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Trump is winning in 2020.
2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races
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Trump is winning in 2020.
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Been saying this. The "Black Church" being the conduit to getting in touch with the black community is old hat. But the establishment in the Democratic party either relies on "blavity" style blacks who only operate in the academic mind state to direct them to how to connect to the average black person, which is a minority representation, or they still rely on the old guard black politicians who still operate like its not 2018.
If there is a candidate who is unapologetic in applying an economic populist message not just towards the "working class whites" which seems to be the focus of people these days but also craft a specific message towards black working class and do it in a way they can navigate the elephant in the room that many "Working class whites" vote as part of their interest to harm blacks, you'll have a winner. Almost impossible task though.
Also, a candidate who is not shy to say they are ready to tackle the widespread lack of opportunity and poverty in "inner cities" for black folks, they will get a shyt ton of votes. People need to feel that when they go vote its for something that will actually affect them. Offer them something to root for.
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I'm not sure where the biden hype is coming from, is it cause he talked shyt to trump?
Dude's got more skeletons than hillary
Bernie tops progressive straw poll
Sen. Bernie Sanders led the field of prospective 2020 presidential candidates with 36 percent support. | Alex Brandon/AP Photo
2020 ELECTIONS
Bernie tops progressive straw poll
By DAVID SIDERS
12/18/2018 05:07 AM EST
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Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) tops the first 2020 straw poll by the progressive political action committee Democracy for America by a wide margin, followed by former Vice President Joe Biden and Rep. Beto O’Rourke (D-Texas).
Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), meanwhile, has seen her stock slide among the group‘s members, according to the poll released Tuesday and obtained first by POLITICO. The Massachusetts senator, whose success in similar polling four years ago propelled DFA to help organize a massive but ultimately unsuccessful effort to draft her into the 2016 presidential campaign — was running fourth.
The straw poll is more significant as a sign of organizational support than as a measure of public opinion. DFA boasts more than a million members, and after throwing its support from Warren to Sanders in 2016, it played an instrumental role in his unsuccessful presidential campaign.
But in the run-up to 2020 — even with Warren and Sanders both mulling presidential bids — the poll reflects uncertainty on the left about a progressive standard-bearer.
Leading the field was Sanders, with 36 percent support. He was followed by Biden at 15 percent and O’Rourke at 12 percent. Warren and Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), received 8 percent and 7 percent, respectively. No other potential candidate received more than 4 percent.
Following the 2016 election, Sanders galvanized support by running “one heck of a fantastic presidential campaign,” said DFA’s current executive director, Charles Chamberlain, who will become chairman of the group in January. He said the straw poll exposes that Warren and Harris “have some work to do” to build support among progressives. But he said the poll at this early stage for DFA members is also a “cross between name recognition, people they’re excited about and people they actually think are running.”
He said support for Biden likely draws in part from nostalgia for the Obama administration and that, among progressive Democrats, “I have a feeling the wheels come off the cart when he starts to campaign.” Biden, however, has consistently led early national polls of Democratic voters.
DFA said members cast more than 94,000 votes, ranking up to three potential candidates on each ballot. The poll ran Nov. 29 through Dec. 14, and results reflect only first-choice votes. The group polled 23 candidates, with write-ins accounting for nearly 5 percent of the vote, officials said.
“These results make clear that, while Bernie Sanders has a strong early lead, no single potential presidential candidate has full command of the Democratic Party’s progressive base heading into 2019,” the group’s incoming chief executive, Yvette Simpson, said in a prepared statement. “With more than 14 months before Iowa, we expect these results to change as grassroots progressives hear the messages the candidates are running on, see the campaigns executing on the ground, and watch them construct the broad-based coalition of the New American Majority of people of color and white progressive voters it will take to beat Donald Trump.”
The DFA said it will run additional polls before any endorsement, with the next survey likely to come in the first half of 2019. None of the top-tier contenders have said yet if they will run for president, though most have been laying groundwork for a potential campaign for months.
2020 ELECTIONS
Bernie tops progressive straw poll
By DAVID SIDERS
12/18/2018 05:07 AM EST
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Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) tops the first 2020 straw poll by the progressive political action committee Democracy for America by a wide margin, followed by former Vice President Joe Biden and Rep. Beto O’Rourke (D-Texas).
Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), meanwhile, has seen her stock slide among the group‘s members, according to the poll released Tuesday and obtained first by POLITICO. The Massachusetts senator, whose success in similar polling four years ago propelled DFA to help organize a massive but ultimately unsuccessful effort to draft her into the 2016 presidential campaign — was running fourth.
The straw poll is more significant as a sign of organizational support than as a measure of public opinion. DFA boasts more than a million members, and after throwing its support from Warren to Sanders in 2016, it played an instrumental role in his unsuccessful presidential campaign.
But in the run-up to 2020 — even with Warren and Sanders both mulling presidential bids — the poll reflects uncertainty on the left about a progressive standard-bearer.
Leading the field was Sanders, with 36 percent support. He was followed by Biden at 15 percent and O’Rourke at 12 percent. Warren and Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), received 8 percent and 7 percent, respectively. No other potential candidate received more than 4 percent.
Following the 2016 election, Sanders galvanized support by running “one heck of a fantastic presidential campaign,” said DFA’s current executive director, Charles Chamberlain, who will become chairman of the group in January. He said the straw poll exposes that Warren and Harris “have some work to do” to build support among progressives. But he said the poll at this early stage for DFA members is also a “cross between name recognition, people they’re excited about and people they actually think are running.”
He said support for Biden likely draws in part from nostalgia for the Obama administration and that, among progressive Democrats, “I have a feeling the wheels come off the cart when he starts to campaign.” Biden, however, has consistently led early national polls of Democratic voters.
DFA said members cast more than 94,000 votes, ranking up to three potential candidates on each ballot. The poll ran Nov. 29 through Dec. 14, and results reflect only first-choice votes. The group polled 23 candidates, with write-ins accounting for nearly 5 percent of the vote, officials said.
“These results make clear that, while Bernie Sanders has a strong early lead, no single potential presidential candidate has full command of the Democratic Party’s progressive base heading into 2019,” the group’s incoming chief executive, Yvette Simpson, said in a prepared statement. “With more than 14 months before Iowa, we expect these results to change as grassroots progressives hear the messages the candidates are running on, see the campaigns executing on the ground, and watch them construct the broad-based coalition of the New American Majority of people of color and white progressive voters it will take to beat Donald Trump.”
The DFA said it will run additional polls before any endorsement, with the next survey likely to come in the first half of 2019. None of the top-tier contenders have said yet if they will run for president, though most have been laying groundwork for a potential campaign for months.
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Second woman claims billionaire perv Jeffrey Epstein 'directed' her to have sex with Alan Dershowitz
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Alan Dershowitz (pictured) denies allegations of a second alleged trafficking victim of Jeffrey Epstein. (John Lamparski / Getty Images for Hulu)
A second alleged trafficking victim of Jeffrey Epstein says the billionaire pedophile "directed" her to have sex with Alan Dershowitz — a claim the prominent attorney adamantly denies.
The revelation regarding Sarah Ransome's allegations against the 80-year-old lawyer who represented the notorious sex offender is included in a public transcript available in Manhattan Federal Court.
Ransome has sued Epstein and his alleged madam, Ghislaine Maxwell, saying they trafficked her for sex from 2006 to 2007, while she was in her 20s.
During a Nov. 7 hearing on Ransome's case, Maxwell's attorney Laura Menninger mentioned the explosive allegation against Dershowitz.
"(Ransome) has alleged not only that my client ran a sex trafficking organization but she claims also that she was directed by my client and the Epstein defendants to have sex with third parties, including Alan Dershowitz, for example," Menninger said.
Ransome alleges in her suit that even as Epstein used an army of powerful attorneys — including Dershowitz — to fight a sex trafficking investigation in Florida, he continued "transporting young females" in New York.
Dershowitz furiously denied he'd ever met Ransome, who now lives in Barcelona, and said that "none of this happened." He slammed her as mentally unstable and said she'd bizarrely claimed to be in possession of a video of President Trump engaging in pedophilia and sex tapes of both Bill and Hillary Clinton.
