2024 U.S. Presidential Election Thread: Donald Trump wins & will return to the White House; GOP wins U.S. Senate & U.S. House

[the next guy]

nvm

 

[RickyGQ]

Your problem is that you think that I say working class to mean white working class the way the mainstream media does. And the way you’re comfortable understanding if. I was literally having fits during the 2016 and 2020 primaries being upset that working class black primary voters were going against the first populist movement from white and Latino voters that I saw in a primary in my lifetime.

You are stuck on the idea that Democrats can’t do anything because everyone is racist and that provides them cover for not being as aggressive on policies for the people that do vote for them. You either decide that you can’t do for your voters because it will alienate white voters that you need or you say that you can win without them and do what you should - you can’t have it both ways. You’re saying they can’t win those voters while Democrats offer half ass measures to the people they supposedly can win and use those racist people as an excuse for not doing it when the answer is higher income Dems don’t want it.

Ultimately, your race-first lens is why you didn’t like Sanders because what he’s saying doesn’t fit your perspective and you think he’s excusing racism. In actuality, he has said people of all colors that are working class must become engaged in the process. And then Democrats just lost an election because of unlikely working class voters and you’re acting like what we are saying is crazy.

Democrats win the popular vote because voters in most states think their vote doesn’t matter so they don’t show up - the popular vote shifted because more people showed up to vote in states that are of no consequence and Muslim voters, working class black voters, Latino voters and all rural voters shifted to the GOP in varying degrees. They literally lost the election among groups that make less than 100k. The results are right in front of your face and you’re ignoring them because like Democratic leaders - you want to win with the collation you want and not with the one you need and have.

Democrats aren’t being pulled in multiple directions . - they’re choosing the directions they want to follow. Obama beat Republicans over the head on the economy twice and made Romney a corporate raider - Dems made their last 3 elections about Trump’s character and got bailed out once by COVID. The Democrats need to frame the next election about greed - it’s an easy target that worked twice (but they probably won’t).

Bars.

 

[re'up]

Pelosi sounded completely delusional in that NY Times interview. Dangerously so. That is a core leadership issue. and I am not even someone who 'hates on' Nancy Pelosi like that.

 

[FAH1223]

what is

Latino areas of San Diego County shifted toward Trump, election results show

Results show that majority-Latino areas of San Diego County shifted toward Donald Trump by wide margins in the 2024 presidential election.

www.nbcsandiego.com

Stuff like this worked

 

[the next guy]

Your problem is that you think that I say working class to mean white working class the way the mainstream media does. And the way you’re comfortable understanding if. I was literally having fits during the 2016 and 2020 primaries being upset that working class black primary voters were going against the first populist movement from white and Latino voters that I saw in a primary in my lifetime.

You are stuck on the idea that Democrats can’t do anything because everyone is racist and that provides them cover for not being as aggressive on policies for the people that do vote for them. You either decide that you can’t do for your voters because it will alienate white voters that you need or you say that you can win without them and do what you should - you can’t have it both ways. You’re saying they can’t win those voters while Democrats offer half ass measures to the people they supposedly can win and use those racist people as an excuse for not doing it when the answer is higher income Dems don’t want it.

Ultimately, your race-first lens is why you didn’t like Sanders because what he’s saying doesn’t fit your perspective and you think he’s excusing racism. In actuality, he has said people of all colors that are working class must become engaged in the process. And then Democrats just lost an election because of unlikely working class voters and you’re acting like what we are saying is crazy.

Democrats win the popular vote because voters in most states think their vote doesn’t matter so they don’t show up - the popular vote shifted because more people showed up to vote in states that are of no consequence and Muslim voters, working class black voters, Latino voters and all rural voters shifted to the GOP in varying degrees. They literally lost the election among groups that make less than 100k. The results are right in front of your face and you’re ignoring them because like Democratic leaders - you want to win with the collation you want and not with the one you need and have.

