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You biden boys just really don't understand that no one is excited or motivated to vote for Biden. Bernie has a MOVEMENT and his base is energized. Good luck.
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when im worried about the democrat base NOT turning up to vote against trump, ill let you know

voting trump out is all the excitement the base needs :yeshrug: trump is gonna get more and more awful leading up to the election, pandering explicitly to his nascar/KKK base, and everyone will come around. i guarantee it
 
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I think the anyone but Trump base is bigger than Bernie's base.

I also believe Bernie's base is smaller than Trump's base.

If he wants to win he's going to have to forge a coalition in the primaries and not just pander to his base.
In this cycle all we know is Bernie’s base is people under 50 years old and pretty diverse.

The issue is and I think they made this calculation is that they can’t get more than 20-25% of a traditional Dem primary electorate. They can’t crack older voters and especially black voters over 55 years old.

So they are gambling on expanding the electorate and bringing in new people to caucus and vote.

It’s very risky but they have no choice.

If it doesn’t work then Bernie will probably only win NH of the early states or win none of them.
 

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(But please still canvas, gotv etc)
 

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In this cycle all we know is Bernie’s base is people under 50 years old and pretty diverse.

The issue is and I think they made this calculation is that they can’t get more than 20-25% of a traditional Dem primary electorate. They can’t crack older voters and especially black voters over 55 years old.

So they are gambling on expanding the electorate and bringing in new people to caucus and vote.

It’s very risky but they have no choice.

If it doesn’t work then Bernie will probably only win NH of the early states or win none of them.
Sadly Bernie and Warren are cannibalizing each other :francis: If Bernie doesn't win both Iowa and NH it's over, Biden will clean up the South and have too much momentum.
 

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When Bernie wins Iowa, we're going to see a shift in black voter support towards Bernie much in the way Obama was seen as a viable option by black voters after he won Iowa in 2008.
Tbf, Bill Clinton torpedoed them with some sortA racist shyt he said after the Iowa caucus. I can’t remember it tho.
 

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Bernie and Warren supporters aren’t the same people.
I've been trying to find that graph of supporter overlap/who they would go to if their candidate dropped out. I do remember Biden's supporters had Bernie as their second choice but I'm just assuming there's a big overlap with Bernie/Warren because of their policies :manny:
 

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I've been trying to find that graph of supporter overlap/who they would go to if their candidate dropped out. I do remember Biden's supporters had Bernie as their second choice but I'm just assuming there's a big overlap with Bernie/Warren because of their policies :manny:
In policies, but the supporters do not overlap at all.
 

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flip side of that he was a real piece of shot 40 years ago
fair enough :yeshrug: I don't particularly like biden, and i'm not in here arguing with anyone's criticisms. just sincerely believe he's the best shot at knocking off the orange fakkit

Bernie bros arent staying home for a biden campaign
 

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You biden boys just really don't understand that no one is excited or motivated to vote for Biden. Bernie has a MOVEMENT and his base is energized. Good luck.

He has a movement supported by lies. Bernies a politician just like everyone else. No one exposes his tricks, yet.

When Bernie wins Iowa, we're going to see a shift in black voter support towards Bernie much in the way Obama was seen as a viable option by black voters after he won Iowa in 2008.


Lol that’s Obama. Y’all are also really really overstating the shift that happened in South Carolina. They were practically tied in December. Obama took a big jump, yes

but Hilary was only beating him by 1% in the December polls.

Biden’s winning by 20%:mjlol:. statistically there’s no correlation there, just twitter pundits selling false dreams
 

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lol this isnt even that much. Ya'll out acting like 80% of young black ppl like bernie.


Biden is clearly crushing Bernie with black people. :mjlol:


I don't wanna see another bs post saying if your young and want to vote for biden, your out of touch.

Clearly this isnt the case, but hey you support and parrot what white progressive thats what they do. Chastise everyone else due their moral and intellectual superiority :scust:
 

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Because these are important issues he was wrong on. There is no statute of limitations on wrong decision making. Especially since these polices that Biden supported are still having a negative impact to this day.

Also we don’t have to go back to the 80s and 90s. He ended off the 90s by supporting the repeal of Glass-Steagall, which helped lead to the 08 financial crisis. He was plenty wrong in the 00s as well. He supported the War In Iraq, and that garbage bankruptcy bill. I’m sure he would of been wrong on many other issues if he wasn’t insulated as Vice President for 8 years. I just don’t understand the appeal some of you have for Joe Biden.

so is bernies soft spot for socialist dictators in the past, fair play too? :lupe:
 
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