2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races
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Wtf are you talking aboutYou said it was unfair to suggest that Bernie lost because he was not a better candidate.
You then turned around and said Hillary lost because she was not a better candidate.
I never said it was unfair. I gave very specific reasoning on why I felt Hillary won the primaries even though she wasn’t the most electable candidate in the general. It’s fine to disagree, but don’t be disingenuous.
You said, "that's not how things work." therefore the suggestion that Bernie lost because he wasn't a better candidate was unfair.Wtf are you talking about
I never said it was unfair. I gave very specific reasoning on why I felt Hillary won the primaries even though she wasn’t the most electable candidate in the general. It’s fine to disagree, but don’t be disingenuous.
You keep talking about the general, but that's not how things work. If you cannot win your parties nomination you cannot become president.
it doesn't matter how well you track with people outside of your party. It doesn't matter how well you you could do in the midwest.
Across 50 states you were unable to motivate your base to pick you to represent them.
Yall really in here on some 'if Houston would have beaten Golden State they would have beat the Cavs in the finals shyt. "
This isn't my argument, but I'm fine with it as long as we can also apply this standard to Hillary in the General.
the next guy
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this one has warren at number two, Morning consult/reuters have her at 3.
Iowa/NH should be interesting.
@Pressure I told you Kamala would take a massive hit.
How do Kamala/Cory win with one percent of the black vote?
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Biden can make West Virginia a problem. Virginia as well. Maybe New Hamshire and North Carolina. I feel Georgia could send a message too if Trump doesn't clean it up with the suburban mom set.
Alabama, Arkansas, Mississippi, Georgia, Wyoming, Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Alaska, Idaho, Nebraska, Tennessee, West Virginia are all going Trump for sure
You said, "that's not how things work." therefore the suggestion that Bernie lost because he wasn't a better candidate was unfair.
You keep talking about the general, but that's not how things work. If you cannot win your parties nomination you cannot become president.
it doesn't matter how well you track with people outside of your party. It doesn't matter how well you you could do in the midwest.
Across 50 states you were unable to motivate your base to pick you to represent them.
Yall really in here on some 'if Houston would have beaten Golden State they would have beat the Cavs in the finals shyt. "
You can’t be serious. No shyt you can’t become president without winning the primaries. Everybody knows that. Again you conveniently keep leaving out the specific arguments I made about superdelegates, the DNC, and closed primaries. I never made an unfair argument. My point is that you can win a primary, and not be the best candidate for the general election. It’s really that that hard to understand.
Hillary Clinton lost. She didn't get the job done.
You can’t be serious. No shyt you can’t become president without winning the primaries. Everybody knows that. Again you conveniently keep leaving out the specific arguments I made about superdelegates, the DNC, and closed primaries. I never made an unfair argument. My point is that you can win a primary, and not be the best candidate for the general election. It’s really that that hard to understand.
Someone loses every general election. Someone is always going to "not be the best candidate" for the general election.
I just find it ironic that the same group of people who've spent the last 4 years harping on a grassroots populist movement summarily rejects the will of the electorate.
If your argument is electability then you might as well put #BidenBoyz in your profile.
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i think the overall trend across multiple polls from today is that Harris is back to where she was at before the first debate, Mayo Pete is at mid single digits, Warren and Bernie gaining, Biden with a lead outside of the general margin of error.
the Quinnipiac poll seems like an outlier in certain areas. kamala's black support is higher in the morning consult and reuters data. 1% is like Mayo Pete level which I have a hard time believing. Booker is lower than Mayo Pete as well. Here's how the black vote total was 2 weeks with the Q poll to now: Biden: 53 --> 47 Bernie: 8 -- > 16 Warren: 2 --> 8 Harris: 7 ---> 1
Biden was leading the millenial vote last time in the Q poll but in others bernie has a very clear lead. Maybe I should stop letting these polls break my brain and just pay attention to early state polling since Tom Steyer wants to create fukkery
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Lol I agree. I think Tom will show out if he gets in.i think the overall trend across multiple polls from today is that Harris is back to where she was at before the first debate, Mayo Pete is at mid single digits, Warren and Bernie gaining, Biden with a lead outside of the general margin of error.
the Quinnipiac poll seems like an outlier in certain areas. kamala's black support is higher in the morning consult and reuters data. 1% is like Mayo Pete level which I have a hard time believing. Booker is lower than Mayo Pete as well. Here's how the black vote total was 2 weeks with the Q poll to now: Biden: 53 --> 47 Bernie: 8 -- > 16 Warren: 2 --> 8 Harris: 7 ---> 1
Biden was leading the millenial vote last time in the Q poll but in others bernie has a very clear lead. Maybe I should stop letting these polls break my brain and just pay attention to early state polling since Tom Steyer wants to create fukkery