R. Money
RMCMB
It's shameful you're trying to push this "Bernie says people of color too much!" angle when Joe Biden is a SEGREGATIONIST who gave the eulogy for STROM THURMOND.
2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races
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Can we please stop saying Biden will run into the same problems Hillary Clinton ran run in to? Biden's son will not be an issue for Trump because most people see Trump's playbook of trying to make his opponent appear corrupt in order to maintain power. The only people that it will effect is Trump supporters but they dont matter.
People wanted something to hate Hillary Clinton for. Whether it was pizzagate, emails, super predator, not being likeable, being a woman, being Bill Clinton's wife, etc.
The only people looking for a reason to hate Biden are super militants and Bernie supporters. But that's expected. Biden is a more sympathetic figure (losing his wife, daughter and son, use to have a shuddering problem), more likeable and more relateable than Clinton and that will mean something to voters. Alot of these Republicans who are going after Biden on Trump's behalf got respect for Biden. Perfect example is Lindsey Graham. Those same Republicans dont have that same respect for Hillary.
Biden will be fine in the general election. And he'll be fine in debates against Trump because Trump is an idiot that will twist himself into a pretzel because he doesn't know shyt.
The only real issue Biden faces in the general election is Bernie supporters. Do they whine, smear him on social media just like conservative media will and not vote? Or do they realize Trump must not be allowed to get a second term so they swallow they pride and vote.
People wanted something to hate Hillary Clinton for. Whether it was pizzagate, emails, super predator, not being likeable, being a woman, being Bill Clinton's wife, etc.
The only people looking for a reason to hate Biden are super militants and Bernie supporters. But that's expected. Biden is a more sympathetic figure (losing his wife, daughter and son, use to have a shuddering problem), more likeable and more relateable than Clinton and that will mean something to voters. Alot of these Republicans who are going after Biden on Trump's behalf got respect for Biden. Perfect example is Lindsey Graham. Those same Republicans dont have that same respect for Hillary.
Biden will be fine in the general election. And he'll be fine in debates against Trump because Trump is an idiot that will twist himself into a pretzel because he doesn't know shyt.
The only real issue Biden faces in the general election is Bernie supporters. Do they whine, smear him on social media just like conservative media will and not vote? Or do they realize Trump must not be allowed to get a second term so they swallow they pride and vote.
R. Money
RMCMB
You've been whining about and smearing Bernie supporters on social media for two years. Shut the fukk up, bytch. Biden hasn't earned my vote.
There really haven’t been a lot of studies about why Black turnout was down in 2016. The only one I seen was the New York Times Article about Milwaukee. The only thing that article point out is that the Black people in Milwaukee didn’t like Trump or Hillary.
but there is data on the impact of trade
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...ave-cost-clinton-the-election/?outputType=amp
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...ina-and-mexico-were-strongest/?outputType=amp
Why do you think HRC lost Michigan to Bernie in the primary? They had a debate right before the MI primary and Bernie crushed her on NATFA and TPP. Also during the general election Trump hit Hillary on Trade in the Rust Belt. That is one of the reasons he was able to get some of those white Obama voters to vote for him in those states.
Kenny West
Veteran
He's gained ground via voter suppression, incumbent advantage, changing demographics with his immigration policies, a marginally better economy, record black unemployment (yall are gonna ignore that buzzword until its too late), impeachment hurting the democrats credibility (his approval rating went up), got 4 years out of undermining other media outlets in favor of Fox News, and the DNC acting a fukking fool these past 12 months.again, those voters get to decide on whether biden's vote or trump's rule is/was worse to them...so yes, there is a benefit of distance from the agreement. there are voters who weren't even born when NAFTA popped off, and plenty who were kids - their life has always been post NAFTA. trump was in a stronger position on that in 2016 when he had no record or actions in office to compare it to
lastly, yall keep screaming trump is stronger in 2020 - where? how? what base has he grown? which swing states have grown redder since 2016 aside from maybe WI? this man barely won, now he's much harder to beat?
Dems trotting out Biden doesnt give them anything toward swing state independents. They dont need another just ok candidate, they need one that can win independents.
Like sanders
Saysumthinfunnymike
VOTE!!!
Libertarians are MAGA..
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
america has shown they don't care for truth. the conversation will be whatever either side wants it to be. furthermore, the conversation being about giving people healthcare on the left will be a conversation about more big government and wanting to drive out more industries on the right. her point is weak
So we are just going to ignore Biden’s early onset of dementia?
Plus his spotty record on some issues which will allow Trump to run to the left of him on criminal justice reform, Bankruptcy, NAFTA, Social Security, Medicare etc?
I honestly don’t know how you can believe that but I respect your opinion and honestly do hope you’re right.
I’d honestly rather he wins the nom and then bows out and gives it to someone else. I just don’t feel comfortable with the way he’s seemed to perform lately. Because if he really is sundowning then the country is essentially just gonna be ran by whatever corporate interests he appoints to his cabinet. Drain the swamp part 2 in 4 years
We’ll see how he looks this upcoming week. They can’t hide him much longer.
So we are just going to ignore Biden’s early onset of dementia?
Plus his spotty record on some issues which will allow Trump to run to the left of him on criminal justice reform, Bankruptcy, NAFTA, Social Security, Medicare etc?
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
that goes back to the point of trump was unknown and could make that point work for him in 2016, he and his policies and impact are known now - including no return of jobs and his dumbass trade war that fukked up the agriculture/farming and manufacturing industries. like i said, they'll have to decide how to weigh the decision made 26 yrs ago with the one made 3 years ago
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mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
He right, but Bernie should have done this months ago. His black woman surrogates been getting shyt on Twitter.
Love his policies, but Bernie isn’t a good campaigner. These are things he should have done for a while to counterpunch what the establishment attempted to do. Instead he just accepted and apologized.
R. Money
RMCMB
It's clearer and clearer that Biden will lose to Trump. And they'll blame Bernie supporters, despite that the facts will show we came out for Biden just as much as everybody else. Trump will expand the immigrant concentration camps and Warren will go dance on Ellen and chant HIRE. MORE. WOMEN. GUARDS.
So we are just going to ignore Biden’s early onset of dementia?
Plus his spotty record on some issues which will allow Trump to run to the left of him on criminal justice reform, Bankruptcy, NAFTA, Social Security, Medicare etc?
Hiding a candidate is honestly the worst thing they can do for the general. They might as well get everything out now before they get exposed in the general.