2016 Warriors attempted a league leadin 31.6 3s a game..... That would rank dead last this season in 3 point attempts

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Nobody likes all the 3's, not even Celtics or Nuggets fans. You act like we didnt just win a title less than 5 years ago.

Talking about we trash but u out here taking 18 month sabbaticals whenever the Dubs aren't in a spot for u to pop shyt. Weirdo.

Nah, we like the threes. We've been into threes ever since Jim O'Brien took over in 2002.
 

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Spacing. You have to shoot open shots

Only solution is to eliminate corner 3s. Artificially deflating 3PA

Also, not enough big men shooting 70% or better from the FT line to justify post/paint touches

The foreign consumer enjoys this version of the NBA. The American consumer wants their traditional Power Forwards back

STFU

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The Hornets need to find other ways to score since they don’t have the personnel to take all of those 3s and gameplan to get Melo Ball and Miller to cut their 3s in half and get more easy buckets at the rim. If Spolestra or Ty Lue were coaching the Hornets Melo Ball and Miller wouldn’t be taking that many 3 pt shots.
Herro takes 10 threes a game, why is Spo allowing him to take that many 3s?

This really tells me you don't really watch Hornets games, you're just throwing shyt at the wall of what they should be doing because you don't like that type of shot. If Melo and Miller were to cut their 3s in half, the Hornets would have fewer easy scoring opportunities at the rim. Their personnel dictates the way they play, and given that they don't have a legit big man* or a legit wing, it't not so easy for them to get easy buckets in the paint.

Further to that point, the Hornets are still developing and finding their identity as a team, so they're not going to have their shot diet right until they do.

Can you give me a brief explanation as to how the Hornets should specifically get more easy buckets at the rim, with their personnel in mind.
 

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get rid of the corner 3
or only count 3 pointers as 2 after 30 attempts :yeshrug:
 

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The solution would be to move the line back about 3 feet, which would take about 5 years for some players to catch up which in turn would make that shot inefficient. Like there's only about three players per team that can shoot from that deep. Also somebody made a great point about big men free throw shooting. If you can't shoot free throws we are not running our offense through the post.
 

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Herro takes 10 threes a game, why is Spo allowing him to take that many 3s?

This really tells me you don't really watch Hornets games, you're just throwing shyt at the wall of what they should be doing because you don't like that type of shot. If Melo and Miller were to cut their 3s in half, the Hornets would have fewer easy scoring opportunities at the rim. Their personnel dictates the way they play, and given that they don't have a legit big man* or a legit wing, it't not so easy for them to get easy buckets in the paint.

Further to that point, the Hornets are still developing and finding their identity as a team, so they're not going to have their shot diet right until they do.

Can you give me a brief explanation as to how the Hornets should specifically get more easy buckets at the rim, with their personnel in mind.

Herro is a better shooter than LaMelo and Brandon Miller. And given that the Hornets are young and LaMelo excels in transition, they could gameplan more around his strengths in that regard.
 
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Herro is a better shooter than LaMelo and Brandon Miller.
But if LaMelo and Miller are the best shooters on the Hornets, why wouldn't Spo get them to shoot high volume 3s?
And given that the Hornets are young and LaMelo excels in transition, they could gameplan more around his strengths in that regard.
But they don't have the personnel to really be a great transition team (certainly not without Bridges).

Running more in transition isn't going to get them more easy scoring opportunites at the rim, in a vacuum, especially with all the injuries they've had lately. And getting them to run in transition more isn't going to lower LaMelo's and Miller's respective 3-pt attempts either. In fact, because they're generating more possessions by speeding up the game, that might even take more.

The truth of the matter is, until the Hornets get a legit big man who dominates in the paint and/or a wing who can do the same, they're not going to notably improve in that area of the game. They're going to be limited because of their personnel, and the best way to combat that limitation is stretching out defenses to make it easier to get to the rim, and the best way to do that is to shoot 3s.
 

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The Hornets need to find other ways to score since they don’t have the personnel to take all of those 3s and gameplan to get Melo Ball and Miller to cut their 3s in half and get more easy buckets at the rim. If Spolestra or Ty Lue were coaching the Hornets Melo Ball and Miller wouldn’t be taking that many 3 pt shots.
two things apparently can be true.

1. Their offense is awful, which means the shot selection is terrible.

2. they rank dead last in shots inside the 3 point line and last in FT's made and attempted, so to you, you'd say less threes and more shots at the basket. What Charlotte will do is siphon the shots they take inside the 3 point line and try to redirect those to the basket.
 

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He made good points. Most teams don’t have the shooters to justify the number of 3 point attempts they take.
2010: 18.6 3PA, 35.5% shooting
2025: 37.5 3PA, 35.9% shooting

Seems like it's working to me :yeshrug:

That's that lowlight bias I keep bringing up - y'all letting mediocre-to-bad teams speak for the entire style today when it's just bad teams playing bad basketball as has been the case every season in league history.
 

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The issue is the zone. It allows you to pack the paint to deter drives/postups AND allows weaker defenders to live. Only way to open the floor up for other shyt is too shoot. Players that cant shoot are marginalized. 3s used to be a luxury and now they are a necessity.

Other part of is is basic math. If I shoot 38 3s (league average) and make 36% (same) that is 14 3s and 42 points. If you shoot 22 (league average 10 years ago) and make 36% that is 8 3s and 24 pts. So now you are 18 pts in the hole and your options for scoring in other ways are limited because shooting is the only way to open those avenues and I dont even have to respond to the threat as much with you. Meanwhile we probably outscored you in the paint too based of easier looks created by you responding to our shooting.

Its a competition. You do what you gotta do to win :manny:.
 

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The issue is the zone. It allows you to pack the paint to deter drives/postups AND allows weaker defenders to live. Only way to open the floor up for other shyt is too shoot. Players that cant shoot are marginalized. 3s used to be a luxury and now they are a necessity.

Other part of is is basic math. If I shoot 38 3s (league average) and make 36% (same) that is 14 3s and 42 points. If you shoot 22 (league average 10 years ago) and make 36% that is 8 3s and 24 pts. So now you are 18 pts in the hole and your options for scoring in other ways are limited because shooting is the only way to open those avenues and I dont even have to respond to the threat as much with you. Meanwhile we probably outscored you in the paint too based of easier looks created by you responding to our shooting.

Its a competition. You do what you gotta do to win :manny:.
Right...people keep coming up with all these asinine gimmicky solutions to the 3-point excess like pushing the line back, eliminating the corner, only making the 3 count in certain times of the quarter (:dahell::dahell::dahell::dahell::dahell:) etc when the real solution is going back to the 80s/90s rules.

Getting rid of hand checking didn't help the wings like Kobe and LeBron much - but it helped the point guards a LOT. The decrease of physicality made it easier for the little guys to drive. When the NBA first implemented the zone in 02, they still had hand checking...and the result was offenses getitng even worse. But once point guards got freed up it gradually built to what we have now as they've created so many ways to beat zones.

Now obviously, with old school rules in the modern game guys are still gonna be taking way more 3's than they were back then but there would be more of the balance that people want.
 
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