraisers. Those spaces have very different cultural practices and histories and politics, which has resulted in the Democrats adopting a noblesse oblige posture towards the underclass, which they think they're successfully fooling them into buying. This photo of Hillary doing a walk through of the kitchen in an East Harlem apartment is the Democrats posture to the underclass in a nutshell:

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Also, what does it say about the population that Trump saying ignorant shyt makes them feel like he is one of them rather than repulses them? I know you've already admitted that Americans are ignorant, but how are people that are not only attracted to his repugnant behavior and style, but also want that in the Oval Office, supposed to be led away from that?
To me, this speaks to the debased spiritual atmosphere in America produced by 21st century capitalism. I don't want to over-inflate the importance of modernity, because American has always been a nation of antisocial paranoiacs, but the collapse of the mid-century American socio-economic float has really rubbed the sheen off the post-War cultural consensus of political leadership aesthetic. In many ways, it's just returning to the crass, pugilistic style of prior eras of massive inequality like the 19th century robber baron era. How are the people supposed to be led away from that? Build a sustainable, social economy and get rid of the dog-eat-dog mentality (good luck, this is as American as apple pie) so people don't feel like they're in the thunderdome with their neighbors and choosing political leadership that promises to hurt the other guy so you can survive.

You're talking about a male population that sees clowns like Andrew Tate and Joe Rogan as thought leaders. It's a truism that politics flows downstream from culture, I feel like you (and all of us) are speaking to issues concerning a broken culture that cannot be fixed by politicians.
I agree that politics flow downstream from culture. What I'm suggesting is that culture also flows downstream from the means and relations of production. The base dominates and shapes the superstructure.
 
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He really did.

I’m so pissed at him
Legacy completely ruined, but completely appropriate for this smug ass career politician that had his legacy about to be cemented on the one yard when all he had to do was... Give America a fair chance to defeat Trump. He said... Fhj vdfjj cfhnbdg I'll run for re-election.
 

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Interesting point. Why can Trump insult minorities and gain their votes but Democrats have to coddle the working class whites to get their votes?

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It’s crazy to see black men in this thread buying into Bernie Sanders bullshyt analysis of “Democrats should not hurt racist white ppl feelings so they can get their vote.”

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75 percent of the public is white. You don't go to Nigeria and trash black people. 51 percent of the public like him enough to vote for him.

Why is it the same black people that trash Bernie Sanders never have a word for the DNC or the so called norms that lead to this. where was the outrage over Cardi b messing up or Liz Cheney? Does this sound like a functioning party to you?

But this isn't about Bernie. Why can't people admit Kamala sucked?
 
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Yeah, let them be unemployed and their credit score ruined. They gonna have credit scores under 400 soon. :mjlol:
I don’t know why he would pull such an idiot move by attaching his personal information with his online bigotry. Especially during these times. He’s going to be either underemployed or unemployed unless he has some highly sought after skill. And it’s going to get worse with Trump’s presidency.
 
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