Democrats aren’t being pulled in multiple directions . - they’re choosing the directions they want to follow. Obama beat Republicans over the head on the economy twice and made Romney a corporate raider - Dems made their last 3 elections about Trump’s character and got bailed out once by COVID. The Democrats need to frame the next election about greed - it’s an easy target that worked twice (but they probably won’t).

Yup.

"The country is racist" ----> there is a point this becomes a crutch. All the people (especially black DNC operatives) need to look in the mirror. Talk about things that matter. Communicate your success. Don't double down on unpopular wars. Explain why things are more expensive.

 

[RickyGQ]

Stuff like this worked

Again, two different sports. Cause the left does anything like this and it’s “pandering” and thinking so low of the Latinos cause “where is the substance”.

 

[3rdLetter]

Why he’s so empathetic all of a sudden?

Has he even paid E. Jean Caroll?

 

[FAH1223]

Again, two different sports. Cause the left does anything like this and it’s “pandering” and thinking so low of the Latinos cause “where is the substance”.

Biden wasn’t even investing in Latino media outreach

Harris did but it was way too late. Trump and the right has been investing in this since 2020

 

[Serious]

 

[Pressure]

no need to downplay racism and sexism. It’s inherently a part of how folks determine who to trust and want to get behind.

 

[Buck Seventy]

I always find it interesting that whenever Democrats lose elections, the solution is to take the viewpoints of Republicans. The saying goes, Democrats never win elections, Republicans only lose them.

 

[AquaCityBoy]

@No1 this could work

Gonna leave Colorado and New Mexico out to dry

 

[FAH1223]

Dems should retire Sotomayor and put Kamala in the supreme court

bribe manchin - do whatever it takes

 

[Json]

Your problem is that you think that I say working class to mean white working class the way the mainstream media does. And the way you’re comfortable understanding if. I was literally having fits during the 2016 and 2020 primaries being upset that working class black primary voters were going against the first populist movement from white and Latino voters that I saw in a primary in my lifetime.

You are stuck on the idea that Democrats can’t do anything because everyone is racist and that provides them cover for not being as aggressive on policies for the people that do vote for them. You either decide that you can’t do for your voters because it will alienate white voters that you need or you say that you can win without them and do what you should - you can’t have it both ways. You’re saying they can’t win those voters while Democrats offer half ass measures to the people they supposedly can win and use those racist people as an excuse for not doing it when the answer is higher income Dems don’t want it.

Ultimately, your race-first lens is why you didn’t like Sanders because what he’s saying doesn’t fit your perspective and you think he’s excusing racism. In actuality, he has said people of all colors that are working class must become engaged in the process. And then Democrats just lost an election because of unlikely working class voters and you’re acting like what we are saying is crazy.

Democrats win the popular vote because voters in most states think their vote doesn’t matter so they don’t show up - the popular vote shifted because more people showed up to vote in states that are of no consequence and Muslim voters, working class black voters, Latino voters and all rural voters shifted to the GOP in varying degrees. They literally lost the election among groups that make less than 100k. The results are right in front of your face and you’re ignoring them because like Democratic leaders - you want to win with the collation you want and not with the one you need and have.

Democrats aren’t being pulled in multiple directions . - they’re choosing the directions they want to follow. Obama beat Republicans over the head on the economy twice and made Romney a corporate raider - Dems made their last 3 elections about Trump’s character and got bailed out once by COVID. The Democrats need to frame the next election about greed - it’s an easy target that worked twice (but they probably won’t).

I think the Dems let that ship sail when they didn’t put anyone behind bars for the 08 crisis.

Since then it’s just just repeated itself. Get money for programs. That’s it.

The opioid crisis was an easy win and they didn’t do it. These companies are so big that even 50 billion dollar penalties is just an inconvenience

 

[Pressure]

I always find it interesting that whenever Democrats lose elections, the solution is to take the viewpoints of Republicans. The saying goes, Democrats never win elections, Republicans only lose them.

Dems won statewide for most of Nc and Kamala severely lagged behind.

Sometimes it’s also the messenger.