2024 U.S. Presidential Election Thread: Donald Trump wins & will return to the White House; GOP wins U.S. Senate & U.S. House

[Sghost597]

 

[Sghost597]

 

[bnew]

america just tells on itself constantly. did rick scott say anything positive about Haitians when vance and trump were spreading lies? but he's tripping over himself to acknowledge Puerto Ricans humanity which I don't begrudge but that should apply to all of his constituents.

 

[FAH1223]

 

[MushroomX]

Legit, the USPS Marshals are no joke, these guys come out of the bushes to get you. Guys found the Unabomber.

 

[Spidey Man]

China and Russia would love another Middle East war.

 

[Bleed The Freak]

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/28/trump-rally-puerto-rico-pennsylvania-fallout-00185935

 

[FAH1223]

China and Russia would love another Middle East war.

To bog the U.S. down

But otherwise they both don’t. China loves cheap oil and Russia loves their bases in Syria

 

[B. Pumpaveli]

Anyone else feel like Trump is the only one running for president? Kamala feels like a made up thing, like she’s so non-existant at this point. its such a fukking travesty how they fumbled a sure thing after Biden dropped out. I saw an advisor say she skipped Rogan because of sheduling. Like is it so hard to fit it in and give her a chance to show her personality? The Trump interview is at 35 million views on YT alone

 

[re'up]

You're right that there are plenty of journalists who see Trump for what he is and call him out. But the structure they're in often undermines their efforts. Even if individual reporters and editors hate him, their work gets funneled through a filter more interested in "balance" than serving the public good. You can have a reporter saying, "This is dangerous" over the air, but if it's surrounded by panels treating Trump's authoritarianism as debate fodder or if it's followed by wall-to-wall rally coverage without context, the seriousness gets lost in all the noise.

You're completely missing the point. The media's capitalism-driven nature and need for "fukkery" doesn't just incidentally shape coverage of Trump, it's the very reason his rhetoric gets "sane-washed." When journalists and networks package his authoritarian tendencies as controversial statements or reduce his disregard for democratic norms to mere chaos, they aren't simply putting on a show for ratings; they're actively enabling his normalization. The corporation may love the eyeballs, but by sanitizing his words and framing his extremism as a sideshow, they give millions permission to see his actions as trivial or even acceptable. That's not just treating Trump with indifference; it's paving the way for him to be seen as just another political choice rather than an existential threat.

I agree with a lot of what you've been saying here and elsewhere, especially wrt foreign policy, but you have a blind spot for Trump, which leads you to downplay and diminish his threat and how he is treated. And that's ahrd to ignore.

This is very well explained, and 100% feel the same. Didn't see it in 2016/couldn't see it, but do now

 

[mastermind]

This is a fair point, but my response would be that if the general membership of the Democratic were highly interested in economic progressiveness, they would have dragged the party to that point

I would argue the electorate are not that aware of policies to make that a move.

And the Dems worked hard to co-opt any activist movement.

If you look at the Republican Party, evangelicals and rural whites installed Trump when the GOP wanted to keep putting up your typical economic and political neoliberal candidates. They dragged that party to where it is now.

While fairish, Trump governed as a standard neo-liberal. I’m not sure he would do differently in a second term.

If we end up at a point where left-wing social democrats who prioritize these sorts of economic programs yank the party to the left by, for example, elevating the next Bernie Sanders type over the establishment pick, I will be happy to join them. If Bernie Sanders had beaten Hillary Clinton to the nomination in 2016, I think I'd be more in line with your opinion about the party's approach to coalition forging, but he didn't.

I think the fact that Bernie Sanders even happened showed there is a desire for it. It shouldn’t have and there was no evidence of things moving there during the Bush and Obama years.

 

[King Static X]

The popular vote is a lock for Harris right? Even Hillary won that. Need a sure bet

Harris is 99% likely to win the popular vote.

 

[BK The Great]

 

[FAH1223]

Bernie saying what I believe

 

[Big Jo]

Anyone else feel like Trump is the only one running for president? Kamala feels like a made up thing, like she’s so non-existant at this point. its such a fukking travesty how they fumbled a sure thing after Biden dropped out. I saw an advisor say she skipped Rogan because of sheduling. Like is it so hard to fit it in and give her a chance to show her personality? The Trump interview is at 35 million views on YT alone

No one else feels like this. She’s literally campaigning in Philly with John Legend, Springsteen and Obama right now. Get your head out of your a$$