Your problem is that you think that I say working class to mean white working class the way the mainstream media does. And the way you’re comfortable understanding if. I was literally having fits during the 2016 and 2020 primaries being upset that working class black primary voters were going against the first populist movement from white and Latino voters that I saw in a primary in my lifetime.
What definition of working class are you using then? We can expand out from the stereotypical factory/plant “working class” to bartender/school teacher “working class” and regardless based on pure numbers it’s still majority white. And going further, if you use the latter definition are you saying we lost more of those people to Donald Trump?
You are stuck on the idea that Democrats can’t do anything because everyone is racist and that provides them cover for not being as aggressive on policies for the people that do vote for them. You either decide that you can’t do for your voters because it will alienate white voters that you need or you say that you can win without them and do what you should - you can’t have it both ways. You’re saying they can’t win those voters while Democrats offer half ass measures to the people they supposedly can win and use those racist people as an excuse for not doing it when the answer is higher income Dems don’t want it.
I’m saying they are starting off the game down 10 because many people are flat out or subconsciously racist. Or can have issues wedged to make them lean into those tendencies. I’m saying they need to lean into their actual base which are black people, marginalized groups and the educated (or atleast people who are smart enough to not vote for a fascist) and whoever benefits from that is a bonus. Chasing the white working class has been failing since 1964.
Ultimately, your race-first lens is why you didn’t like Sanders because what he’s saying doesn’t fit your perspective and you think he’s excusing racism. In actuality, he has said people of all colors that are working class must become engaged in the process. And then Democrats just lost an election because of unlikely working class voters and you’re acting like what we are saying is crazy.
My race first lense is molded by the race first lense of the country I live in. I think sanders is just like a lot of educated white people that grew up in idealistic bubbles, they are prone to downplay racism. They operate from a faulty perspective. People have been saying the “working class” needs to unite for decades he isn’t saying anything new. Again it makes sense on paper, why it hasn’t happened you can list out your various reasons why it’s the dems fault I can come to a simpler conclusion based on a couple centuries of evidence.
Democrats win the popular vote because voters in most states think their vote doesn’t matter so they don’t show up - the popular vote shifted because more people showed up to vote in states that are of no consequence and Muslim voters, working class black voters, Latino voters and all rural voters shifted to the GOP in varying degrees. They literally lost the election among groups that make less than 100k. The results are right in front of your face and you’re ignoring them because like Democratic leaders - you want to win with the collation you want and not with the one you need and have.
This thinking would also apply to those in red states, how many black people you think don’t vote in Mississippi, LA, etc. Gary chambers got the numbers. I want them to win period, but the consequences of losing are harmful to the people I care about. I’m saying stop chasing people not interested in being in the coalition.
Democrats aren’t being pulled in multiple directions . - they’re choosing the directions they want to follow. Obama beat Republicans over the head on the economy twice and made Romney a corporate raider - Dems made their last 3 elections about Trump’s character and got bailed out once by COVID. The Democrats need to frame the next election about greed - it’s an easy target that worked twice (but they probably won’t).
They are being pulled in multiple directions or else they wouldn’t be choosing the directions they want to follow. You contradicted yourself in the same sentence.
Yes I agree they need to focus on that. That is a good way to unite all the factions they have and will be easier as the non incumbent. If the “working class” wants to get behind that message great but I have a feeling the usual members of that working class will and the other usual members will find a way not to, as usual.