Ransome is unwell and being manipulated by her high-powered attorney David Boies, Dershowitz said.
"The villain here is David Boies, who is exploiting a crazy woman in order to get revenge against me," Dershowitz said.
Dershowitz, a noted Harvard Law professor, said Boies is furious about bar charges Dershowitz filed against him. Details of the charges were unavailable and neither side would go into detail. Dershowitz added that he eagerly awaited an opportunity to sue Ransome for defamation.
"Alan Dershowitz's absurd attacks on me are consistent with his pattern of attacking every lawyer who has represented women who have accused him of sexual abuse," Boies said.
"This is simply a pattern where he thinks if he is loud enough and crazy enough it will distract attention from what he's done."
Virginia Roberts was the first alleged Epstein victim to claim that he directed her to have sex with Dershowitz. Dershowitz insists he also has never met Roberts, who now lives in Australia.
Roberts alleged that Maxwell recruited her for Epstein in 1998, when she was 15 years old and working a summer job at Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort. Roberts sued Maxwell for defamation, claiming the media heiress smeared her by denying the disturbing sex scheme.
They settled the case last year. Dershowitz is now seeking to have documents in the case, which he says would clear his name, unsealed.
The Epstein case has received new scrutiny following a Miami Heraldinvestigation that revived questions about the legal slap on the wrist the billionaire received from then-Southern Florida U.S. Attorney Alex Acosta.
In a new letter filed in Manhattan Federal Court, Dershowitz's attorney writes that the law professor has been the victim of "selective leaking" intended to smear his good name.
"Once again, Mr. Dershowitz – who has conscientiously and expeditiously pressed, through the judicial process, for disclosure of all documents in the case – has been the victim of one-sided and selective leaking of materials," attorney Andrew Celli wrote.
Dershowitz – who recently lamented he'd become persona non grata on Martha's Vineyard for his support of Trump – says that Roberts is the likely leaker.
She alleged in 2014 that Epstein "trafficked" her to Dershowitz and Prince Andrew for sex – a claim that has since been stricken from the record.
"The allegation is utterly false and defamatory: Mr. Dershowitz has never even met Ms. Roberts . . . records prove that Mr. Dershowitz could not have abused Ms. Roberts because he was not present in the places where she claims such abuse occurred," Celli wrote.
Prince Andrew also denied the allegation. Roberts settled her claims against Epstein in 2015.
The Herald's investigation highlighted the unusually cozy relationship between Epstein's legal team and Acosta, who gave the sex offender a generous plea deal. Epstein only served 13 months in a private wing of the Palm Beach County jail despite ample evidence he'd orchestrated an international sex trafficking operation, the Herald reported.
Jeffrey Epstein (second from left) in custody in Florida in 2008 (Uma Sanghvi / AP)
Epstein, a hedge fund manager with a mansion on the Upper East Side and a private Caribbean island, was once friends with the likes of Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey and Woody Allen, among other celebs and business titans.
"I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side," Trump said of Epstein in 2002.
The new scrutiny of the Epstein case prompted Dershowitz to tell Axios that the billionaire had once let him and his family stay at his Palm Beach home.
"He lent us his house once. And I was there, my grandchildren were there, my daughter was there, and we all got massages," Dershowitz told the site.
"It was therapeutic. I had a therapeutic massage with an old old Russian. . . . Believe me, if I had known that anything improper had ever taken place in that house, I never would have allowed my children, my grandchildren, my wife, my daughter-in-law, my son, to have spent time there."
Stephen Rex Brown is a reporter covering New York City courts for the New York Daily News
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I hope Alan gets fukked if this is true.
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so the focus is on dersh, when seemingly his potna has a stable of girls he pimps out 
they're both kosher boys, figured they were better than this
they're both kosher boys, figured they were better than this
it's all corporate media manufactured.I'm not sure where the biden hype is coming from, is it cause he talked shyt to trump?
Dude's got more skeletons than hillary
Same with Kamala Harris
Same with Cory Booker
Marianne Williamson is running?
he also said he was cool with the segregationists and they could all go out to dinner afterwards. fukk this dude and fukk all the centrists these corporates dems are pushing and all the morons who fall for it