2024 U.S. Presidential Election Thread: Donald Trump wins & will return to the White House; GOP wins U.S. Senate & U.S. House

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Look, if you think the mainstream media has "only occasionally found the courage to criticize Trump" or pretended he's just "business as usual" we are operating in different realities and there isn't going to be much value in having this discussion. Granted, I do not watch or listen to right wing media like Fox. So if that's who you're talking about, that would account for our difference in opinion. But I'm talking about the NYT, CNN, MSNBC, Atlantic, the Big Three Networks, etc. If you think there has been a lack of opprobrium towards Trump coming out of these media organs, especially after January 6th...I don't know what you're watching.

I think you're perhaps confusing the capitalism-driven media corporations for the content being produced by their liberal workers. I don't disagree that the corporation loves the fukkery because it's good for business, but that doesn't mean they're sane-washing Trump. The journalist and content producers hate him because he represents a b*stardization of their worldview diminishes the prestige of their jobs, so they use their platform to cosplay Will McAvoy and make speeches about "this is not who we are". The corporation is indifferent to Trump, it only care about profit maximization through eyeballs. If anything, the push from the corporation has been to highlighting Trump's car crash fukkery because it keeps people watching. Neither entity has an incentive to ignore Trump or treat him passively or with kid gloves. This is a good thread about this very issue:



:dead: ok I see what's going on, have a nice one.
You're right that there are plenty of journalists who see Trump for what he is and call him out. But the structure they're in often undermines their efforts. Even if individual reporters and editors hate him, their work gets funneled through a filter more interested in "balance" than serving the public good. You can have a reporter saying, "This is dangerous" over the air, but if it's surrounded by panels treating Trump's authoritarianism as debate fodder or if it's followed by wall-to-wall rally coverage without context, the seriousness gets lost in all the noise.

You're completely missing the point. The media's capitalism-driven nature and need for "fukkery" doesn't just incidentally shape coverage of Trump, it's the very reason his rhetoric gets "sane-washed." When journalists and networks package his authoritarian tendencies as controversial statements or reduce his disregard for democratic norms to mere chaos, they aren't simply putting on a show for ratings; they're actively enabling his normalization. The corporation may love the eyeballs, but by sanitizing his words and framing his extremism as a sideshow, they give millions permission to see his actions as trivial or even acceptable. That's not just treating Trump with indifference; it's paving the way for him to be seen as just another political choice rather than an existential threat.

I agree with a lot of what you've been saying here and elsewhere, especially wrt foreign policy, but you have a blind spot for Trump, which leads you to downplay and diminish his threat and how he is treated. And that's ahrd to ignore.
 

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The Supreme Court just gave her more executive branch power than any President in history should she win. She should be pushing her advantage in this environment, not playing small ball. That's if she actually wants to be a consequential figure and not just a figurehead.
You know for a damn sure that the Scrotum are gonna flip that as soon as it pertains to Harris being president.
 

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The Supreme Court just gave her more executive branch power than any President in history should she win. She should be pushing her advantage in this environment, not playing small ball. That's if she actually wants to be a consequential figure and not just a figurehead.

no they didn't. where did you hear that from?
 

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no they didn't. where did you hear that from?


On July 1, 2024, the Court ruled in a 6–3 decision, that Trump had absolute immunity for acts he committed as president within his core constitutional purview, at least presumptive immunity for official acts within the outer perimeter of his official responsibility, and no immunity for unofficial acts.[3][4][5] The decision also provides the same immunity to all presidents, including incumbent President Joe Biden.[6] It declined to rule on the scope of immunity for some of Trump's acts alleged in his indictment, instead vacating the appellate decision and remanding the case to the district court for further proceedings.
 

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1/11
@iamalmostlegend
Van Lathan & Rachel Lindsay had one of the best takes summarizing who Trump is, what he represents, and why he’s untouchable.



https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1850608165773103104/vid/avc1/664x404/ADdgunxmS39oq_1d.mp4

2/11
@smc429
I appreciate this discussion. Van also got it right with Kanye, as well. More Van, less Klan.



3/11
@iamalmostlegend
💯



4/11
@JaredWeegmann
The Muslims too though? 😂 y’all are high. Come back to reality.



5/11
@iamalmostlegend
The reality where you got your student loans forgiven by the same administration you’re bashing on your timeline? “😂



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6/11
@tap3000
It’s white supremacy, not simply whiteness.



7/11
@carlsson808
Specifically, it’s white privilege with a HUGE dose of celebrity privilege



8/11
@MrsBundrige
Nailed it!



9/11
@JDCocchiarella
god damn I love @VanLathan



10/11
@ajbbbbbv
nice try, but this is a more accurate description.

[Quoted tweet]
Wow!! I cannot believe I’m saying this but I agree with Chris Cuomo 🔥

“If you’re sending someone into the jungle, do you really care if they’re a savage?!”


https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1850580446867775488/pu/vid/avc1/720x1280/Wjm8STJG09Mf82DS.mp4


11/11
@atlcopo
One of the worst takes of all time.




To post tweets in this format, more info here: https://www.thecoli.com/threads/tips-and-tricks-for-posting-the-coli-megathread.984734/post-52211196


edit:

transcript(whisper large v3 & llama-3.1 70B):
Van Lathan:
We've never seen anyone treated with the singular amount of white privilege that Donald Trump is being treated with. This is a masterclass in white privilege. Trump can't say enough to be racist. He can't commit enough crimes to be a criminal. He can't fail enough to be a failure. And he can't say enough stupid things to be stupid. He is so shielded and insulated by the idea and the concept of whiteness that he is un-fukking-touchable.

Rachel Lindsay:
Yeah.

Van Lathan:
The thought conjured around him matters more than any reality. Any reality. He is a Christian that doesn't know the Bible, that fukks porn stars, that grabs women by the p*ssy, is the least Christ-like, but the sheer promise of the whiteness that exists inside of Donald Trump is enough for everyone, white and Black people, Black people, a lot of them who worship whiteness and aspire to the level of whiteness that Trump has. It's enough for them to say, hey, he's still our guy, no matter what.

Rachel Lindsay:
It's the whiteness he guarantees to protect. That's what he represents, right? It's their being that he guarantees to protect. And that's true. That's something that they won't say, but that they're voting for.
 
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